Giuliani Says Trump Won't Agree to Interview Unless Mueller Can Prove He Has Evidence POTUS...
Source: Mediate
Giuliani Says Trump Wont Agree to Interview Unless Mueller Can Prove He Has Evidence POTUS Committed a Crime
by Tamar Auber | 9:00 pm, July 6th, 2018
President Donald Trumps lawyer Rudy Giuliani has shifted strategies in the Russian probe yet again, according to a new report by the New York Times.
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According to the Times:
His declaration was the latest sign that the presidents lawyers, who long cooperated quietly with the inquiry even as their client attacked it, have shifted to an openly combative stance.
Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/giuliani-says-trump-wont-agree-to-interview-unless-mueller-can-prove-he-has-evidence-potus-committed-a-crime/
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,097 posts)Let's say Muehler capitulates and shows evidence, not only would Trump continue to refuse to meet with Muehler, but Trump would use the information to announce that the entire investigation is bogus.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)It was "Infrastructure week", I think.
underpants
(182,800 posts)Great point.
I also remember that Trumpsters said they had been avoiding Giuliani because he was drinking too much. Go with your first instinct always.
George II
(67,782 posts)mahina
(17,652 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,160 posts)Like a bank, are they too big to fail?
Chickensoup
(650 posts)The legal position he is taking is
befitting a mafia boss not a president.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)all the proof needed will be printed very clearly on the WARRANT for the Con's arrest. I wuld love to see them both marched out of the WH in handcuffs, along with Princess Ivanka and Beavis and Butthead.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)is not covered by "executive privileged"
even a harden conservative supreme court will uphold this or the political backlash would be a tsunami
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Nobody whispering in your ear, nobody stopping you from making a mistake.
But hey, it can be arranged if that's what you want, Cheeto.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)For a few weeks....but trump will be in front of the grand jury sooner or later if crimes been committed before he was sworn in.
zanana1
(6,113 posts)to avoid his testimony and to assure him that the investigation goes nowhere.
SamKnause
(13,103 posts)Fuck Trump.
Republicans are EVIL FUCKING LIARS !!!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)He can't get. He's a idiot, and getting even funnier every time he opens his mouth. Again the opposite of his previous statements and claims they were fully cooperating with Mueller , when the truth is they haven't all along. Remember trump saying that, and claiming (lying) he wanted to talk to Mueller, when he was scared to death about talking to Mueller, and has brought up excuse after excuse not to , and had his parrot lawyer repeat his phony claims. This is all about PR propaganda from trump and his minions.
Chickensoup
(650 posts)with our entire system of government
and get away with it.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)crooks run as (R)'S, to avoid criminal prosecution. They stick together. A (D) president with all this baggage would have been impeached long ago. When will the deplorables wise up?
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)fake evidence and let them run with it. You catch liars by lying to them. Liars depend on all others to be honest, and Trump has a well established track record of mendacity and perversion of the truth. Giuliani should have stayed retired, then again he and Trump belong together, just not holding the levers of power, and preferably in a restricted institution.
47of74
(18,470 posts)As I've said before if there's any justice in the world so many Republicans will be going to prison that they'll have to add a few dozen Republican wings on at ADX Florence.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)the gop made sure of that!!
Snellius
(6,881 posts)An absurd demand. Which Giuliani knows will not be accepted. He's using the concern of a perjury trap to cover not taking the 5th on real crimes. To respond gives him the choice of confessing or lying under oath. Just a rhetorical rephrasing of what Giuliani has been proposing all along. Just a pr move to pre-justify why Trump will not agree to be interviewed. I think Mueller really has some hard evidence on Trump.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)As both a strategy and a talking point, this is pretty dumb.
I suppose next they'll be howling that there is no evidence.
But funny enough, Justice doesn't care about their squirming BS.
dlk
(11,566 posts)He has no intention of cooperating, ever! The Marshals will have to drag him off in handcuffs.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)Yeah, we did it, but prove what "it" is, what you got, and then we talk. 1 - they want the info so they can make up lies to rebut it ahead of time (Mueller is not dumb, they are idiots for continuing to treat him that way) 2 - They want to know how much of it they found out so drumpf can be coached about how to lie. Sounds to me like he's totally afraid of drumpf lying to the FBI, and truly with good reason since drumpf is a liar, criminal and traitor.
Snellius
(6,881 posts)In other words, talk now or wait until just before midterms. Good move, Mueller.
keithbvadu2
(36,796 posts)Forget it! Rudy/Donald will just come up with more excuses for not meeting.
No matter what Mueller might give them, it will always be more excuses.
keithbvadu2
(36,796 posts)See Donald giving away the farm and Kim making more excuses/stories.
american_ideals
(613 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)If I'm investigating a crime and I already have evidence the perp did it, I don't need to interview him. I just bust him.
Snellius
(6,881 posts)Of course, he's just setting up his excuse to say "See, I offered a deal but you won't play along. Not fair. Not my fault."
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)If Mueller has evidence of a crime he needs to just indict trump and let the legal battle begin about if a president can be indicted or not.
Nitram
(22,800 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Several months ago a key witness to the Russia investigation popped up at Mar-A-Lago.[1] James Woolsey is a former CIA Director that served under 4 administrations and was on Trump's transition team. He later resigned from his position as a senior adviser due to Trump's undermining comments about the intelligence community.[2]
James Woolsey pitched a $10 million contract to Turkish businessmen to discredit a controversial U.S. based Turkish cleric while he was an adviser during Trumps campaign.[3] James Woolsey has been interviewed by Special Counsel Mueller, they discussed Flynn's alleged Turkish scheme.[4]
Now how was Woolsey roped into Trump's campaign? Well he has ties to a Trump protege, Mark Brown, who ran Trump's Atlantic City casino empire.[5] A casino in Saipan was visited by the FBI back in March of 2017 and is an alleged conduit for laundering money, both Woolsey and Brown are 2 board members.[6]
Reza Zarrab, the aforementioned Turkish-Iranian national, recently plead guilty to charges of conspiring to avoid US sanctions.[7] Turkish President Erdogan wants Reza Zarrab released as he know Erdogan's financial secrets. The second Turkish individual Erdogan wanted was Fethullah Gulen - he is the Turkish cleric hiding in the United States, the same cleric that the Trump campaign tried to discredit and the same cleric that Erdogan and the Turkish government are after for drummed up charges. Erdogan's allies allegedly offered Flynn a $15 million deal to kidnap Gulen. While the kidnapping plan made headlines all over the media it was only 1 of 2 topics Flynn discussed with his Turkish counterparts during their meeting. The second topic was, allegedly, discussing the release of Reza Zarrab who is being tried by the United States government for conspiring to violate sanctions.[8]
We know that Zarrab plead guilty to the charges he faced and is now cooperating with American authorities.[9] Around this time Flynn's lawyer broke communication from Trump's legal team, indicating that Flynn was ready to cooperate with Special Counsel Mueller.[10] We know that Flynn's lawyer had met on a Monday morning with members of Special Counsel Mueller's team, another indication that he was ready to cooperate.[11] And then he pleaded guilty to lesser charges, a significant development as it indicates that he is fully cooperating with the investigation.[12]
1) Business Insider - A key witness in the Russia probe had a 'lengthy conversation' with Trump at Mar-a-Lago
2) Washington Post - Former CIA director James Woolsey quits Trump transition team
3) Reuters - Exclusive: While advising Trump in 2016, ex-CIA chief proposed plan to discredit Turkish cleric
4) NBC - Ex-CIA Director Spoke to Mueller About Flynns Alleged Turkish Scheme
5) Bloomberg - Big Money, Big Questions at Trump Protege's Remote Casino
6) Bloomberg - FBI Visits Office of Saipan Casino Run by Trump Protege.
7) New York Times - Reza Zarrab Testifies That He Bribed Turkish Minister
8) Lawfare - Why Turkey Cares about the Trial of Reza Zarrab
9) The Independent - Turkish businessman's Iran sanctions guilty plea opens door to cooperation in Robert Mueller's Michael Flynn investigation
10) CBC - Michael Flynn's lawyers break with Trump's legal team
11) ABC News - Michael Flynn's lawyer meets with members of special counsel's team, raising specter of plea deal
12) New York Times - Michael Flynn Pleads Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I. and Will Cooperate With Russia Inquiry
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comments by Poppin, 7/7/2018 much Thanks!
In events surrounding Zarrabs trial, interactions between the U.S. government and Turkish officials raise rule of law questions for the United States. Erdogan has taken a strong personal interest in Zarrab, discussing him on multiple occasions with the Obama and Trump administrations. He demanded Zarrabs release and Bhararas firing in a meeting with then-Vice President Biden in 2016, while his wife pleaded the case to Bidens wife. Erdogan raised Zarrab in his final phone calls with Obama in Dec. 2016 and Jan. 2017. It was a topic of discussion between Erdogan and Trump as well. Following a September phone call, Erdogan said Trump told him the case in New York was not under his jurisdiction.
Eyebrows have been raised over connections between the Zarrab case and the Trump administration. In March, Trump fired Preet Bharara, the U.S. District Attorney who brought the indictment against Zarrab. (Attorney General Jeff Sessions asked 46 U.S. attorneys to resign. Bharara refused, noting Trump had asked him after the election to remain. Trump called Bharara; he declined to answer, citing rules against sitting attorneys talking to the President. Trump then fired him.) The case has continued under Bhararas former deputy and current Acting District Attorney, Joon Kim.
Also in March, Zarrab made changes to his legal team. He hired Rudy Guiliani, an informal Trump advisor, and Michael Mukasey, a former Attorney General. These lawyers met with Erdogan and senior Trump administration officials in search of a diplomatic solution. Guiliani described his role in a deposition as determining whether this case can be resolved as part of some agreement between the United States and Turkey that will promote the national-security interests of the United States and redound to the benefit of Mr. Zarrab.
In addition, there are questions about Michael Flynns possible involvement. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, is exploring Flynns Turkish activities. Flynn, a Trump campaign advisor and briefly U.S. National Security Advisor, was allegedly offered $15 million to return Gulen to Turkey. Mueller is reportedly examining whether Flynn also discussed ways of freeing Zarrab from court charges.
enid602
(8,616 posts)I'm going to remember that defense the next time I get stopped by a traffic cop.