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Judi Lynn

(160,598 posts)
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 06:57 PM Feb 2018

Police: Officers shoot man who raised gun at restaurant

Source: Associated Press


Updated 3:28 pm, Wednesday, February 28, 2018

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Authorities say an armed man was fatally shot during a confrontation with Florida police officers.

Orlando police Deputy Chief Eric Smith said during a news conference that the shooting occurred Wednesday morning.

Police say the armed man went to a Wahlburgers restaurant in downtown Orlando, raised a handgun and then left. Officials say someone at the restaurant had a domestic violence injunction against the man. Employees and customers called 911.

Smith says officers responded and encountered the suspect nearby. Police say officers gave repeated commands for the man to drop his weapon before opening fire. The man was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Police-Officers-shoot-man-who-raised-gun-at-12717516.php

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Police: Officers shoot man who raised gun at restaurant (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2018 OP
Anyone taking bets on whether this is a white guy? dhol82 Feb 2018 #1
Yes they Rebl2 Feb 2018 #4
Sure they do. Aristus Feb 2018 #9
Our "well-regulated militia". Again. NM Grins Feb 2018 #2
The man was pronounced dead. Good. Botany Feb 2018 #3
Domestic violence calls are the absolute worst. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #10
WAIT. Just let time elapse. kiri Feb 2018 #11
In most of the cases I remember... Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #12
Why did the person bring a gun into a restaurant? rockfordfile Feb 2018 #5
probably because he wanted to get shot after making a lot of demigoddess Feb 2018 #6
I'm leaning towards this: aeromanKC Feb 2018 #7
because he was a gun humping moron Skittles Feb 2018 #13
Article from a local source csziggy Feb 2018 #8
One less nut. LiberalFighter Feb 2018 #14
Qawi A. Muhammad, 48. ehrnst Mar 2018 #15
I have no sympathy for the idiot with the gun in this situation. Vinca Mar 2018 #16

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
9. Sure they do.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:23 PM
Feb 2018

But only after 'repeated commands'.

Black victims only get 'He's black! Open fire!".

Botany

(70,556 posts)
3. The man was pronounced dead. Good.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:04 PM
Feb 2018


If you have a gun and the police tell you to put it down and you don't
you are gonna get shot. We just lost two really good cops in central OH to a
dirt bag abuser who ambushed them on a 9-11 call. Domestic abuse calls are
some of the dangerous runs the police make and after what just happened here
in OH the police are going to have to change their protocols on how they handle
them.

Jedi Guy

(3,244 posts)
10. Domestic violence calls are the absolute worst.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:40 PM
Feb 2018

When I was a dispatcher, I used to hate sending officers to DV calls because it could go sideways in an instant. It was really heartbreaking when the first officer would arrive on scene and wait to go deal with the situation until his backup arrived, because the abuse was still going on. But sending an officer into that situation solo... not a good idea.

I remember one DV call where the officers arrived to find the woman with a busted lip, black eye, and broken teeth. They arrested the scumbag husband and were walking him out, and the woman attacked them to stop them taking the husband away! I was absolutely floored by that.

kiri

(796 posts)
11. WAIT. Just let time elapse.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 09:04 PM
Feb 2018

LEOs seem to have no sense of time. You don't have to storm in a "fix" to situation in 10 seconds. Once the assaulter realizes the cops are there, changes occur. WAIT.

Merely surrounding. Wait 1 hr, 3 hrs, 1 day. Inexpensive. Comando mentality and lack of patience causes many tragedies.

[Obviously in cases of on-going violence once the cops arrive, waiting doesn't work. These cases are rare.]

Jedi Guy

(3,244 posts)
12. In most of the cases I remember...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 09:16 PM
Feb 2018

The officers went in because there was ongoing violence. I fortunately only ever had one call involving barricaded suspects. That was a SWAT callout and it was a nightmare. It ended peacefully with no one injured, but for a while I was thinking it was gonna end with flashbangs going into windows and doors getting rammed down.

demigoddess

(6,644 posts)
6. probably because he wanted to get shot after making a lot of
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:57 PM
Feb 2018

people freak out. Suicide by cop. White men do this with and without shooting people. I remember one in a McDonalds.

aeromanKC

(3,326 posts)
7. I'm leaning towards this:
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:58 PM
Feb 2018

"Officials say someone at the restaurant had a domestic violence injunction against the man."

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. Article from a local source
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:16 PM
Feb 2018
Police shoot, kill man they say came armed to downtown Orlando Wahlburgers
by Gal Tziperman Lotan and Bianca Padró Ocasio
Feb 28, 2018 5:55 PM

Police shot and killed a man who came armed into a downtown Orlando Wahlburgers restaurant Wednesday morning, the Orlando Police Department said.

Police did not identify the man. A person in the Wahlburgers had a domestic violence injunction against him, Orlando Police Deputy Chief Eric Smith said.

“To have a person downtown armed with a gun is a very dangerous situation,” Smith said.

The man came into Wahlburgers at 200 S. Orange Ave. just after the restaurant opened at 11 a.m., Smith said. Patrons called 911, and employees called police as they followed the man out of the restaurant. Several officers surrounded the man at Hughey Avenue and told him to drop his weapon, Smith said.

He did not, and officers fired at him, Smith said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-officer-involved-shooting-downtown-orlando20180228-story.html


It includes additional details about the incident and the restaurant management reaction.

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
16. I have no sympathy for the idiot with the gun in this situation.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:35 AM
Mar 2018

It's not rocket science. You point a gun at a cop and you get shot. All he had to do was drop the gun. There are plenty of bad shootings, but ending up dead after this scenario isn't one of them.

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