Bill Clinton says impeachment process over Russia probe would be underway if Democrat were in office

[PatrickforO]

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Former President Bill Clinton said that impeachment hearings would have begun if a Democratic president, instead of Donald Trump, were in power and the Russia investigation was as far along as it is now.

"I think if the roles were reversed -- now, this is me just talking, but it's based on my experience -- if it were a Democratic president, and these facts were present, most people I know in Washington believe impeachment hearings would have begun already," Clinton told "CBS Sunday Morning."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/03/politics/bill-clinton-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

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Right he is. If a Dem were in the WH and Republicans controlled both houses, impeachment would be in progress whether there was a crime or not.

But Republicans have a different take on the law in terms of whether they should have to obey. They believe they are above the law.

[Freethinker65]

1. Begun already? The GOP vowed to lock Hillary up on day one

[dalton99a]

2. +1

[lagomorph777]

35. Underway? NO - complete, and the criminal trial and execution too.

[Matthew28]

3. Sadly, this is very true

Republicans can commit outright treason against this country and nothing...

[saidsimplesimon]

4. President Clinton

speaks with authority and truth on this subject.

Mitch McConnell declared his roll as speaker was to focus on President Obama and make him a one term President, Mitch failed. his party failed. Let's reverse the tables and reveal that The Affordable Care Act benefits the majority. It was a gift to those struggling to pay for health coverage. imo

[Iliyah]

5. It would have happened already.

Then the GOPs would go after the VP which would leave Lying Ryan.

[csziggy]

6. Before Obama was a Senator the GOP registered ImpeachObama.com

"ImpeachObama.com" Was Registered Before Obama Was Even A Senator (2004)

TrustMeIKnow
posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 01:54 PM

whois.domaintools.com/ImpeachObama.com was registered on 2004-07-15

Is it just me or is this just a bit weird. Has anyone ever been projected to be President this early on in their political career? I mean, he had even less experience at the time then after his Senate years...

Keep in mind that I have no preference on who is the President of the U.S., though I think for social reasons, Obama was the correct choice. So I am not advocating Obama actually be impeached.

As well, I am aware of "Name Squatters"; those who purchase domain names waiting for it to be worth their while at some point or another.

More: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread412632/pg1

[Sophia4]

8. Obama's charisma was evident to anyone watching.

And from very early on.

And charisma is required if you want to get elected.

You have to be a person people just automatically like even if you are simply in a crowd and don't speak to them.

Bill Clinton had charisma.

[csziggy]

9. No argument about that - but to set up a site for impeachment before he even held a national office?

Somebody was ready far in advance to push impeachment before any possibility of a crime existed.

While normal, sane people love Obama, the right wing nut fringe was prepped to hate him far in advance. No wonder he had to be so careful and could not get as much done as he hoped - they were looking for an excuse to pounce on him. He never gave them that chance at the expense of some of his plans.

[Sophia4]

23. One word: racism.

Obama was the victim of racism.

[SergeStorms]

12. Well, the fact that Republicans....

think being Black is an impeachable offense would explain that.

[FakeNoose]

32. Maybe they filed a different name in the original filing

I don't know if it's possible to do this, maybe someone on DU can confirm. Can someone file the name as (for example) "www.impeachclinton.com" in the original name, and then later change it to "www.impeachobama.com"? It's possible the date 2004 doesn't reflect a later name change.

Certainly in 2004 the RWNJs were already gearing up for a Hillary Clinton run, sometime down the road.

[csziggy]

34. No, once you register a domain name, that is it

You can attempt to register a new domain name, but you can't change a previous one.

As for paying for hosting a domain name, that is adjustable. You can change out whichever domains you want on the same web space and account.

[Sophia4]

7. I agree.

Let's take back the House and Senate.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

10. You know it

[SergeStorms]

11. I love 'ya Bill, but.....

that's pretty much a "duh" statement.

[blue-wave]

13. You're damn right Bill

and please, to steal a paraphrase from the Truman era: "It's time to start giving them hell, Bill." Don't stop. The stinking republicons are nothing but hypocritical traitors.

[orangecrush]

14. Give 'em hell, Bill!

K&R!

Dear God, I miss that man!

[ladym55]

15. And water is wet

I love you, Bill, but this is pretty obvious.

The Rethugs are sitting on their hands (and the ones with a few tiny shreds of character left are running screaming for the exits) because they are COMPLICIT. They are ALL up to their necks in Russian influence. They wanted power, and they played with Vlad. He got them into power, but now he owns them.

Putin wants an unstable west, and boy, howdy, does he have one now.

[KPN]

17. Winning post!

[The Hitman]

16. So why isn't it?

Why is Dem leadership not pushing harder for impeachment? Or demonstrations in the streets? I think we are putting too many eggs in the midterm elections basket, especially as our voting systems remain vulnerable.

[Xipe Totec]

18. You're kidding, right?

You need to be in the majority in order to initiate impeachment proceedings. Dems can huff and puff all they want, but until the speaker of the house let's it happen, it won't happen. And he happens to be a Republican so no freakin' chance.

[The Hitman]

22. That didn't stop the GOP

For making up bullshit during 09-10, and voters rewarded them with the House (and a huge majority).

Why are none of our candidates talking about Russia? This is the biggest scandal of all time.

[sharedvalues]

30. Of all time. Yes. It's a corruption and anti-American scandal.

The president courted America’s enemies to hurt the country so he could make money. Bribery and corruption is what this is about. Chinese trademarks, Jared’s huge loan from the UAE, making money off the bribery hotel in DC - this is corrupt.

[bitterross]

19. That's an odd position for someone who's been lurking here so long to take.

You've been lurking around here since 2009. Have you not read the wealth of information on why it is strategically bad for us to talk about impeachment?

It's a terrible idea to play into 45's rhetoric and make impeachment a mid-terms issue. Rallying his base is not a good idea.

We do need to focus on simple to understand issues. Like:

1. Trump just fucked you with the tariffs and the GOP let him
2. The GOP and Trump fucked you with the tax cut for corporations and the 1%
3. The GOP and Trump caused your health care premiums to go up by trying to dismantle ACA (Obamacare)

And other items like that.

[The Hitman]

20. I'm just not so sure I agree with that

I think we should start calling him the T word.

I agree with Tom Steyer's approach and wish the elected Dems were more vocal about this. We are the frog getting boiled here.

[The Hitman]

21. Also

I lurked from 2002-09, before I registered

[sharedvalues]

29. Also he's a traitor who is getting bribed by China, UAE, etc.

The corruption and bribery is also a winning case.

Along with the tax cut (“The Republicans just put a $3 trilllion tax cut on a credit card. You just put $30k on a credit card and gave that money to the Koch brothers. They’re laughing at you because they think you’re stupid and a sucker for voting to cut THEIR taxes.”) which is also a big winner of an issue.

So, both. Economics and criminality. We can do both. And GOTV too.

[murielm99]

24. Are you kidding me?

We don't have the votes. Why impeach if we can't throw him out of office? That would be a futile gesture. If we campaign on impeachment, it will energize the repiggies to keep their people in office. Demonstrations in the streets? Have you been living underground? There have been countless demonstrations in the streets.

We need to GOTV for the midterms. It is our chance to take back at least one house of Congress. Are you blind? We have more candidates than ever, and the voter registration and GOTV efforts are going strong in places that have been moribund and discouraged for years.

If we don't get everything we want at midterms, we keep working.

You are a hitman all right. Stop bashing the Democratic Party. Don't whine. Go do some work instead.

[The Hitman]

25. I didn't whine.

Read what I said. I asked why we weren't deploying a particular tactic.

[sharedvalues]

28. We need to repeat facts on corruption and link to impeachment

The problem is that Dems are not sufficiently telling the country about his crimes: corruption, meeting Russians, and that several of his high level officials are under indictment.

Much of the country doesn’t know these things. When they know these things, impeachment will be on the table.

Dems need to FIRST make the case that we have a corrupt president who is damaging the country. And then talk about impeachment. So, both. And while they make that case to the media- we get out the vote!

[murielm99]

36. Of course the Democrats are telling the country

about his crimes. Our leadership is speaking up and showing up on the news. Often, the opposition does not listen. They watch Fox News and that is all.

We are making the case for impeachment and the election of a Democratic majority.

What is it with this word I am seeing more and more on DU? "The Dems?" We are Democrats, not Dems. We are the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party.

[The Hitman]

37. This X 10000

Every time any elected Democrat is on TV the words "Trump Tower Meeting With The Russians" should be used.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

26. Yes.

:They need this election to maintain their agenda.

[sharedvalues]

27. Which implies our media is in effect pro-Republican

Our media would be criticizing Hillary and forcing impeachment.

Our media is not criticizing Trump in the same way they would be criticizing any Dem, and not forcing impeachment.


The truth is obvious- for whatever reasons, we have a media which is effectively conservative-biased.

[duforsure]

31. I agree

What the Republicans don't understand is the next trump like elected president by illegally being installed could be a Democrat , and be much worse for them too. It works both ways, but President Clinton is right, a Democrat would be prosecuted at once, but only of they held a majority, which very soon they won't. So Republicans would have no power, or very little without a majority, which they're losing fast now.

[Honeycombe8]

33. He's right. I can't wait for history to judge. And all the movies...

showing these turncoats and traitors for what they are.