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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:07 PM May 2018

Giuliani: Trump reimbursed Cohen for $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels

Source: The Hill

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) said Wednesday that President Trump reimbursed his personal attorney Michael Cohen the $130,000 paid to adult film star Stormy Daniels to stay quiet about their alleged affair.

Giuliani, who recently joined Trump’s legal team, told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that the payment was “perfectly legal” and was “not campaign money,” meaning the arrangement didn’t violate campaign finance law.

“Funneled through a law firm, and the president repaid it,” Giuliani said.

"He didn’t know about the specifics of it but he did know about the general arrangement, that Michael would take care of things like this," he said.

Cohen has said that he made the payment, but that it was made with money out of his own pocket.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385965-giuliani-trump-reimbursed-cohen-for-payment-to-stormy-daniels?__twitter_impression=true

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Giuliani: Trump reimbursed Cohen for $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels (Original Post) Mrs. Overall May 2018 OP
He's filth. He's scum. He's disgusting. He's dirty. He represents truthisfreedom May 2018 #1
Trump or Giuliani? n/t lordsummerisle May 2018 #7
Yes. Doitnow May 2018 #30
:D C Moon May 2018 #38
LOL. Exactly. PatrickforO May 2018 #48
Now, to be fair ... left-of-center2012 May 2018 #8
SURE Rudy Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #2
Even FOX recognizes that this is a HUGE mistake... brooklynite May 2018 #3
Here is a little secret Laura, tRump wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit him in the @$$. CentralMass May 2018 #12
OMG ! Trump lied ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #4
Avenatti (Stormy Daniel's lawyer) on Lawrence O'Donnell right now saying "I am speechless." Mrs. Overall May 2018 #5
This differs from the Dennis Hastert cash flow in what way, exactly? bucolic_frolic May 2018 #60
Gaaad. If only I didn't have to hear its voice or see it spout lies. Then I'd believe in heaven! erronis May 2018 #62
Comedy of Errors 2018 mia May 2018 #6
When the book is finally written about this era Docreed2003 May 2018 #9
What about the millions watoos May 2018 #33
Well they fall under that banner don't they? Docreed2003 May 2018 #41
Too bad title "Confederacy of Dunces" has already been taken. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #61
Trump Administration aka Lie Factory djacq May 2018 #10
Trump paid Cohen to pay a porn star to sign a NDA that she would not comment on a sexual encounter Freethinker65 May 2018 #11
"Lettuce Spray.' 😆 sprinkleeninow May 2018 #40
Another Brick in the Wall thbobby May 2018 #13
They are trying to keep Cohen from flipping. RDANGELO May 2018 #14
Sounds more like damage control Major Nikon May 2018 #17
Yep. They had to do this GusBob May 2018 #20
We shall certainly see how it plays🎶 out. And soon please. sprinkleeninow May 2018 #45
Countdown to Giuliani out of the WH and under the bus in 10-9-8-.... Hekate May 2018 #15
"I barely knew the guy, OK? He got us coffee" John Fante May 2018 #19
Interesting choice of words he used: "Funnelled through..." subterranean May 2018 #16
Especially when an anonymous LLC was at the end of the funnel. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #18
They funneled thru a tunnel. 😅 sprinkleeninow May 2018 #39
Remember, Cohen claims he only "facilitated" the payment while IllinoisBirdWatcher May 2018 #26
+1 dalton99a May 2018 #27
That makes it an undisclosed campaign expenditure. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #21
Holeee Shit! SCVDem May 2018 #22
Sure matt819 May 2018 #23
Melina and Dotard's pre nip ... IggleDuer May 2018 #24
So in the same interview he admits Trump has been lying Major Nikon May 2018 #25
It's entirely possible to have more than one liar Retrograde May 2018 #32
Keep talking, Rudy dalton99a May 2018 #28
I spent decades of my life playing opera all over the world fierywoman May 2018 #29
👍 sprinkleeninow May 2018 #42
I suspect Guiliani will come out tomorrow and say he was just speculating. still_one May 2018 #31
Rudy already watoos May 2018 #34
no doubt. This is the creep that Time Magazine said was "Person of the Year" still_one May 2018 #43
OH, please, please, PLEASE! BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #35
i wonder if melania will testify against trump rdking647 May 2018 #36
Ari Melber--The Feds now have everything from Michael Cohen's office. Do they have something that riversedge May 2018 #37
That cartoon nails it dalton99a May 2018 #44
It was reported tonight on CNN with Done Lemon and Avenatii turbinetree May 2018 #46
Giuliani just confessed to Trump's guilt on live national television. DesertRat May 2018 #47
Excellent work, Rudy Jailiani. Only the best. Hassler May 2018 #49
So what does this mean? Kablooie May 2018 #50
LOL Cohen was complaining about needing the money, so Rudy Historic NY May 2018 #51
Hold on, now just wait a minute. safeinOhio May 2018 #52
Did Trump also pay Cohen for handling the cover-up of his sex with Stormy? Sophia4 May 2018 #53
So Giuiani's job is mob-splaining Cheeto's criminal acts? pecosbob May 2018 #54
So was it an unreported illegal campaign loan or an unreported illegal campaign donation? Marcuse May 2018 #55
That's why Rudy makes the big bucks. JohnnyRingo May 2018 #56
Placing bets on how long Ghouliani lasts. A full Mooch? Half Mooch? flibbitygiblets May 2018 #57
Rudy statements makes Trump into a liar. Rudy has only been on the job for a few days. UCmeNdc May 2018 #58
Waffling lying snakes all of them bucolic_frolic May 2018 #59
They're scum. They're liars. And this might work. WhoWoodaKnew May 2018 #63
This is my favorite part of what Giuliani said: rsdsharp May 2018 #64

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
1. He's filth. He's scum. He's disgusting. He's dirty. He represents
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:10 PM
May 2018

the precise state of the pure hypocrisy of the Christian right.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
48. LOL. Exactly.
Thu May 3, 2018, 12:13 AM
May 2018

These men are BOTH pond scum.

Boy, talk about the swamp. We can smell their filth from here.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
5. Avenatti (Stormy Daniel's lawyer) on Lawrence O'Donnell right now saying "I am speechless."
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:12 PM
May 2018

Saying this opens up money laundering and bank fraud by Trump and Cohen.

OUCH!

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
60. This differs from the Dennis Hastert cash flow in what way, exactly?
Thu May 3, 2018, 06:56 AM
May 2018

Clearly they have been trying to fix up this thing after the fact. Lying and obfuscation and fudging. If you believe them, he both knew about it and didn't know about it, made the payment and did not make the payment.

Follow the money and don't read their lips

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
9. When the book is finally written about this era
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:17 PM
May 2018

It should be called "The Audacity of Lies"...cause these fuckers lie with abandon, they lie about lies and they lie to cover up lies and they just expect the public to not pay attention to the lie because they've lied so much about the original lie...ugh, someone pass the booze or popcorn or Motrin or weed...shit, all of the above!

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
41. Well they fall under that banner don't they?
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:25 PM
May 2018

Or should it be called "The Audacity of Lies and the Fools who Believe Them?

Freethinker65

(10,017 posts)
11. Trump paid Cohen to pay a porn star to sign a NDA that she would not comment on a sexual encounter
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:17 PM
May 2018

A sexual encounter between Trump and the porn star when Melania was pregnant that never happened, that Trump previously claimed he had no knowledge of any money being paid by anyone and was entirely a witch hunt??
Let us pray.

You cannot make this shit up.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
13. Another Brick in the Wall
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
May 2018

Thou shall not lie. Evangelicals are exposing their non-Christian values for all to see. I wonder (no, I know) how they will react if trump is shown to have pressured and paid a woman to get an abortion.

This shit would be funny if it were not so disgusting. The women that trump has used and damaged is appalling.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
14. They are trying to keep Cohen from flipping.
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
May 2018

This would mean that Trump is guilty instead of Cohen for the illegal contribution. Who knows what the real truth is. I guess they are figuring that if this is the worst he charged with, he will take it, but it's a long shot.

That may be the reason for the question leaks, giving Cohen one more hail Mary by saying he can't get a fair trial because of all the leaks.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. Sounds more like damage control
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:30 PM
May 2018

The FBI has Cohen’s bank records so perpetuating the lie was going to become untenable eventually anyway.

Sounds more like part of a scheme to leave Cohen as the one without a chair when the music stops.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
20. Yep. They had to do this
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:37 PM
May 2018

Everyone is making a parade about it, but they had to do this, it was an illegal campaign contribution otherwise.

So they did it their way.

None of this matters to Trump supporters. Avanetti says ' Americans should be outraged'

A huge swath of America is OK with porn stars, Russia, the constant lying, because a black guy ain't president anymore

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
15. Countdown to Giuliani out of the WH and under the bus in 10-9-8-....
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
May 2018

I hope when it happens the bus rolls back and forth several times.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
16. Interesting choice of words he used: "Funnelled through..."
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:24 PM
May 2018

Most of the time I see that phrase used when someone was trying to hide the source of the money.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
26. Remember, Cohen claims he only "facilitated" the payment while
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:48 PM
May 2018

denying that the tRump campaign and/or tRump companies made the payment while conveniently not mentioning whether or not tRump himself made the payment which now seems to be true.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
29. I spent decades of my life playing opera all over the world
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:58 PM
May 2018

with the most amazing performers, amazing productions. I suddenly understand why I can't stop checking the news -- this scenario is the most operatic thing I've ever lived through!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
35. OH, please, please, PLEASE!
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:15 PM
May 2018

Tell me Rudy has some reasons convincing enough for Pee Diddle to keep him on the team. If he sticks around, RM and his crew can take a well-deserved week or two off and let him build their case for them.

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
37. Ari Melber--The Feds now have everything from Michael Cohen's office. Do they have something that
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:19 PM
May 2018

The plot thickens. Good question.


Ari Melber
?Verified account @AriMelber

The Feds now have everything from Michael Cohen’s office.

Do they have something that’s forcing Trump’s lawyers to admit he’s behind the Stormy Daniels payment, after all his public denials.







turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
46. It was reported tonight on CNN with Done Lemon and Avenatii
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:56 PM
May 2018

that payments were made in this case and that laws were broken and they are felonies ...............Clifford's attorney nail's it.................

and the public needs to know that the "White House is Lying"...................and anything that this lying white house says is a lie....................................

isn't that the truth................


Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
50. So what does this mean?
Thu May 3, 2018, 12:56 AM
May 2018

Cohen said he paid from his own pocket and wasn't reimbursed.

Trump said he didn't know anything about it.

Giuliani says Trump reimbursed Trump.

It's screwed up but does this mean anything more than there are a lot of lies?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
51. LOL Cohen was complaining about needing the money, so Rudy
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:03 AM
May 2018

admits that Trump paid him back for the trist. Thanks Rudy.

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
52. Hold on, now just wait a minute.
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:27 AM
May 2018

I'm sure Sarah Huckabuck will straighten this all out at tomorrows presser.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
53. Did Trump also pay Cohen for handling the cover-up of his sex with Stormy?
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:46 AM
May 2018

How much money did Trump pay Cohen that was related to the whole matter.

Was the work on the Storm agreement just part of Cohen's work on his salary from the Trump organization? Was it personal work for Trump, and did Trump pay for it in some way that was separate and not part of the pay Cohen received from the Trump company or companies?

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
56. That's why Rudy makes the big bucks.
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:17 AM
May 2018

I also wouldn't want to be in the room while Giuliani is cleaning his gun.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
57. Placing bets on how long Ghouliani lasts. A full Mooch? Half Mooch?
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:06 AM
May 2018

Not looking too good for the latest of the "best people".

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
58. Rudy statements makes Trump into a liar. Rudy has only been on the job for a few days.
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:53 AM
May 2018

WTF? Pure comedy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
59. Waffling lying snakes all of them
Thu May 3, 2018, 06:31 AM
May 2018

appreciate the ambiguity:

"He didn’t know about the specifics of it but he did know about the general arrangement"

So he both knew and didn't really know ... this is fudging. A law school flunkee wouldn't be ok with this statement.

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
63. They're scum. They're liars. And this might work.
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:40 AM
May 2018

They made up this entire story and it just might work. This BS about monthly payments and Trump being in the dark is all a lie.

rsdsharp

(9,170 posts)
64. This is my favorite part of what Giuliani said:
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:12 AM
May 2018

"That was money that was paid by his lawyer, the way I would do, out of his law firm funds or whatever funds, it doesn’t matter. The president reimbursed that over a period of several months.”

Rudy, if you are paying settlements out of "law firm funds," and then getting reimbursed by the client "over a period of several months(?)" you are committing an ethics violation. You can pay the settlement out of your trust account, but you cannot front the money. The client pays you, you deposit it in your trust account, wait for it to clear if it was by check, and THEN AND ONLY THEN, can you pay out to the other party.

Do it the other way, and your trust account will be overdrawn. I don't know about New York, but in Iowa we have to certify to the Supreme Court annually that our trust accounts have not been overdrawn, and if they have, you have to explain why. In addition, the trust accounts are subject to periodic surprise audits.

And why was it reimbursed over a period of months? Supposedly $130,000 is pocket change to Trump. Why didn't he just write a check for the amount? Were they trying to avoid the $10,000 amount that triggers reports to the government? That's a crime called structuring. You can go to jail for that -- ask Denny Hastert. Trump tried to explain it in a tweet as a monthly retainer, but he apparently doesn't understand what the word means.

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