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alp227

(32,023 posts)
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 06:48 PM Jan 2012

‘Morning-after pill’ advocates take their case to Obama’s science adviser

Advocates for unfettered access to the “morning-after pill” Plan B One-Step took their case to President Obama’s chief science adviser Friday, asking him to find out the basis for the administration’s controversial decision last month to continue requiring that young girls get the drug only by prescription.

In brief presentations wedged into a meeting of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, five experts decried Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’s rejection of the Food and Drug Administration’s move to make Plan B available completely over the counter.

“We are asking you to work with us .?.?. to readdress this decision, find out how it was made and why,” Wayne C. Shields told John P. Holdren, the chairman of the council. Shields is president of the Association of Reproductive Health Professionals, a trade organization with offices in Washington.

In her allotted two minutes of public comment, Francesca T. Grifo of the Union of Concerned Scientists quoted the HHS secretary’s Dec. 7 letter that rejected FDA’s plan to make Plan B available to girls younger than 17 without a prescription.

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/morning-after-pill-advocates-take-their-case-to-obamas-science-adviser/2012/01/06/gIQAigY8gP_story.html

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‘Morning-after pill’ advocates take their case to Obama’s science adviser (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2012 OP
Good. k&r uppityperson Jan 2012 #1
HOlding feet to fire. This is good. I'm so glad. CTyankee Jan 2012 #2
I'm as liberal as they come. Believe that or not. But I agree w/ Obama's decision. GusFring Jan 2012 #3
First of all, some girls may suffer extreme retaliation from parents. alp227 Jan 2012 #4
There are other ways to get prescriptions than going to parents. A young girl MUST be supervised KittyWampus Jan 2012 #15
without any scientific data backing that decision up? CTyankee Jan 2012 #5
Really? You'd want youngsters to have this available with no supervision whatsoever? Really? KittyWampus Jan 2012 #16
I would hope they would come to me and let me know, of course. CTyankee Jan 2012 #17
Why should the parents know? n/t Humanist_Activist Jan 2012 #6
Maybe because the pill may have health risks that can't be hidden? alp227 Jan 2012 #7
Such as? (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2012 #9
side effects include... alp227 Jan 2012 #10
More detailed list of the side effects is cstanleytech Jan 2012 #13
I also think it could make kids not use condoms and that could cause more health issues GusFring Jan 2012 #12
So, if a father wants to rape his 16 year old, he wouldn't need a prescription? boppers Jan 2012 #8
If a 16 year old is raped, she needs help. But you'd prefer she just take a pill and let the abuse KittyWampus Jan 2012 #14
I did not state a preference. boppers Jan 2012 #18
k&r n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #11

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. HOlding feet to fire. This is good. I'm so glad.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 07:58 PM
Jan 2012

We in the progressive community will get NOWHERE hiding from what we (may mistakenly) believe is politically OK. We must be BOLD. Put our demands on the record. Step up. Speak out.

We would do well to take a lesson from the gay rights movement! Why the hell don't we?

 

GusFring

(756 posts)
3. I'm as liberal as they come. Believe that or not. But I agree w/ Obama's decision.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 10:09 PM
Jan 2012

Why do people want underage girls being able to access this w/o their parents knowing? ANd that's exactly what would happen.

alp227

(32,023 posts)
4. First of all, some girls may suffer extreme retaliation from parents.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 01:24 AM
Jan 2012

Second, do you really think most conscious, thinking girls under the age of consent really are thinking of having sex? And look at the consequences of abstinence only education. Obviously teen pregnancy hasn't been stemmed.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
15. There are other ways to get prescriptions than going to parents. A young girl MUST be supervised
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jan 2012

by someone. If not a parent then a medical professional.

Suppose she's got an ectopic pregnancy? She never goes to a doctor or clinic but takes a home test, finds it positive and then just goes ahead and takes the over the counter pill?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. without any scientific data backing that decision up?
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 03:07 AM
Jan 2012

This is pure politics because it is an election year. I am certain that this was "focus grouped" and found to be unpopular with ordinary folks. However, the FDA should not be guided in their medical decisions in the field of public health, by what the polled masses have to say about it.

I have 3 granddaughters and I would want them to have Plan B available to them. I would have said the same when my daughters were under age 17...

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
16. Really? You'd want youngsters to have this available with no supervision whatsoever? Really?
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jan 2012

That means no trip to a doctor for an exam.

What happens if its an ectopic pregnancy?

This is about children and the need for medical supervision.

Allowing children access without requiring some sort of oversight by a responsible, qualified professional is never going to happen.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. I would hope they would come to me and let me know, of course.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jan 2012

And I have known of an ectopic pregnancy where the parents of the teen didn't know. That is a problem of communication, for sure.

I am not sure, though, that what was envisioned was not without some oversight, such as the dispensing pharmacist. At least that was my understanding of what was actually being proposed.

alp227

(32,023 posts)
10. side effects include...
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:07 PM
Jan 2012

"nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, dizziness, breast tenderness, tiredness and weakness, headache, menstrual changes, and diarrhea." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levonorgestrel#Side_effects)

see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_contraception#Side_effects

It is debatable whether women really died because of birth control.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
13. More detailed list of the side effects is
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jan 2012

from http://www.drugs.com/sfx/levonorgestrel-side-effects.html

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue; unusual hoarseness); absent menstrual period; breast discharge; breast lumps; calf or leg pain, swelling, or tenderness; change in amount of urine produced; chest pain or heaviness; confusion; coughing of blood; dark urine; fainting; mental or mood changes (eg, depression); migraines; numbness of an arm or leg; one-sided weakness; pale stools; persistent, severe, or recurring headache or dizziness; persistent vaginal spotting; severe pain or tenderness in the stomach; shortness of breath; slurred speech; sudden severe headache or vomiting; swelling of the fingers, hands, legs, or ankles; unusual or severe vaginal bleeding; unusual tiredness or weakness; vaginal irritation, discharge, or change in secretions; vision changes (eg, sudden vision loss, double vision); yellowing of the skin or eyes (with or without fever).

To bad though because if was as safe as a condom (unless of course you are allergic to latex) then it probably would have gotten an ok to be sold to those under 17.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
14. If a 16 year old is raped, she needs help. But you'd prefer she just take a pill and let the abuse
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

continue? Or maybe Daddy will just magically stop raping her.

And btw, suppose pregnant 16 year old takes a home test to find out she's pregnant, takes the pill but the pregnancy is ectopic? Because of your warped reasoning she can end up in the emergency room when the tube finally erupts.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
18. I did not state a preference.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:48 AM
Jan 2012

Not sure what you think my reasoning is, I merely posited a possible consequence.

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