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Judi Lynn

(161,952 posts)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:14 PM Feb 2018

Enraged Father Killed Social Worker When She Tried to Take His Toddler Son Away: Police

Source: Epoch Times

By Epoch Newsroom
February 9, 2018 1:57 pm Last Updated: February 9, 2018 1:57 pm



An enraged father beat a social worker, who was trying to take his toddler into protective custody, so badly that she later died, officials announced this week.

Angela Sucher of Milledgeville, Illinois, called police in September 2017 after her 25-year-old son allegedly attacked social worker Pamela Knight, 59.

The 25-year-old son, Andrew Sucher, became upset after Knight arrived to take his 2-year-old boy into custody.

“He feels like he’s being harassed by them, and so he attacked her,” Angela Sucher told the 911 dispatcher in one of two calls placed minutes apart on Sept. 29, according to the Chicago Tribune. “You need to get an ambulance here now!”

Read more: https://www.theepochtimes.com/enraged-father-beat-social-worker-to-death-when-she-tried-to-take-his-toddler-son-away-police_2437357.html

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SWBTATTReg

(23,566 posts)
1. Now kid won't have his father...probably a very good thing since this guy is a
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:23 PM
Feb 2018

brutal killer and killed someone who was just doing her job. Very sad for both families.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Having had a Family Member
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:24 PM
Feb 2018

involved with Courts and Child Welfare,very surprised this type of instants do not happen more often. When ever She was in Court handling these type of Cases,she made sure there were more than one Bailiff beside her or between her and the Parents.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. You just nailed a real problem.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:59 PM
Feb 2018

And,when a Uniform shows,it can and does amp-up the Tension level. The Daughter left after a year and half,and moved on to Elder Care as she would say,shoes thrown leave a spot but bullets leave holes.

No Vested Interest

(5,186 posts)
3. Did she go to the home alone, or did she have someone with her?
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:32 PM
Feb 2018

It seems to me that someone removing a child from a home should always have at least one other person with her/him; more when it is known that there is violence in the family.

Many persons would strike out in what they believe is defense of their child, even when they are in the wrong.

This is very sad.

IronLionZion

(46,701 posts)
4. local police serve eviction notices, they should be involved in these cases also
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:36 PM
Feb 2018

so going forward, when a child is to be removed from an abusive household, local police should accompany the social workers.

Kaleva

(37,623 posts)
6. Having been a foster parent, I find it odd the caseworker was alone
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:48 PM
Feb 2018

In situations like this, there's usually two or a police officer and in one case there were several police officers. Emotions run very high and sometimes violence breaks out.

Judi Lynn

(161,952 posts)
7. Child welfare worker dies after attack while taking child into protective custody
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:48 PM
Feb 2018

By CRIMESIDER STAFF AP February 9, 2018, 1:38 PM

CHICAGO — An Illinois child welfare worker died Thursday from injuries suffered when she was severely beaten last year while trying to take protective custody of a child.

Pamela Sue Knight died at a Chicago hospital, according to Neil Skene, spokesman for the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services.

The suspect, Andrew Sucher, 25, is accused of kicking Knight in the head so severely that he fractured her skull in September. The attack caused permanent brain damage and extensive physical disabilities.

"DCFS is deeply saddened by the passing of our colleague, Pamela Knight," said department director Beverly Walker. "We are forever grateful for her work to help children and families in Illinois. The work many at DCFS do is not easy."

More:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/child-welfare-worker-dies-after-attack-while-taking-child-into-protective-custody/






Pamela Sue Knight

Rest in Peace

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
9. A lot of these decisions are made at the scene, without time to get an officer.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:57 PM
Feb 2018

You get a call alleging threat of harm. You go out and find immediate danger to a child. You remove. You can’t take police with you on every initial assessment, there aren’t that many police around. Most parents don’t beat you to death.

And yes, it is scary and underpaid work.

IronLionZion

(46,701 posts)
12. I personally know some social workers and it's not immediate
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:16 PM
Feb 2018

there's a process where over several visits and data collected it is determined the child should be removed. A lot of social workers would like it to be faster.

If the child shows up at the ER with suspicious injuries, both the child protection service and police are notified.

Judi Lynn

(161,952 posts)
15. Not at all wrong! I felt deeply disgusted seeing that face the first time.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:52 PM
Feb 2018

Now that you've mentioned it, I can see there's no way to avoid acknowledging it!

Double creepy! Good grief.

Nunes has been looking like a criminal a LOT since he started this escapade with Orange Hitler. Every picture of him shows him looking like he's on the run, has just robbed a bank, etc.

So glad you made the connection for those of us who were creeped out even more than we should have been for seeing a stranger's face for the first time!



JDC

(10,350 posts)
14. Seems like a Social Worker taking someone's child should have
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

Police escort her. She went alone?

Thread 9 answers my question....

Blue_Roses

(12,997 posts)
16. This is something that needs to get more attention
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 11:24 PM
Feb 2018

These case workers are heavily over their case load and usually burning the candle at both ends. The last thing a case worker wants to do is break up a family, but in necessary cases it has to be done. As a case worker myself, I would expect an officier to go with me in any situation that is volatile, however, you just never know when you go for a simple visit and it then turns on a dime.

One of my co-workers went to a house that had the KKK emblem blazoned across the living room. She was black and she eased herself out with humor, grace, and tact. We were able to talk about it later over happy hour--thank-goodness!

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