In response to Florida shooting, Trump calls suspect 'mentally disturbed,' does not mention gun ...
Source: The Washington Post
In response to Florida shooting, Trump calls suspect mentally disturbed, does not mention gun control
By David Nakamura February 15 at 11:44 AM
President Trump on Thursday called the suspect in the mass school shooting in Parkland, Fla., mentally disturbed and vowed to help local jurisdictions tackle mental health issues, but he made no mention of stricter gun control laws.
In a televised address at the White House, Trump focused his response on the need for the nation to offer more support for young people who feel isolated a day after Nikolas Cruz, 19, a former student who had been expelled from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High, was accused of the rampage that killed 17 people at his former school.
I want you to know you are never alone and never will be, Trump said during brief remarks in the Diplomatic Room. He urged young people to turn for help to a teacher, a family member, a local police officer or a faith leader.
Answer hate with love, he said. Answer cruelty with kindness.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/02/15/trump-weighs-in-on-florida-shooting-calls-suspect-mentally-disturbed/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpflorida-942am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0d0c88c280c0
bucolic_frolic
(43,166 posts)Patently fake emotions designed for political cover
just plain fake
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)it takes one to know one.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)(snark)
iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)shooters may have underlying mental health problems, that is not the fkn ELEPHANT in the room. The issue is there are too many guns in America and there needs to be legislation for sensible gun ownership.
Automatic Assault weapons should only be available to law enforcement and the military. They need to be banned for the general public.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Fully automatic weapons were registered in the 1930's, and new ones effectively banned in 1986. All existing legal fully automatic weapons are old, command collectors prices, require a full background check with fingerprints, registration, and a $200 tax stamp. You can count the number used in the commission of a crime on one hand.
I suggest the registry for NFA weapons be re-opened, and extended to include semi-autos. (The weapon used in Florida was a semi-auto.)
The registry was extremely effective at combatting straw purchases, unlawful transfers, gets rid of the 'gun show loophole' however you might define that issue, and raises the 'bar to entry' to people who can pass a full background check.
It's a good start.
iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)got my point. Any weapons that put bullets out in extremely rapid succession (like I heard during the frightening cell phone videos) needs to be banned.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I think we could get a LOT of mileage out of treating them like we treat fully automatic weapons. As you note, there's little practical difference between an AR-15, and it's burst/full auto capable sibling; the M-16.
Maybe in the long term, someday, the conversation will change and a ban become feasible. Currently we could get a LOT of harm reduction simply by registering and controlling them like NFA weapons of old. It worked then, it could help now. (The registry was in response to things like Bonnie and Clyde using BAR's (Browning automatic rifles) against armored cars and such for criminal enterprise.)
The NRA actually helped craft and pass the NFA legislation that did the work. Not saying they would today, but there's precedent that could be used against their objections to new legislation, and perhaps silence them.
Jeroen
(1,061 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I guess he left that part out.
eppur_se_muova
(36,263 posts)It makes no rational sense otherwise.
And if he can't follow the argument, he's incapable of logical thought, and needs to be removed from office immediately.
PatSeg
(47,455 posts)He would have been better off saying nothing. "Answer hate with love" and "Answer cruelty with kindness" coming out of his mouth is appalling. He's not a good enough actor to come across as compassionate.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)... he didn't mention his great electoral college victory or the size of the throng at his inaugural address.
His speech was disciplined, civil, well-spoken. And meaningless.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)Lying, cheating, soulless TrumPutin sez, "I want you to know you are never alone and never will be". Did that asshole get that line from Disney or some soap opera? How the hell can that meaningless drivel help any person who went through that murderous event?
He can't even play a human.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)He didn't write the speech. There's no way he could sit for that length of time and compose a speech. He has people who can scour the internet for uplifting phrases and weave them into a speech that sounds good while saying nothing.
All he has to do is stick to the script. Today, he did that.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)Whatever falls out of that depraved mouth is his.
His words are inadequate. His actions are duplicitous.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)continue this normalizing of bull shit and say it was a mental issue................your a fucking idiot, a dangerous one at that
So my question is , are you going to get on the big old plane and fly down to play some golf, or are you going to go to the school and speak to the parents.............................not..........................you are incapable of empathy, you put on a fucking SHOW for ratings, your so narcissistic you have no concept of reality
And your a fucking traitor.....................and you said this:
I want you to know you are never alone and never will be, Trump said during brief remarks in the Diplomatic Room. He urged young people to turn for help to a teacher, a family member, a local police officer or a faith leader.
Its like someone scratching a blackboard when you speak...................you showed no fucking leadership--------------none
November 2018 cannot get here fast enough
2naSalit
(86,626 posts)Every time he opens his mouth. I used to be able to avoid that.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Good one.......................
Deuce
(959 posts)Vinca
(50,273 posts)What the hell is wrong with these people??????????
matt819
(10,749 posts)Was it about Muslims or Mexicans or whatever that the buffoon-in-chief said we need to know what's going on with them?
Frankly, we need to know what's going on with all these white guys shooting up school children.
Of course, we know what's going on. Legislators are bought and paid for. The NRA is a front for Russian money laundering. White supremacists and gun humpers (but I repeat myself) have a friend in the WH. And it seems that domestic terrorism by these white guys is just dandy with the WH and half the white people in the US.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)"Yes, 9-1-1? I'd like to report a mentally disturbed maniac whom I know has threatened violence and who poses an immediate danger of physical harm to the nations of North and South Korea, Japan, China, assorted countries nearby, and probably the United States, as well. He has a vicious grudge against Mexico, too. . . . Description? 6'3", 239 lbs . . ."
groundloop
(11,519 posts)I'm certain the first two number got transposed.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221
Feb 28, 2017. President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.
The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.
Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.
President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.
dlk
(11,566 posts)Why be logical?
walkingman
(7,617 posts)support responsible gun control. Enough is Enough.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)tRump was thrown out of school for antisocial behavior.
tRump has lied, cheated, sexually assaulted women, and probably more.
tRump is unstable and volatile and petty.
The shooter was just emulating tRump.