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Judi Lynn

(160,526 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 01:43 AM Jan 2018

Suit: Gay couple gets 'hateful' flyers, not wedding programs

Source: Associated Press

Alanna Durkin Richer, Associated Press
 Updated 8:53 pm, Wednesday, January 17, 2018

BOSTON (AP) — Stephen Heasley and Andrew Borg were excited to see the wedding programs they ordered for their big day. But when the package arrived, the gay couple was horrified to instead find religious pamphlets with messages about temptation and sin, according to a federal lawsuit against printing company Vistaprint.

The lawsuit, which was filed Tuesday in Massachusetts, accuses Vistaprint of attacking the couple because they're gay by replacing their wedding program order with the "hateful, discriminatory" pamphlets.

"Our goal is to hold Vistaprint accountable for the harm they have caused, to give a voice to others who may have been similarly victimized, to help prevent this from happening to someone else and to send a message that there will be consequences for acts of hate perpetrated against others," the couple, who got married in Pennsylvania in September, said in a statement.

Vistaprint's CEO and founder said in a letter to customers on Wednesday that it is "incredibly saddened" by the incident and has launched an investigation to determine how and why the couple received the materials. The Dutch company, which has a regional headquarters in Massachusetts, says it has reached out to the couple, who lives in Australia, and hopes to use the incident as an "opportunity to shine light on important LGBTQ issues."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Suit-Gay-couple-gets-hateful-flyers-not-12504446.php

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Suit: Gay couple gets 'hateful' flyers, not wedding programs (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2018 OP
I find it suspicious that anti gay material was Justice Jan 2018 #1
No. It seems it was intentional. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #2
Whoever did that needs to be fired asap. Horrible. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #3
+++agree iluvtennis Jan 2018 #4
Vistaprint is an offshore company TwistOneUp Jan 2018 #5
The article mentions that the company is DUTCH... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #6
Gee, that sounds like Mel Gibsons church dhol82 Jan 2018 #7
VistaPrint is Dutch. BV is for Besloten Vennootschap whopis01 Jan 2018 #11
Where did you get Canada? left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #13
I was talking about their printing facilities. whopis01 Jan 2018 #16
Thank you for explaining that! n/t TwistOneUp Jan 2018 #15
Vistaprint?Better sort this out immediately or no more banners/posters/tee/cards orders from us Sunlei Jan 2018 #8
Vistaprint is a middle man, not a printer quakerboy Jan 2018 #9
They need to shine a bright light on the perpetrators of intolerance and hatred so that they may Raven123 Jan 2018 #10
Accident? I don't buy it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #12
It's going to be a subcontractor MosheFeingold Jan 2018 #14

Justice

(7,186 posts)
1. I find it suspicious that anti gay material was
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 02:04 AM
Jan 2018

Accidentally sent to this particular couple. Were the wedding materials sent to a hate group?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. Whoever did that needs to be fired asap. Horrible.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 02:08 AM
Jan 2018

Can you imagine opening up your wedding programs box only to find hate materials? Horrible. Who would do such a thing?

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
5. Vistaprint is an offshore company
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:38 AM
Jan 2018

When you get your credit card statement you'll see Vistaprint BV or some such. It's a tax dodge located in one of those "no gays" Carribean islands that has a literal belief in the bible. And the reason God just beat the snot out of their island is *of course* the fault of the gay couple. <groan>

I say get the word out and no more bidniss to those hateful bastids until heads roll for this. Plenty of good printers in every country; no need to go to a tax dodge full of haters. Almost as bad as shopping at Wal-Mart.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. The article mentions that the company is DUTCH...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 05:16 AM
Jan 2018

...and upper management appears to be taking the couple's side.

Since the couple is from Australia, I'm wondering if they, or the Vistaprint branch they dealt with, is based in Sydney. The Diocese of Sydney (Anglican), is extremely conservative and fundamentalist, to the extent of sending "missionaries" to other Anglican dioceses in Australia (a serious breach of protocol) and even to here in the U.S.A., attempting to start a "true Church" (i.e. no gays and no women in leadership positions) in those hotbeds of apostate liberal Anglicanism. It would surprise me not a bit for someone of that inclination, working at the local Vistaprint branch, to try to "send a message" to Teh Gayz.

whopis01

(3,511 posts)
11. VistaPrint is Dutch. BV is for Besloten Vennootschap
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:57 AM
Jan 2018

which is essentially like LLC in the US.

All of their North American orders are printed in Canada. They do have a Caribbean call center.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. Where did you get Canada?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jan 2018

"The Dutch company,
which has a regional headquarters in Massachusetts,
says it has reached out to the couple, who lives in Australia"

whopis01

(3,511 posts)
16. I was talking about their printing facilities.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jan 2018

Their North American manufacturing facility is located in Windsor, Ontario. That is most likely the location where an order placed from Pennsylvania (where the couple was married) would have been printed.

The Massachusetts location is their North American business headquarters. It is not one of their printing facilities.

They also have business headquarters and manufacturing facilities in Australia - but since the couple filed suit at their North American headquarters, I am assuming that their order was placed for delivery in the US, not Australia.


https://www.vistaprint.com/about/offices.aspx


Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. Vistaprint?Better sort this out immediately or no more banners/posters/tee/cards orders from us
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 06:16 AM
Jan 2018

The "customer letter" isn't enough, the order had better be sorted out and those customers compensated with lifetime discount services.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
9. Vistaprint is a middle man, not a printer
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 06:22 AM
Jan 2018

They seem to farm their orders out to smaller print shops. Ive known folks who worked at several print shops in my area who said they do Vista Print work during any downtime between better paying work.

Maybe they have their own facilities as well, but I'd bet they passed this order on to a contractor/sorry excuse for a human who took it on themselves to do this. If so.. I'd expect them to end their contract with that supplier.

Although.. part of me hopes that this means some wacky Fundy cult group got a bunch of gay marriage wedding programs, and was thus unable to hand out the hateful pamphlets at some limited time event. Id still expect a contract to be terminated, but I'd like to see at least that much good come out of this.

Raven123

(4,830 posts)
10. They need to shine a bright light on the perpetrators of intolerance and hatred so that they may
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 07:04 AM
Jan 2018

experience the consequences of their cowardly actions.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
14. It's going to be a subcontractor
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:47 AM
Jan 2018

Vistaprint takes in orders from around the world, then sends them for fulfillment at some local printer. It's the same model as "FTD Florists" and the like.

This is going to be their near neighbor, not corporate.

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