Senate Dems take deal, clearing way to end shutdown

[demmiblue]

Source: The Hill

Senate Democrats say they are accepting a deal with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) for an immigration vote, clearing the way for passage of a bill to reopen the federal government.

McConnell early Monday promised to take up an immigration bill that would protect an estimated 800,000 Dreamers from deportation, under an open amendment process, if Democrats would agree to end the government shutdown.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y) said that pledge was enough for his caucus to accept a three-week government funding bill, which is now set to pass at noon.

"After several discussions, offers, and counteroffers, the Republican leader and I have come to an arrangement. We will vote today to reopen the government to continue negotiating a global agreement," Schumer said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/370107-dems-take-deal-clearing-way-to-end-shutdown

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Hmmm

I don't trust McConnell. He's not a person of integrity or high value.

[MosheFeingold]

7. You are correct

But he's an equal opportunity snake. Just dishonest.

This was public and apparently in writing.

[brush]

20. Anyone know how long this new CR will last? If it's for only 2 or 3 weeks and McConnell breaks...

his promise we could hold out again and possibly be in an even stronger position.

[pandr32]

28. Agreed, but we will know by three weeks from now

Hopefully, the wall offer is out the window.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Two words

Merrick Garland

[TexasTowelie]

3. None of the Democratic senators should cast their votes

until after the overwhelming majority of Republicans vote.

[zipplewrath]

4. What they gave up

I'm guessing what they gave up is that the Senate can pass something, but the dems will be powerless to force the issue in the House or with Trump. This was their chance to say "No DACA, No Budget". Of course, we can rinse and repeat this again in February when they have to come up with something again.

[atreides1]

8. February won't change anything!

By then McTurtle will be ready to use the "nuclear option", to pass a budget that is supported by the Republicans without any immigration reform!!!

[samnsara]

6. i dont trust mc Connell but I trust Schumer...

....hes a polished political heavy weight. He will make sure hellfire reigns upon the GOP if McConnell welches.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. The deeper this dance continues into 2018

the more benefit for Democrats in November.

Any heat is off Democrats now from the Right, we're cooperating, negotiating, in the long tradition of the Senate,
give and take.

The best the Right can do with this is fume about the popular DACA legislation. It plays to their base. Period.

[ginnyinWI]

9. And I suppose the Orange One will take all the credit. n/t

[Mr.Bill]

10. Any deal that involves Trump, McConnell or Ryan

has about a 1% chance of happening.

Here's the art of the deal, Chuck. Don't make any deals with these people.

[Botany]

11. Sure McConnell will negotiate in good faith in the future. 2 words Merrick Garland

2 words Merrick Garland.

[yallerdawg]

12. What was the point?

How about a big "Fuck you, asshole!" for the current occupant of the White House!

"How was that big party at Mar-a-Lago? Did they send you pictures?"

[forgotmylogin]

29. Perhaps we could shut down the government every weekend

to keep 45 in DC and save money on his trips.

If they won't go for an invisible fence and shock collar...

[Justice]

14. I think it is too soon to judge. Schumer and Dems are not Flake or Collins

I agree with Rob Reiner.


"Rob Reiner
@robreiner

9m9 minutes ago

Now that it looks like our government will limp along for a few more weeks, DACA moves to the top of the agenda. If GOP hardliners try to hold It hostage, the Blue Wave will turn into a Tsunami."

[thbobby]

15. Probably as good a deal as could be had

Continuing the shutdown hurts people.

Democrats have:

Brought Dreamers and CHIP much public attention.

Forced McConnell to openly promise to legislate about the Dreamers.

Repugs will add poison pills to the immigration bill, but the process has been brought to public attention. Attaching poison pills will be clearly visible for all to see.

A three-week government funding bill will bring more attention to funding in a small amount of time. Democrats can apply pressure then if needed. And repugs do not like the funding of government being so prominently displayed.

[brush]

25. And at the end of the new CR if McConnell and the repugs break their promise or come up...

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with odious terms we can not agree and be in a possibly even stronger position as the time runs out and the repugs will again be shown incompetent in their ability to govern.

Another shutdown will put us in an even stronger position.

[jalan48]

16. Glad to see Schumer didn't cave to the "Far Left" wing of our Party.

[still_one]

18. Perhaps those who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee, or the 47% who didn't vote in 2016

should have done so

[jalan48]

24. Too far left it looks like?

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. If everybody votes, no republican wins almost anywhere in the country. Well, maybe

20% of the House and Senate seats would be GOP and the WH would never ever be.

[still_one]

32. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[apnu]

17. So we do this again in 3 weeks? (nt)

[Mr. Sparkle]

19. I dont see anything magical happening in the next three weeks.

I hate to say it bit if feels like the democrats cave easily under pressure.

The is the only vote where they have any bargaining power what so ever.

[Mr. Sparkle]

39. I would like to retract my post, Chip have been funded for several more years

Well done Democrats!

[bluestarone]

21. i'm hoping ALL senate democrats vote there OWN mind on this

If you feel like NO then vote NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do not follow the leader JUST BECAUSE he wants them too

[old guy]

22. Wrong decision.

Dems cave again. Sigh.

[brush]

27. Not necessarily, if after 3 weeks and the repugs renege on their promise, or only come up...

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with odious terms, we go out again and be in a possibly even stronger position as the repugs will be shown to again have no ability to govern despite controlling all 3 branches of government.

[old guy]

33. The repubs will now take credit for stopping the shut down.

They will renege on their promise and the Dems will shoulder the blame if a shut down reoccurs. IMO this vote cedes the high ground to the repubs based on a worthless promise.

[brush]

34. I don't agree. If after 3 weeks and there is another shutdown it just shows the utter incompetence..

of the repugs ability to govern.

Running all three branches of government and not being able to keep the doors open is not good for them.

[Mr.Bill]

35. This is a major fuck-up by Schumer.

The republicans will not honor their end of the deal, and within 60 days ICE will be kicking down doors and swinging clubs to deport the Dreamers.

[brush]

36. You know this new CR is only for 3 wks, right? If there is no good deal on DACA another...

shutdown will show even more that the repugs can't govern.

McConnell knows that. He also knows that he needs 60 votes not 50 with Pence coming in to save his bacon by breaking the tie.

We also got 6 more years of CHIP with this short term deal so that bargaining chip is taken away from the repugs.

We got 'em by the short hairs.

[Mr.Bill]

37. Trump won't sign a DACA deal.

Period.

[brush]

38. You don't know that. trump is all over the map. McConnell will compliment him somehow...

and add sweeteners to the bill to get him to sign (if there is a deal we Dems agree to) because he knows if another shutdown happens the repugs will take the heat, plus he also knows he'll be staring at not just a blue wave but a blue tsunami if the gov shuts down again.

trump is no unyielding, invincible force.

We've seen a year now of this child-like and malleable fake president.

He has to be kissed up to the right way.

[Mr.Bill]

40. Social media has his base thinking

the DACA people are bloodthirsty Mexican savages. He will lose his base if he signs a DACA bill. Not to mention the white supremacist Nazis he his holed up with in the oval office.

[brush]

41. And some repug with sense will explain to him in child-like phrases that his vaunted base...

is only a small percentage of repugs, and an even smaller percentage of voters.

We all know trump doesn't really care about his base if his own ass is at stake.

[Mr.Bill]

42. Look, I really hope you are right,

I'm just not that optimistic about the current situation. You can't make deals with pathological liars is my bottom line.

[Ccarmona]

23. Ridiculous, Dems Cave

With no firm commitments to approve DACA & CHIP from the Repugs or DT.

[benld74]

26. Lucy-Football-Charlie Brown COming in February once again folk

[joanbarnes]

30. Government now running like a lending library-2- to 3-week terms.