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demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:05 PM Mar 2018

Georgia passes tax bill punishing Delta for NRA split

Source: Axios

Georgia lawmakers on Thursday approved a tax bill that is stripped of a jet fuel tax break, likely in retaliation for Delta Air Lines' decision to end its discount program with the NRA, reports the AP. The bill will now go to the desk of Republican Gov. Nathan Deal, who has said he will "sign it in whatever form it passed."

Why it matters: Georgia’s Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle pledged to kill the tax break unless Delta fully reinstates its relationship with the NRA, tweeting on Monday, "Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back." Barring a veto from Gov. Deal, Cagle will have succeeded in punishing the city of Atlanta's No. 1 employer — a highly unusual and partisan move that is sure to receive backlash.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/georgia-votes-to-punish-delta-for-nra-split-c7439cd1-feff-4a8f-b890-359956cc63f7.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&utm_term=politics



More info:

Georgia Senate approves tax bill, snubbing Delta in NRA feud

Pro-gun Georgia lawmakers scored a political victory Thursday over Delta Air Lines, making good on Republican threats to deny the company a hefty tax break after it cut ties with the National Rifle Association in the wake of the deadly shooting at a Florida high school.

The state House and Senate within hours of each other passed a sweeping tax bill that Republicans had amended to strip out a sales tax exemption on jet fuel. Atlanta-based Delta would have been the prime beneficiary of the tax break, which would have been worth an estimated $38 million.

The political battle at the Georgia Capitol was the latest in a renewed debate over gun control and school safety after the Feb. 14 shooting. GOP Gov. Nathan Deal criticized the Delta controversy as an "unbecoming squabble" but said he would sign the broader tax measure in whatever form it passed.

The Senate's presiding officer is Republican Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, who vowed Monday to stop any tax break that would benefit Delta — sparking a showdown at the state Capitol between gun-rights supporters and one of Georgia's largest private employers.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/georgia-senate-approves-tax-bill-snubbing-delta-nra-53446838
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Georgia passes tax bill punishing Delta for NRA split (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2018 OP
If I was Delta I would commence looking for a new hub and corporate headquarters. cstanleytech Mar 2018 #1
Not Gonna Happen SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #2
Delta has to eat the loss and move Weed Man Mar 2018 #8
I like Delta. It's my favorite airline. ananda Mar 2018 #9
Frontier is my hometown airline Weed Man Mar 2018 #41
Why would they face backlash for not moving out of Georgia? Calista241 Mar 2018 #36
I don't know about that leftieNanner Mar 2018 #20
Georgia Does Need Delta More Than Other Way Around SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #31
Good Point leftieNanner Mar 2018 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author quartz007 Mar 2018 #61
For profit businesses should stay out of politics quartz007 Mar 2018 #62
Amazon should announce that they won't consider Atlanta now for their new HQ, since tblue37 Mar 2018 #73
If it is this difficult to move, I'm surprised that legislators ever considered offering a tax break spooky3 Mar 2018 #42
Start moving what operations they can out of state DBoon Mar 2018 #12
DE, VA, NY have already expressed interest. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #67
maybe just raise fares blaming the repubs! bluestarone Mar 2018 #19
Isnt this unconstitutional? TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #3
as i understand it, they *didn't* pass a big tax break for jet fuel. unblock Mar 2018 #17
Yes, but that is separate issue.. TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #24
no, they passed a tax bill treating delta the same as everyone else. unblock Mar 2018 #25
Well, if I were a lawyer for Delta... TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #29
delta lobbied for the tax break in the first place and afaik it didn't make it into law. unblock Mar 2018 #34
Perhaps I have misunderstood the newspiece TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #37
my understanding is that they were passing a broad tax bill covering many things. unblock Mar 2018 #40
Some history on the jet fuel tax break: sl8 Mar 2018 #54
If I were an injured party I would have standing for a lawsuit but.... TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #30
The jet fuel exemption would have applied to any purchase of jet fuel at a qualifying airport onenote Mar 2018 #49
Great question slumcamper Mar 2018 #21
It doesn't "single out" Delta. onenote Mar 2018 #50
Yes but they have publicly stated that it is a punishment for Delta! TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #53
Yes. And that sucked. But it doesn't make the tax break good policy. onenote Mar 2018 #55
Thats a separate issue. TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #59
It is most definitely not a bill of attainder onenote Mar 2018 #63
Yes it is because they have publicly stated that that is their intent. TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #66
Acorn v. US onenote Mar 2018 #71
Anxious to hear Delta's response. This is a sort of blackmail isn't it? Wwcd Mar 2018 #4
Seems like it. vkkv Mar 2018 #11
Delta's next response: Weed Man Mar 2018 #5
Considering the welcoming offers Delta has been given to relocate... Wwcd Mar 2018 #13
Well, they didn't get the tax break in 2016 or 2017, either, and they didn't leave. sl8 Mar 2018 #58
The largest private employer in GA. Delta employees, their families and friends. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #6
Fucking assholes! Initech Mar 2018 #7
Delta will have to raise prices or announce some lay-offs.. or a corparate move out of state. vkkv Mar 2018 #10
Gosh, Republicans resorting to extortion Scalded Nun Mar 2018 #14
If a democrat had attempted that... Initech Mar 2018 #15
Virginia & New York send "Welcome" to Delta Airlines Wwcd Mar 2018 #16
So was Delta going to pay less for fuel than Southwest? greymattermom Mar 2018 #18
No whopis01 Mar 2018 #72
How Does This Work as... OneBlueDotBama Mar 2018 #22
Delta should form a PAC and donate to Democrats only Vinnie From Indy Mar 2018 #23
There goes any chance at all for Georgia gettinf Amazon's new headquarters. BiminiTwisted Mar 2018 #26
Georgia government picking winners and losers. louis-t Mar 2018 #27
Delta has a huge presence in Minneapolis........ ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2018 #28
Yes. I remember Delta & Frontier being the main Northern carriers yrs ago Wwcd Mar 2018 #33
The republicans always overstep. This will hurt them bigly. pwb Mar 2018 #35
exactly, they can pass the cost to passengers onetexan Mar 2018 #39
Delta should leave that shithole samir.g Mar 2018 #38
How can they pass a bill that punishes one corporation kacekwl Mar 2018 #43
A drop-in-the-bucket to Delta's profits. This is just a symbolic slap in the fact to Delta... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #44
Just for kicks without doing anything, Cold War Spook Mar 2018 #45
Just Shows That NRA Is More Important To GA Than Delta SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #46
While reason for doing so sucks, not giving Delta a tax break is good policy onenote Mar 2018 #47
I agree. If the state will use the tens of millions to improve the public school system AND maybe Fred Sanders Mar 2018 #57
......and Boeing will NEVER leave Seattle...... Thunderbeast Mar 2018 #48
Cagle is the front runner to be the next GA Gov, too obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #51
This is the way he wants to play this. Cater to gun owners and NRA members of Georgia. YOHABLO Mar 2018 #64
I am sure other places would like these jobs nycbos Mar 2018 #52
Do Georgia state legislators get a discount for flying Delta? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2018 #56
Time for Delta to butter its toast on the left side. nt NCjack Mar 2018 #60
I wonder if they'd do the same to the Movie Industry that is so prevalent in GA? YOHABLO Mar 2018 #65
*C-O-R-R-U-P-T-I-O-N* What's that spell? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #68
Delta.... paleotn Mar 2018 #69
Simple but expensive countermove jmowreader Mar 2018 #70
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
2. Not Gonna Happen
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:09 PM
Mar 2018

Delta IS Atlanta. They can't just relocate their hub. Far costlier than any tax credit they're losing. Unfortunately, this is one case where the victim just has to take it, no chance for retaliation.

 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
8. Delta has to eat the loss and move
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:16 PM
Mar 2018

Or Delta will also face a massive backlash for not moving out of Georgia.

On a personal note: Delta is a very nice airline, a bit expensive, but nice.



 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
41. Frontier is my hometown airline
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:27 PM
Mar 2018

It is an embarrassment really. They had good service back then. Now it acts like Spirit, literally charging you for everything and to boot the only US based airline (as far as I know) not offering Internet service. Needless i try to avoid it while they blare at my email account with $20 fares... to boring cities nearby.

Im glad i flew on Southwest recently. Fine service but had to get the Internet through Paypal because their credit card portal wasnt working.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
36. Why would they face backlash for not moving out of Georgia?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:09 PM
Mar 2018

Moving in the near to medium term is impossible for Delta.

They have long term contracts for gates at the airport. And no other airport is big enough and has enough open gates for Delta to purchase.

Their entire business model is around moving people to and through Atlanta. Atlanta’s airport is one of the nicest and most efficient airports in the world.

You think Delta is willing to throw all that away for a measly fuel state tax credit?

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
20. I don't know about that
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:38 PM
Mar 2018

United Airlines was a San Francisco company and they moved their HQ to Chicago.

Once again, The Stupid rears its ugly head. Well done, Georgia!

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
31. Georgia Does Need Delta More Than Other Way Around
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:04 PM
Mar 2018

I still highly doubt that Delta would move their hub, but I would be absolutely thrilled if they did.

The VINDICTIVE ASSHOLES who just took away Delta's tax credit, are counting on Delta doing nothing. It would be absolutely fucking fantastic if Delta announced they were exploring other cities as their new main hub, and planned on leaving Atlanta once their contract expired.

Anybody know if Delta has a contract with the Atlanta airport, and if so, when it expires?

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
32. Good Point
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:05 PM
Mar 2018

Being an asshole for these GOPers seems to be more of a feature than a bug. May they come to sow what they reap.

Response to SoCalMusicLover (Reply #31)

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
62. For profit businesses should stay out of politics
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:56 PM
Mar 2018

Delta was wrong to offer NRA member discounts,
and it was wrong again to take them away based on political winds.

For Profit businesses should treat every customer equal. AT&T gives me an employer based 30% discount for cell phone service. That is a wrong policy. They should treat every customer equal.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
73. Amazon should announce that they won't consider Atlanta now for their new HQ, since
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:49 AM
Mar 2018

they can't trust (Republican) politicians in Georgia.

Delta maybe can't move, but other businesses can smack these fools upside the head, loudly and publicly.

spooky3

(34,442 posts)
42. If it is this difficult to move, I'm surprised that legislators ever considered offering a tax break
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:33 PM
Mar 2018

in the first place.

DBoon

(22,363 posts)
12. Start moving what operations they can out of state
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:25 PM
Mar 2018

maybe put out feelers to other states willing to subsidize their relocation

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
19. maybe just raise fares blaming the repubs!
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:38 PM
Mar 2018

Then say when the repubs come to their senses, they will go back to original fares

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
3. Isnt this unconstitutional?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:12 PM
Mar 2018

Since the U.S. constitution specifically prohibits bills of attainder, that is a bill which sanctions a person or entity rather than a specific behavior or action, taken together with their public statements that they want to get Delta?

What do you think?

unblock

(52,205 posts)
17. as i understand it, they *didn't* pass a big tax break for jet fuel.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:33 PM
Mar 2018

the proposed tax break was really just a typical, corrupt payout to a local company that effectively lobbies politicians.

from a business perspective, delta messed up the timing; they really should have waited until georgia passed the tax bill, including the big break, before saying anything.

in any event, delta doesn't have any particular constitutional right to legislators passing a tax break that vastly disproportionately would have benefited them over any other georgia citizen or business.


that's not to say the politicians involved weren't horrible corrupt themselves, it's a ludicrous shakedown. but delta can't really use the courts to fight back.

i expect delta to fight back by shifting its campaign contributions to punish a few selected politicians.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
24. Yes, but that is separate issue..
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:49 PM
Mar 2018

Since the stated purpose of this legislation is to punish Delta it is still unconstitutional.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
25. no, they passed a tax bill treating delta the same as everyone else.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:54 PM
Mar 2018

they *were* going to give delta some favoritism and decided against it.

delta ends up getting treated like anyone else, so it's hard for them to show constitutional injury.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
29. Well, if I were a lawyer for Delta...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:00 PM
Mar 2018

Then I would argue that it is punitive to give something in the first place if it can be taken away for vindictive reasons.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
34. delta lobbied for the tax break in the first place and afaik it didn't make it into law.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:07 PM
Mar 2018

it made it into a draft of the bill but they took it out of the final version.


i'm totally with you that what these politicians did is horribly corrupt. it's just that delta was asking for something corrupt themselves, and can't really make a legal case that they're entitled to their corruption.

delta can move out of atlanta and/or stop contributing to the politicians behind these shenanigans. but they can't really sue over not getting special treatment even if it was revoked corrupt reasons -- after all it was being contemplated for corrupt reasons in the first place.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
37. Perhaps I have misunderstood the newspiece
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:13 PM
Mar 2018

It was my impression that the Georgia legislature was repealing existing legislation, are you saying this is not the case.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
40. my understanding is that they were passing a broad tax bill covering many things.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:17 PM
Mar 2018

and had planned on inserting a big break on jet fuel for delta as part of it.

in retaliation against delta, they dropped the intended tax break for jet fuel and then passed the rest of the tax bill.

sl8

(13,749 posts)
54. Some history on the jet fuel tax break:
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:40 PM
Mar 2018

From https://www.taxrates.com/blog/2018/02/14/georgia-governor-champions-sales-tax-exemption-jet-fuel/:

...

Other airlines would also benefit from the proposed exemption, since fuel is the second highest input for airlines. Sean Williams, vice president for state and local government affairs at Airlines for America, says the exemption could draw more flights to Atlanta. He notes that North Carolina “saw a 4 percent increase in flights in the first year after removing its sales tax.”

Georgia should be familiar with the effects of a sales tax exemption for jet fuel. After Delta filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2005, the state exempted a qualifying airline (Delta) at a qualifying airport (Hartsfield-Jackson) from 1 percent of the state sales tax on jet fuel. It extended the temporary exemption three times until 2012, when it made it permanent. However, the exemption was then repealed effective July 1, 2015.

There have been at least two attempts to partially restore the sales tax exemption for fuel since then, though both failed to gain traction. In 2016, HB 898 sought to exempt from any state or local sales and use tax aviation fuel purchased by a qualifying airline at a qualifying airport. Tax would be collected on 20 percent of the fuel purchased, as that was deemed to be consumed in the state. Fuel consumed outside of the state would be exempt.

A less generous measure was proposed in 2017. HB 145 sought to partially exempt jet fuel from state sales and use tax (local sales and use tax would still apply). Qualifying airlines at qualifying airports would not have to pay state sales tax on 55 percent of the jet fuel purchased to travel out of state. State tax would be collected on the remaining 45 percent.

...



More at link.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
30. If I were an injured party I would have standing for a lawsuit but....
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:02 PM
Mar 2018

If you give something and take it away.....(see above)

onenote

(42,700 posts)
49. The jet fuel exemption would have applied to any purchase of jet fuel at a qualifying airport
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:36 PM
Mar 2018

It would have benefitted Delta more than other companies simply because Delta buys more jet fuel in Georgia than any other airline.

While I get that it's obnoxious that the state government would "punish" Delta because of their decision to stop offering an NRA discount, I'm surprised that so many people here suddenly are big supporters of tax cuts for large corporate entities.

The original tax exemption was granted when the airlines were barely staying in business after 9/11. It hung around until 2015 despite the airlines recovery and was repealed. But in a Trumpian-like fervor for handing out goodies to corporations, the state was about to give them back the tax break, even though it wasn't needed like it was when it was originally adopted.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
21. Great question
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:39 PM
Mar 2018

I haven't looked at the specific provisions of the bill, but it singles Delta out, then I imagine Delta's legal team is already on it and the federal courts will have to answer the question of the scope of bill of attainder or whether this action violates any existing laws governing interstate commerce.

So, once again the judicial branch will have to contemplate the constitutional questions attendant with another extremist law passed by the GOP at a state level. The spew of mean-spirited, right-wing extremist legislation in GOP-controlled states is an epidemic.

On a more fundamental level, the use of legislative power to leverage the tax authority for vindictive and punitive purposes against entities both private (as in Delta) and public (e.g., Blue states) is clearly a central GOP strategy at both federal and state levels. Have Democrats done the same?


onenote

(42,700 posts)
55. Yes. And that sucked. But it doesn't make the tax break good policy.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:45 PM
Mar 2018

Any more than the tax breaks Trump pushed through at the federal level for big corporations.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
59. Thats a separate issue.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:55 PM
Mar 2018

The fact that they are doing it as a form of retribution against an entity (Delta airlines) for taking a legal action (choosing not to partner with the NRA) it is a bill of attainder and is therefore unconstitutional.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
63. It is most definitely not a bill of attainder
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:02 PM
Mar 2018

While it will impact delta more than other airlines because they buy more fuel in the state it doesn’t single out delta or subject them to a law that doesn’t apply to other airlines.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
66. Yes it is because they have publicly stated that that is their intent.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:13 PM
Mar 2018

Last edited Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:45 PM - Edit history (1)

It doesn’t need to be in the text of the bill, you need only prove intent.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
71. Acorn v. US
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:10 PM
Mar 2018

In 2010, Congress passed a continuing resolution to fund the government that contained the following provision:
None of the funds made available by this joint resolution or any prior Act may be provided to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now ACORN, or any of its affiliates, subsidiaries, or allied organizations. At the time, members of the house were accusing ACORN of voter registration fraud.

In ACORN v.US, the Second Circuit rejected a claim that this constituted a bill of attainder. The court cited the Supreme Court's three part test for a bill of attainder -- (1) “specification of the affected persons,” (2) “punishment,” and (3) “lack of a judicial trial." The first and third prongs were not contested, but the court concluded that denying a corporate entity a government appropriation was not a "punishment" for purposes of the Bill of Attainder clause.

In the case of Georgia not giving Delta a tax break that wasn't given to anyone else either, two of the prongs fail: lack of specificity and lack of punishment.

But maybe you have more experience with Bill of Attainder cases and can point me to a case that would support the claim that the refusal of Georgia to give any airline in the state a tax break is a bill of attainder.

 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
5. Delta's next response:
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:15 PM
Mar 2018

We're cancellling all the contracts and will be moving out of Atlanta shortly.

Good luck Georgia, you're going to need it.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
13. Considering the welcoming offers Delta has been given to relocate...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:26 PM
Mar 2018

However it would be a massive undertaking & probably the grandest bluff-call in history.
This should be interesting.

I'm cheering for "Leave!"

sl8

(13,749 posts)
58. Well, they didn't get the tax break in 2016 or 2017, either, and they didn't leave.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:54 PM
Mar 2018

Maybe this year will be different.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
6. The largest private employer in GA. Delta employees, their families and friends.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:15 PM
Mar 2018

A lot of voters. Go after these pukes, the best way we can. Beat them at the ballot box. I would think this may resonate with working people.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
10. Delta will have to raise prices or announce some lay-offs.. or a corparate move out of state.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:18 PM
Mar 2018

I'd start laying off some of those GOP constituents.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
15. If a democrat had attempted that...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:28 PM
Mar 2018

The GOP would have impeached, indicted, imprisoned, and popped the champagne. God they are assholes.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
16. Virginia & New York send "Welcome" to Delta Airlines
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:32 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/380523002

Andrew Cuomo

@NYGovCuomo
.@Delta, if Georgia politicians disagree with your stand against gun violence, we invite you to move your headquarters to New York.


Ralph Northam

@GovernorVA
Hey @delta—Virginia is for lovers and airline hubs. You're welcome here any time.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
18. So was Delta going to pay less for fuel than Southwest?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:35 PM
Mar 2018

Both occupy a big chunk of Hartsfield Jackson. How would that even work?

whopis01

(3,511 posts)
72. No
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:44 AM
Mar 2018

There was never any legislation that singled out Delta in any way.

They were going to give all airlines a tax cut on jet fuel purchases. Delta buys more than anyone else there, so they would have benefited more.

But now they didn’t pass the tax cut.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
22. How Does This Work as...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:47 PM
Mar 2018

Delta owns their own refinery, Trainer in Penn, they bought it from Phillips in 2012.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
28. Delta has a huge presence in Minneapolis........
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:00 PM
Mar 2018


Locate here. Delta bought out Northwest, whose hub was Mjnneapolis.

pwb

(11,261 posts)
35. The republicans always overstep. This will hurt them bigly.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:07 PM
Mar 2018

Delta could charge customers a surcharge and call it the republican gun lovers tax.

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
39. exactly, they can pass the cost to passengers
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:15 PM
Mar 2018

it doesn't lose either way. But i do think Delta has grounds for this being unconstitutional and can sue the state. Even if they don't win, they can buy time while lawsuit is being litigated. In the least, to make a point for the state not to screw the company again.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
43. How can they pass a bill that punishes one corporation
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:35 PM
Mar 2018

over the policy on another corporation ? What does that have to do with the state of Georgia ?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. A drop-in-the-bucket to Delta's profits. This is just a symbolic slap in the fact to Delta...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:50 PM
Mar 2018

... I'm guessing that the tax breaks on fuel were likely intended to encourage OTHER airlines to schedule more flights into/out-of Atlanta.

I'll bet that this does not harm Delta in any way.

But it does tell me a LOT about the Georgia Senate... and it's not very flattering at all.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
45. Just for kicks without doing anything,
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:18 PM
Mar 2018

send each hourly employee a memo stating the government of Georgia won't let us give any raises this year.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
46. Just Shows That NRA Is More Important To GA Than Delta
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:19 PM
Mar 2018

One would think that a company who brings as much tax revenue & jobs to GA as Delta would be King.

But we all know who the real King is. Wayne and all his fellow minions.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
47. While reason for doing so sucks, not giving Delta a tax break is good policy
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:27 PM
Mar 2018

A lot of folks are suggesting Delta should retaliate and go somewhere where they'll get tax breaks. Really? Are we now supporting more tax breaks for big corporate entities?

The jet fuel tax exemption has a long and somewhat checkered history. It was first adopted in the early 2000s when the airlines were struggling. By 2015, the airlines had recovered enough that the legislature voted to eliminate the exemption, which raised more revenue for the state's general fund, some of which was earmarked to help schools. The FAA, however, ruled that jet fuel tax revenues can't be put in a state's general fund, but can only be used for limited purposes relating more directly to air transportation. With that in mind and with the Trumpian theology of cutting taxes for big corporate entities having prevailed at the federal level, the state legislature considered reinstating the jet fuel tax exemption. They ended up not doing so in a fit of NRA-sucking up pique. But the fact that they reason they didn't reinstate the tax break was fucked up doesn't make giving a big corporate entity an exemption good policy.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
57. I agree. If the state will use the tens of millions to improve the public school system AND maybe
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:51 PM
Mar 2018

take away other corporate giveaways....this is a good start.

Does Delta have a "fuel surcharge", because that would be laughable.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
65. I wonder if they'd do the same to the Movie Industry that is so prevalent in GA?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:09 PM
Mar 2018

A tax break is what is bringing ''Hollywood'' to GA; make no mistake about it.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
69. Delta....
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 09:25 PM
Mar 2018

we're ready if you are.....

Nashville
Greenville / Spartanburg
Jacksonville
Charlotte
Austin
Piedmont Triad
Raleigh / Durham
Memphis.......

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
70. Simple but expensive countermove
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 10:24 PM
Mar 2018

Use their Citizens United-authorized corporate personhood campaign contribution authority to endorse every Democrat running for office in the State of Georgia.

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