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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:10 AM Apr 2018

140,000 Arizona residents werent sent voter ID cards, official calls it a little hiccup

Source: Think Progress

PHOENIX, ARIZONA — As residents of Arizona’s eighth congressional district cast ballots in a special election to replace former Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) in Congress, roughly 140,000 of them may be unaware they are eligible to vote because they did not receive the ID card the county is required to send them after they register.

According to the Arizona Republic, Maricopa County officials have not sent all voters the cards they can use to cast a ballot under Arizona’s voter ID law because of an issue with the company used to print the materials. The paper reports that just 60,000 ID cards have been mailed to people who recently registered or changed their registration, while about 140,000 have not been sent.

Adrian Fontes, the county recorder who oversees elections in Maricopa County, told ThinkProgress on Monday that he’s not concerned with what he sees as a “little hiccup in printing.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/arizona-residents-missing-voter-id-special-election-46a8facaf58f/



I wonder what Adrian Fontes would think if he did not get his voter ID card....................would he be concerned ?

It appears that every election cycle this shit is occurring more and more.................they demand people to have the registration and the cards, but when they fail to do there fucking job its just a "hiccup"




November 2018 cannot get here fast enough
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140,000 Arizona residents werent sent voter ID cards, official calls it a little hiccup (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2018 OP
Are the hiccups mostly with Democratic voters? IronLionZion Apr 2018 #1
140,000 voters!!!???? Wow, someone in IT needs to get fired!!!!!! nt SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #2
Why are you blaming IT? SnowCritter Apr 2018 #6
God, you must be an IT person... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #8
God, you must be "Management". ThoughtCriminal Apr 2018 #18
I was, both in IT and mgmt for 35 years, when the IBM360s were around and ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #19
Yeah that description ThoughtCriminal Apr 2018 #21
Not IT's fault padfun Apr 2018 #12
I think part of the problem here is that no one entity seems to have ownership of the whole project. LisaM Apr 2018 #15
How convenient jpak Apr 2018 #3
Adrian Fontes is a Dem marybourg Apr 2018 #5
Well, Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #4
DEMS need to file a law suit IMMEDIATELY sdfernando Apr 2018 #7
agree!! onetexan Apr 2018 #20
The error has been happening since DECEMBER!! riversedge Apr 2018 #9
70% is not a hiccup Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #10
"Pffftt...a little hiccup." BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #11
I think this is just a prelude to what is coming... padfun Apr 2018 #13
Been screwing around with this printing Company since Dec and still NOTHING?? WTF?? Bengus81 Apr 2018 #14
ATTENTION ARIZONA VOTERS! NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #16
Voter Suppression Plain And Simple PaulX2 Apr 2018 #17

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
1. Are the hiccups mostly with Democratic voters?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:13 AM
Apr 2018

or Hispanic and Native American voters?

Do these little hiccups help Republicans right before special elections? Maybe bigger hiccups before the general election in November?

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
6. Why are you blaming IT?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:32 AM
Apr 2018

It's not normally IT's job to print and mail documents - that's a function of some end-user or group of end-users. IT's job is to make sure that the technologies work like they're supposed to.

So you have to ask - did the technologies involved in collecting the data and disseminating the cards work previously? If so, the problem doesn't lie with IT. If not, then was the problem reported to IT? If the problem was reported to IT then, yes, the IT director should be called on the carpet to explain why things aren't working like they're supposed to.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
8. God, you must be an IT person...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:53 AM
Apr 2018

IT is responsible for ensuring that jobs work too, though. Usually it's IT that discovers the problem when a batch of items that go out (at least in my IT shop that's how it worked). If we discovered that one of our clients (of IT) did something to cause the undesired results to occur (or if the client of IT discovered the undesired results, they should of went back to IT to fix). I wasn't putting the blame solely on IT. IT deals w/ lots of entities within an environment and usually doesn't work in a vacuum.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
19. I was, both in IT and mgmt for 35 years, when the IBM360s were around and ...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:55 PM
Apr 2018

hardly anyone else was in IT...

padfun

(1,786 posts)
12. Not IT's fault
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:19 PM
Apr 2018

"But because of an error by the company used to print the ID cards, they have not been mailed out since December". Blame it on the Printing Company or on Procument who signed a contract for said company. Usually this would be Business Services, or Management Services. Large Organizations have specific duties for specific Units.

but it is also OK to blame IT as we got blamed for everything. Even if it wasn't our company who fucked up.

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
15. I think part of the problem here is that no one entity seems to have ownership of the whole project.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:05 PM
Apr 2018

When projects are outsourced to different companies (and here it sounds as if there was more than one), then each one assumes it's finished when its portion of the job is done.

I don't like outsourcing for many reason, and here's a clear example of one of them - too many moving parts. If the government agency was well funded enough to take care of everything in-house, this kind of thing wouldn't happen. Someone would realize that there was still a step left.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Well,
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:32 AM
Apr 2018

You get busy..... There is someone selling Girl Scout Cookies.... You forget..... You have to consider where you want to go on vacation this year... Things Happen.... Lunch comes up and then there is afternoon break and before you know it 140K ID cards get forgotten.

Jeepers it was just a little hiccup........

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
9. The error has been happening since DECEMBER!!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:29 AM
Apr 2018




...“It’s not that big of an impact on voters because we have redundancies in our system,” said Fontes, a Democrat who took office in 2016 after he campaigned on a promise to fight voter suppression and expand the right to vote in a county notorious for voting issues. “Every voter already got either a ballot in the mail or they got a sample ballot in the mail.”

Fontes added that people who don’t have the voter ID card should not be turned away from the polls Tuesday if they have other forms of acceptable ID.

The Arizona Republic published information guides for voters who have not received their cards in the mail.

CREDIT: Screenshot

Arizona was one of the first states in the country to enact a non-photo voter ID law when a ballot measure was approved by voters in November 2004. Under the law, the state must take steps to ensure that all eligible voters have an acceptable form of ID. According to the secretary of state’s office, “a county recorder must issue a voter ID card to any new registrant or an existing registrant who updates his or her name, address or political party preference.”

But because of an error by the company used to print the ID cards, they have not been mailed out since December.........................

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
11. "Pffftt...a little hiccup."
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:18 PM
Apr 2018

"Nothing to worry about, folks. It only affects twice as many voters as the number that could have flipped the last Presidential election. We're fine with it."

padfun

(1,786 posts)
13. I think this is just a prelude to what is coming...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018

You can bet that Republicans are planning how to win in both 2018 and 2020. And on each of those elections there will be tons of people who couldn't vote.

Democrats seem helpless on figuring how to stop cheating. The Republicans will figure out new ways to alter vote counts and they will get away with it, once again.

And nothing seems to be going on to fix the Russian hacking. In fact, Repugs refuse to sign agreements against using hacked info. And if we don't fix that, we will lose again.

There is a serious systemic flaw in our system.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
14. Been screwing around with this printing Company since Dec and still NOTHING?? WTF??
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:31 PM
Apr 2018

And this is nearly the end of April. Hiccup my ass! The Democrat em "overseer" is blowing this off like no big deal??

Oh sure...you can still vote IF you happen to have other "acceptable" forms of ID. Watch what happens when you get there.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
16. ATTENTION ARIZONA VOTERS!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:10 PM
Apr 2018

You DO NOT NEED a voter ID card to vote. You do need some form of identification, which doesn't have to have a photo. Yes, it's bad that the state failed to send them out because it creates needless confusion, but REPEAT! YOU DO NOT NEED A VOTER ID CARD issued by the state in order to vote.

Go vote! Make sure you have some kind of ID and you'll be fine. Don't let anyone tell you differently.

Do it, Arizona!

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