Georgia passes tax bill punishing Delta for NRA split
Source: Axios
Georgia lawmakers on Thursday approved a tax bill that is stripped of a jet fuel tax break, likely in retaliation for Delta Air Lines' decision to end its discount program with the NRA, reports the AP. The bill will now go to the desk of Republican Gov. Nathan Deal, who has said he will "sign it in whatever form it passed."
Why it matters: Georgias Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle pledged to kill the tax break unless Delta fully reinstates its relationship with the NRA, tweeting on Monday, "Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back." Barring a veto from Gov. Deal, Cagle will have succeeded in punishing the city of Atlanta's No. 1 employer a highly unusual and partisan move that is sure to receive backlash.
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More info:
Pro-gun Georgia lawmakers scored a political victory Thursday over Delta Air Lines, making good on Republican threats to deny the company a hefty tax break after it cut ties with the National Rifle Association in the wake of the deadly shooting at a Florida high school.
The state House and Senate within hours of each other passed a sweeping tax bill that Republicans had amended to strip out a sales tax exemption on jet fuel. Atlanta-based Delta would have been the prime beneficiary of the tax break, which would have been worth an estimated $38 million.
The political battle at the Georgia Capitol was the latest in a renewed debate over gun control and school safety after the Feb. 14 shooting. GOP Gov. Nathan Deal criticized the Delta controversy as an "unbecoming squabble" but said he would sign the broader tax measure in whatever form it passed.
The Senate's presiding officer is Republican Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, who vowed Monday to stop any tax break that would benefit Delta sparking a showdown at the state Capitol between gun-rights supporters and one of Georgia's largest private employers.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/georgia-senate-approves-tax-bill-snubbing-delta-nra-53446838
cstanleytech
(26,286 posts)SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)Delta IS Atlanta. They can't just relocate their hub. Far costlier than any tax credit they're losing. Unfortunately, this is one case where the victim just has to take it, no chance for retaliation.
Weed Man
(304 posts)Or Delta will also face a massive backlash for not moving out of Georgia.
On a personal note: Delta is a very nice airline, a bit expensive, but nice.
ananda
(28,858 posts)Virgin is nice too.
Frontier sucks.
Weed Man
(304 posts)It is an embarrassment really. They had good service back then. Now it acts like Spirit, literally charging you for everything and to boot the only US based airline (as far as I know) not offering Internet service. Needless i try to avoid it while they blare at my email account with $20 fares... to boring cities nearby.
Im glad i flew on Southwest recently. Fine service but had to get the Internet through Paypal because their credit card portal wasnt working.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Moving in the near to medium term is impossible for Delta.
They have long term contracts for gates at the airport. And no other airport is big enough and has enough open gates for Delta to purchase.
Their entire business model is around moving people to and through Atlanta. Atlantas airport is one of the nicest and most efficient airports in the world.
You think Delta is willing to throw all that away for a measly fuel state tax credit?
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)United Airlines was a San Francisco company and they moved their HQ to Chicago.
Once again, The Stupid rears its ugly head. Well done, Georgia!
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)I still highly doubt that Delta would move their hub, but I would be absolutely thrilled if they did.
The VINDICTIVE ASSHOLES who just took away Delta's tax credit, are counting on Delta doing nothing. It would be absolutely fucking fantastic if Delta announced they were exploring other cities as their new main hub, and planned on leaving Atlanta once their contract expired.
Anybody know if Delta has a contract with the Atlanta airport, and if so, when it expires?
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)Being an asshole for these GOPers seems to be more of a feature than a bug. May they come to sow what they reap.
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quartz007
(1,216 posts)Delta was wrong to offer NRA member discounts,
and it was wrong again to take them away based on political winds.
For Profit businesses should treat every customer equal. AT&T gives me an employer based 30% discount for cell phone service. That is a wrong policy. They should treat every customer equal.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)they can't trust (Republican) politicians in Georgia.
Delta maybe can't move, but other businesses can smack these fools upside the head, loudly and publicly.
spooky3
(34,442 posts)in the first place.
DBoon
(22,363 posts)maybe put out feelers to other states willing to subsidize their relocation
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)bluestarone
(16,926 posts)Then say when the repubs come to their senses, they will go back to original fares
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)Since the U.S. constitution specifically prohibits bills of attainder, that is a bill which sanctions a person or entity rather than a specific behavior or action, taken together with their public statements that they want to get Delta?
What do you think?
unblock
(52,205 posts)the proposed tax break was really just a typical, corrupt payout to a local company that effectively lobbies politicians.
from a business perspective, delta messed up the timing; they really should have waited until georgia passed the tax bill, including the big break, before saying anything.
in any event, delta doesn't have any particular constitutional right to legislators passing a tax break that vastly disproportionately would have benefited them over any other georgia citizen or business.
that's not to say the politicians involved weren't horrible corrupt themselves, it's a ludicrous shakedown. but delta can't really use the courts to fight back.
i expect delta to fight back by shifting its campaign contributions to punish a few selected politicians.
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)Since the stated purpose of this legislation is to punish Delta it is still unconstitutional.
unblock
(52,205 posts)they *were* going to give delta some favoritism and decided against it.
delta ends up getting treated like anyone else, so it's hard for them to show constitutional injury.
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)Then I would argue that it is punitive to give something in the first place if it can be taken away for vindictive reasons.
unblock
(52,205 posts)it made it into a draft of the bill but they took it out of the final version.
i'm totally with you that what these politicians did is horribly corrupt. it's just that delta was asking for something corrupt themselves, and can't really make a legal case that they're entitled to their corruption.
delta can move out of atlanta and/or stop contributing to the politicians behind these shenanigans. but they can't really sue over not getting special treatment even if it was revoked corrupt reasons -- after all it was being contemplated for corrupt reasons in the first place.
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)It was my impression that the Georgia legislature was repealing existing legislation, are you saying this is not the case.
unblock
(52,205 posts)and had planned on inserting a big break on jet fuel for delta as part of it.
in retaliation against delta, they dropped the intended tax break for jet fuel and then passed the rest of the tax bill.
sl8
(13,749 posts)From https://www.taxrates.com/blog/2018/02/14/georgia-governor-champions-sales-tax-exemption-jet-fuel/:
Other airlines would also benefit from the proposed exemption, since fuel is the second highest input for airlines. Sean Williams, vice president for state and local government affairs at Airlines for America, says the exemption could draw more flights to Atlanta. He notes that North Carolina saw a 4 percent increase in flights in the first year after removing its sales tax.
Georgia should be familiar with the effects of a sales tax exemption for jet fuel. After Delta filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2005, the state exempted a qualifying airline (Delta) at a qualifying airport (Hartsfield-Jackson) from 1 percent of the state sales tax on jet fuel. It extended the temporary exemption three times until 2012, when it made it permanent. However, the exemption was then repealed effective July 1, 2015.
There have been at least two attempts to partially restore the sales tax exemption for fuel since then, though both failed to gain traction. In 2016, HB 898 sought to exempt from any state or local sales and use tax aviation fuel purchased by a qualifying airline at a qualifying airport. Tax would be collected on 20 percent of the fuel purchased, as that was deemed to be consumed in the state. Fuel consumed outside of the state would be exempt.
A less generous measure was proposed in 2017. HB 145 sought to partially exempt jet fuel from state sales and use tax (local sales and use tax would still apply). Qualifying airlines at qualifying airports would not have to pay state sales tax on 55 percent of the jet fuel purchased to travel out of state. State tax would be collected on the remaining 45 percent.
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More at link.
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)If you give something and take it away.....(see above)
onenote
(42,700 posts)It would have benefitted Delta more than other companies simply because Delta buys more jet fuel in Georgia than any other airline.
While I get that it's obnoxious that the state government would "punish" Delta because of their decision to stop offering an NRA discount, I'm surprised that so many people here suddenly are big supporters of tax cuts for large corporate entities.
The original tax exemption was granted when the airlines were barely staying in business after 9/11. It hung around until 2015 despite the airlines recovery and was repealed. But in a Trumpian-like fervor for handing out goodies to corporations, the state was about to give them back the tax break, even though it wasn't needed like it was when it was originally adopted.
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)I haven't looked at the specific provisions of the bill, but it singles Delta out, then I imagine Delta's legal team is already on it and the federal courts will have to answer the question of the scope of bill of attainder or whether this action violates any existing laws governing interstate commerce.
So, once again the judicial branch will have to contemplate the constitutional questions attendant with another extremist law passed by the GOP at a state level. The spew of mean-spirited, right-wing extremist legislation in GOP-controlled states is an epidemic.
On a more fundamental level, the use of legislative power to leverage the tax authority for vindictive and punitive purposes against entities both private (as in Delta) and public (e.g., Blue states) is clearly a central GOP strategy at both federal and state levels. Have Democrats done the same?
onenote
(42,700 posts)TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)onenote
(42,700 posts)Any more than the tax breaks Trump pushed through at the federal level for big corporations.
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)The fact that they are doing it as a form of retribution against an entity (Delta airlines) for taking a legal action (choosing not to partner with the NRA) it is a bill of attainder and is therefore unconstitutional.
onenote
(42,700 posts)While it will impact delta more than other airlines because they buy more fuel in the state it doesnt single out delta or subject them to a law that doesnt apply to other airlines.
TranssexualKaren
(364 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:45 PM - Edit history (1)
It doesnt need to be in the text of the bill, you need only prove intent.
onenote
(42,700 posts)In 2010, Congress passed a continuing resolution to fund the government that contained the following provision:
None of the funds made available by this joint resolution or any prior Act may be provided to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now ACORN, or any of its affiliates, subsidiaries, or allied organizations. At the time, members of the house were accusing ACORN of voter registration fraud.
In ACORN v.US, the Second Circuit rejected a claim that this constituted a bill of attainder. The court cited the Supreme Court's three part test for a bill of attainder -- (1) specification of the affected persons, (2) punishment, and (3) lack of a judicial trial." The first and third prongs were not contested, but the court concluded that denying a corporate entity a government appropriation was not a "punishment" for purposes of the Bill of Attainder clause.
In the case of Georgia not giving Delta a tax break that wasn't given to anyone else either, two of the prongs fail: lack of specificity and lack of punishment.
But maybe you have more experience with Bill of Attainder cases and can point me to a case that would support the claim that the refusal of Georgia to give any airline in the state a tax break is a bill of attainder.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)?
Weed Man
(304 posts)We're cancellling all the contracts and will be moving out of Atlanta shortly.
Good luck Georgia, you're going to need it.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)However it would be a massive undertaking & probably the grandest bluff-call in history.
This should be interesting.
I'm cheering for "Leave!"
sl8
(13,749 posts)Maybe this year will be different.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)A lot of voters. Go after these pukes, the best way we can. Beat them at the ballot box. I would think this may resonate with working people.
Initech
(100,068 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)I'd start laying off some of those GOP constituents.
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)Who would have thought?
Initech
(100,068 posts)The GOP would have impeached, indicted, imprisoned, and popped the champagne. God they are assholes.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Andrew Cuomo
✔
@NYGovCuomo
.@Delta, if Georgia politicians disagree with your stand against gun violence, we invite you to move your headquarters to New York.
Ralph Northam
✔
@GovernorVA
Hey @deltaVirginia is for lovers and airline hubs. You're welcome here any time.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Both occupy a big chunk of Hartsfield Jackson. How would that even work?
There was never any legislation that singled out Delta in any way.
They were going to give all airlines a tax cut on jet fuel purchases. Delta buys more than anyone else there, so they would have benefited more.
But now they didnt pass the tax cut.
OneBlueDotBama
(1,384 posts)Delta owns their own refinery, Trainer in Penn, they bought it from Phillips in 2012.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)BiminiTwisted
(102 posts)Good job GOP.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)Exactly what repugs seem to complain about often.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)Locate here. Delta bought out Northwest, whose hub was Mjnneapolis.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Denver & Mpls
pwb
(11,261 posts)Delta could charge customers a surcharge and call it the republican gun lovers tax.
onetexan
(13,037 posts)it doesn't lose either way. But i do think Delta has grounds for this being unconstitutional and can sue the state. Even if they don't win, they can buy time while lawsuit is being litigated. In the least, to make a point for the state not to screw the company again.
samir.g
(835 posts)kacekwl
(7,016 posts)over the policy on another corporation ? What does that have to do with the state of Georgia ?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... I'm guessing that the tax breaks on fuel were likely intended to encourage OTHER airlines to schedule more flights into/out-of Atlanta.
I'll bet that this does not harm Delta in any way.
But it does tell me a LOT about the Georgia Senate... and it's not very flattering at all.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)send each hourly employee a memo stating the government of Georgia won't let us give any raises this year.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)One would think that a company who brings as much tax revenue & jobs to GA as Delta would be King.
But we all know who the real King is. Wayne and all his fellow minions.
onenote
(42,700 posts)A lot of folks are suggesting Delta should retaliate and go somewhere where they'll get tax breaks. Really? Are we now supporting more tax breaks for big corporate entities?
The jet fuel tax exemption has a long and somewhat checkered history. It was first adopted in the early 2000s when the airlines were struggling. By 2015, the airlines had recovered enough that the legislature voted to eliminate the exemption, which raised more revenue for the state's general fund, some of which was earmarked to help schools. The FAA, however, ruled that jet fuel tax revenues can't be put in a state's general fund, but can only be used for limited purposes relating more directly to air transportation. With that in mind and with the Trumpian theology of cutting taxes for big corporate entities having prevailed at the federal level, the state legislature considered reinstating the jet fuel tax exemption. They ended up not doing so in a fit of NRA-sucking up pique. But the fact that they reason they didn't reinstate the tax break was fucked up doesn't make giving a big corporate entity an exemption good policy.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)take away other corporate giveaways....this is a good start.
Does Delta have a "fuel surcharge", because that would be laughable.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)oops
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)n/t
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)nycbos
(6,034 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)Maybe the company needs to look into that.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)A tax break is what is bringing ''Hollywood'' to GA; make no mistake about it.
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)paleotn
(17,912 posts)we're ready if you are.....
Nashville
Greenville / Spartanburg
Jacksonville
Charlotte
Austin
Piedmont Triad
Raleigh / Durham
Memphis.......
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Use their Citizens United-authorized corporate personhood campaign contribution authority to endorse every Democrat running for office in the State of Georgia.