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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:40 PM Jan 2018

The right is claiming the reporter who wrote the book about Trump is a closet case

Source: LGBTQ Nation




By Bil Browning · Friday, January 5, 2018


Gavin McInnes pointing out Michael Wolff's pocket square as proof the author is a "closeted homosexual." screenshot

As Michael Wolff’s blockbuster exposé, Fire and Fury, has taken the political world by storm with breathtaking allegations from inside the Trump White House, the right wing has furiously tried to debunk it. (FOX News, however, spent their air time focused on Hillary Clinton instead of covering the political controversy.) But white supremacist and alt-right darling Gavin McInnes has a novel theory why the book should be discredited. He says Wolff has “gay face” and since he wore a pocket square during a recent interview, well, obviously Wolff is a closet case.

“Have you ever seen Michael Wolff? Now, this isn’t a fact, this is just my theory, but he has a gay face. And there’s nothing wrong with being gay, obviously. Chadwick Moore is a wonderful gay, so is Milo Yiannopoulos, but [Wolff] appears to be a closeted gay, and my experience with them is that they tend to be sociopaths. They have a lot of bottled-up sexual rage and they want revenge on the world. I don’t trust these stories.”

Yiannopoulos, an alt-right provocateur, and Moore, who “came out” as conservative after writing a puff piece about Yiannopoulos for Out Magazine, have become the darlings of the right lately. With Yiannopoulos’ star quickly descending, Moore has become the go-to-gay for right wing pundits like Tucker Carlson for his willingness to bash liberals, gay people, and social issues important to the community.

“Does that face look a little gay to you?” McInnes asks, pointing to a picture of Wolff in a Facebook video highlighted by Right Wing Watch. “I mean, it’s the lips. That kind of a pocket square, I wear it sometimes. I have slept with hundreds of women. So you have to either be a pimp or a pussy. Seriously, though. Look at his demeanor. Am I crazy? Does that look like a closeted gay man to you? Only black guys and me can get away with that kind of color scheme.”



Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/01/right-claiming-reporter-wrote-book-trump-closet-case

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The right is claiming the reporter who wrote the book about Trump is a closet case (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
Even if They're Right, What Difference Does it Make? It Doesn't Change the Facts About Trump & Co. dlk Jan 2018 #1
Fox would not waste their time with this lie and attack if they didnt have a track Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #27
Right! Who cares? Get out of peoples' bedrooms. brush Jan 2018 #41
{Checking my pocket} That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #2
Is that a lavender tie he's also wearing? Say no more. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #15
I'm now getting ads for Gavin McInnes at DU. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #21
So What? Me. Jan 2018 #3
Another conservative with the asshole gene. n/t SpankMe Jan 2018 #4
...or vice-versa. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #9
Wow...so now Im gay because I like pocket squares Docreed2003 Jan 2018 #5
Desperation is not a beautiful thing..... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2018 #6
It is the Right's form of denial bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #7
please tell me this is satire. cab67 Jan 2018 #8
"Sociopath? Bottled-up sexual rage? Revenge on the world?" yallerdawg Jan 2018 #10
They have nothing, so gay bashing is logical, right? truthisfreedom Jan 2018 #11
so what? mehrrh Jan 2018 #12
Hey Gavin your Gaydar is pretty good. safeinOhio Jan 2018 #13
A little TOO good, if you ask me. mac56 Jan 2018 #30
"only black guys"? McInnes is racist hiding behind attempted "jokes". Oh, wait, he's an out racist. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #14
Wow mindfulNJ Jan 2018 #16
No, they're not. sarge43 Jan 2018 #31
Excellent saying. klook Jan 2018 #53
You're welcome. I've used it many times. It is useful. n/t sarge43 Jan 2018 #56
Ah yes, a little bit of cloth as a suit accessory.. MurderMittenLiberal Jan 2018 #17
Makes perfect sense thbobby Jan 2018 #18
So what, eh? Jeff Sessions is a Keebler ELF !!! vkkv Jan 2018 #19
and Trump grabs pussies...whats your point rethugs? SummerSnow Jan 2018 #20
Honestly, N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2018 #22
Has McInnes always been this ridiculous? xor Jan 2018 #23
Closeted Gays? Botany Jan 2018 #24
Why would it matter what his sexual preferences are? Vinca Jan 2018 #25
Straight out of the 50's underpants Jan 2018 #26
no kidding - once more I hear team Trumpydoo playing the oldies rurallib Jan 2018 #37
And? So? Who knows? Who cares? WhiteTara Jan 2018 #28
McInnes: "I have slept with hundreds of women." area51 Jan 2018 #29
To quote Jerry Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with it". Just an anecdote... George II Jan 2018 #32
My first thought! SCVDem Jan 2018 #43
Seriously? PatSeg Jan 2018 #33
They must be getting desperate to smear Wolff ... Jarqui Jan 2018 #34
Methinks he protests too much. Hundreds of women? McInnes is clearly a closet case pnwmom Jan 2018 #35
THAT is the best they've GOT!?!?!?!? Maeve Jan 2018 #36
My thoughts exactly! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #57
Gay face? wtf hibbing Jan 2018 #38
Really? Gay face? fifthoffive Jan 2018 #39
So did I! Locrian Jan 2018 #42
So did I RVN VET71 Jan 2018 #50
Gavin McInness' beard looks "gay" to me FakeNoose Jan 2018 #40
Pathtetic POS's Progressive dog Jan 2018 #44
"he has a gay face" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #45
Does anybody even give a shit anymore? CanonRay Jan 2018 #46
...which raises the question: what White House idiot allowed him in....continually? brooklynite Jan 2018 #47
So what? greatauntoftriplets Jan 2018 #48
that was exactly my first thought: orleans Jan 2018 #65
So what? If he's gay, he's gay. These people, SMDH. dewsgirl Jan 2018 #49
Major Mustache says what? Raster Jan 2018 #51
"and my experience with them" ... O-O-O-O-O-O-K! keithbvadu2 Jan 2018 #52
lol the pointer has many pens in his pocket! Whats that say about him?? LoL! juxtaposed Jan 2018 #54
Hmmm, kinda reminds me of somebody else klook Jan 2018 #60
bingo! juxtaposed Jan 2018 #61
Consider the source. The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #55
Projecting? IronLionZion Jan 2018 #58
What a Senseless Distraction! DoctorJoJo Jan 2018 #59
WHO THE EFF CARES IF HE IS GAY? secondwind Jan 2018 #62
I know. Some of the were here making those claims last night. GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #63
Similar smear tactic was used when "Fortunate Son" was released -- biography of Dubya written by diva77 Jan 2018 #64

dlk

(11,561 posts)
1. Even if They're Right, What Difference Does it Make? It Doesn't Change the Facts About Trump & Co.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jan 2018

One more silly distraction.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
27. Fox would not waste their time with this lie and attack if they didnt have a track
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jan 2018

record with Americans knowing that they can cloud someone's credibility with this McCarthy stuff.

Americans have proven over and over they are more than willing to discount someone if they are a POC, gay, Muslim, etc.

So this attack on Wolff is no different than their attack on Mueller.

THEY are on the WRONG side of EVERYTHING and they know it, they know they have to do this. They HAVE to.

Personally, I am SICK and fucking TIRED of living with people who would actually discount someone if they were gay, or a POC etc.

SICK i tell you (but I best keep that to myself, the deplorables would love to cure me of my illness)

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
2. {Checking my pocket} That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

While we're at it, what's with the pocket protector and all the pens?

And a short-sleeve dress shirt? Ewwwwwww.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
21. I'm now getting ads for Gavin McInnes at DU.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jan 2018

Oh, it's green now, not lavender. You should update your email.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
5. Wow...so now Im gay because I like pocket squares
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jan 2018

The right never ceases to amaze me in the way their minds and rationale never seem to progress beyond a junior high bullies’ personality.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
6. Desperation is not a beautiful thing.....
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jan 2018


in defending Donald Trump, when it is as obvious as the nose on one's face that this book tells the truth about the Trump White House.

Has anyone noticed that not one source such as Sam Nunberg, Sean Spicer, Steve Bannon, Anne Coulter, and others have NOT refuted what they said? The Right can slam the author of this book all they want. For all they are doing is selling more books.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
7. It is the Right's form of denial
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jan 2018

It makes them feel comfortable within their own minds and skewed world view

but has no basis in reality

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. "Sociopath? Bottled-up sexual rage? Revenge on the world?"
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

If I was the current temporary occupant of the White House, I'd be telling them to ratchet it down a bit.

mehrrh

(233 posts)
12. so what?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:51 PM
Jan 2018

They make me laugh. What difference does it make if Wolff is homosexual or not?
It's entirely irrelevant, but it certainly speaks to the RWNJ's and their self-righteous views and haughty assessments of other people.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
31. No, they're not.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

Because it's their 'truth', those creatures really believe that calling someone gay is a damning indictment and destroys his credibility. It was thirty or more years ago, but for those of us who live in the present reality, it's "so what?".

As the Bedouin say, "Let the dogs bark; the caravan moves on."

klook

(12,154 posts)
53. Excellent saying.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jan 2018

"Let the dogs bark; the caravan moves on."

Useful in many arenas of life. Thank you.

17. Ah yes, a little bit of cloth as a suit accessory..
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jan 2018

Clearly the only explanation is that he enjoys fucking other men...

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
18. Makes perfect sense
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jan 2018

When I was in 5th grade if someone said something that another child disliked, rumors of the first child's orientation were likely to follow.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
22. Honestly,
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jan 2018

Zoom in on the pic, take away the beard, his face has the same qualities. So only he and black guys can get away with the color scheme.
Face shape, color scheme....methinks he speaks with a little experience.

xor

(1,204 posts)
23. Has McInnes always been this ridiculous?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jan 2018

For some reason there was a time where I knew he was pretty far-right, but I didn't think he was this idiotic. That may have just been to my limited exposure to him, though.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
24. Closeted Gays?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jan 2018

I know of 3 very prominent republicans who are closet cases
and my problem w/them is that they sell hate and Jesus a little
too much.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
25. Why would it matter what his sexual preferences are?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:07 PM
Jan 2018

He wasn't in the West Wing hoping to "do" Don.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
37. no kidding - once more I hear team Trumpydoo playing the oldies
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jan 2018

"some of my best friends ......."
"he's - you know ---"

So many insults that I haven't heard since I was about 11 or so.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. To quote Jerry Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with it". Just an anecdote...
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

...from the Reagan administration. For years they were anti-gay and along with that anti-AIDS research. Turns out a higher up in the administration turned out to be gay and contracted AIDS. I wish I could remember who it was, but he was in Reagan's "inner circle".

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
33. Seriously?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

Gee, I'm sure that was the first thing on everyone's mind when Wolff's book came out.

Meanwhile, I guess Joe Biden is gay as well, because he wears pocket squares. My ex husband did too, but he's kicked the habit, so I guess he is straight now.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
35. Methinks he protests too much. Hundreds of women? McInnes is clearly a closet case
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jan 2018

with a desperate need to prove his masculinity.

Sad.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
57. My thoughts exactly!
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:45 PM
Jan 2018

I wish someone could somehow get GOP reps to wear pocket squares on camera and set them up. It would be great if the comedian "Billy On The Street" did it. I would love him to stand in the halls of Congress and shove rainbow squares into their breast pockets and attempt to "catch them" in an interview. Could you picture McConnell or Graham getting targeted. Billy is so fast they wouldn't know what was going on and probably don't know who he is.

fifthoffive

(382 posts)
39. Really? Gay face?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jan 2018

When I looked at the photos, I swear I thought the guy on the right was Wolff with a beard!

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
50. So did I
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

But I think this idiots many, many "gay tells" should not be broadcast or pointed out because it might hurt his standing with the Nazis and KKK'ers, many of whom are not technically gay, and that would be a terrible, terrible thing.

I mean, really, let the bearded gay dude escape the ostracism he would be sure to suffer, the ugly whispers behind his back, the sudden disinvites to Alt-right affairs, right.

Do not put it out there that the guy who, in a rather bitchy way, suggested publicly that an author is gay (because of his pocket square?), that that guy is himself a raging queen.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
40. Gavin McInness' beard looks "gay" to me
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jan 2018

Yup, he's got a gay beard, and it's covering up a gay face. Wondering about those gay glasses too.


Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
44. Pathtetic POS's
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jan 2018

His face looks a "little gay" (whatever that means), so he must be making stuff up about Trump. That's the way the alt-right's mind works. I left mind as a singular because I don't believe the alt-right has even that much brain power in total.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
51. Major Mustache says what?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:26 PM
Jan 2018

Oh please. McInnes is a fake and a fraud and a caricature of himself and is searching for some type of long-term relevance, 'cause the oddfather of "Proud Boys" really ain't much to write home about.

"What shall I call you, Sir?"

"You may call me Major Mustache, my proud boy."

"And what will you call me?"

"Well, once your check clears, I shall call you "meal ticket."

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
59. What a Senseless Distraction!
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jan 2018

Just for the record, Wolff was long married, but now is in divorce proceedings, and is now dating a female writer 27 years his junior:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/30/michael-wolff-divorce-vic_n_180633.html

For those on the right casting Gaydar stones, check out Lindsey Graham's dating history!

diva77

(7,640 posts)
64. Similar smear tactic was used when "Fortunate Son" was released -- biography of Dubya written by
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:38 AM
Jan 2018

James Hatfield who apparently committed suicide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hatfield


Fortunate Son and controversy

Hatfield was the author of Fortunate Son, a book published in 1999 during the George W. Bush presidential campaign, 2000 that made serious allegations about George W. Bush. Published by the highly regarded St. Martin's Press, the book was revealed as fraudulent and recalled by the publisher within days of publication.[1][2]

Soon after the book's release, The Dallas Morning News reported that Hatfield was a paroled felon who had been convicted in 1988 of paying a hit man $5,000 to murder his former boss with a car bomb. It was also revealed that Hatfield pleaded guilty to embezzlement in 1992. Hatfield at first denied the allegations when his publisher confronted him, but he eventually owned up to his criminal history.

This was the second time that a book of Hatfield's had been challenged. In 1985 he had written an unofficial James Bond novel, The Killing Zone,[2] which – although purporting to be officially sanctioned by Glidrose, Bond's literary copyright holder – was in fact a vanity novel.[3][not in citation given]

Due to the revelations of Hatfield's criminal past and the damage to his credibility, in October 1999, Hatfield's publisher, St. Martin's Press, recalled 70,000 copies of Fortunate Son and left an additional 20,000 books in storage. Even so, the book had already reached the New York Times bestseller list. Hatfield responded that, before the Bush campaign brought pressure to bear, St. Martin's had publicly stated that the book had been "carefully fact-checked and scrutinized by lawyers."[4]

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