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Snellius

(6,881 posts)
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:48 PM Jul 2018

McCain to Trump: Cancel meeting if you won't hold Putin accountable

Source: The Hill

GOP Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) said on Friday if President Trump isn't prepared to hold Russian President Vladimir Putin "accountable" for aggression toward the United States then he should cancel their meeting next week.

"President Trump must be willing to confront Putin from a position of strength and demonstrate that there will be a serious price to pay for his ongoing aggression towards the United States and democracies around the world. If President Trump is not prepared to hold Putin accountable, the summit in Helsinki should not move forward," McCain said in a statement.
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McCain added on Friday that the indictments were the latest in a "body of evidence confirming an extensive plot" by Putin's government to influence the election and "sow chaos and dissension" within America.

"Despite repeated warnings from our nation’s top intelligence and military leaders, the Kremlin's efforts to weaken our institutions have continued unabated with insufficient action taken by the administration or Congress to strengthen our cyber defenses, safeguard our election systems, and deter further destabilizing activities," he said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/396952-mccain-to-trump-cancel-meeting-if-you-wont-hold-putin-accountable

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McCain to Trump: Cancel meeting if you won't hold Putin accountable (Original Post) Snellius Jul 2018 OP
Somebody's gonna get shit-talked at the next hate rally! flibbitygiblets Jul 2018 #1
Hey Meghan, listen to your father dalton99a Jul 2018 #2
She's in a tough spot because her father-in-law works for Trump DesertRat Jul 2018 #20
Oh John. Why pretend we don't know what is clear as day? Maven Jul 2018 #3
The whole party is in Pootie's pocket thegoose Jul 2018 #4
There are a few who aren't, but damned few, and yeah I can count them on my fingers/one hand, hmmmmm still_one Jul 2018 #6
Or half a finger! thegoose Jul 2018 #12
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jul 2018 #13
Maybe why Repubs so upset with Strzok. Not just defending Trump but themselves. Nunes? Snellius Jul 2018 #8
Little doubt about it, imo. elleng Jul 2018 #9
So how are they hooked? $$$s, drugs, sex, blackmail, promised dachas in Siberia? erronis Jul 2018 #14
I happen to think the Russians have brought GOPers under their sway using both a carrot and a stick. Maven Jul 2018 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author True Blue American Jul 2018 #19
Trump needs to come home with extraditions C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #5
Of course he won't hold Putin accountable NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #7
ahh McCain, trump is going to meet with putin to COLLABORATE AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #10
In trump's other ear: "it doesn't matter" "he's dying anyway." PSPS Jul 2018 #11
In response to this: Sophia4 Jul 2018 #15
John where did you say this? irisblue Jul 2018 #17
Senator, rewarding Putin is the whole idea! bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #18
He understands it. janx Jul 2018 #21
I have a question here leftieNanner Jul 2018 #22
You can bet the GRU will have it all on tape. And if we have a mole in the GRU. Bingo. Snellius Jul 2018 #23

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
1. Somebody's gonna get shit-talked at the next hate rally!
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:53 PM
Jul 2018

Remember when certain people were off-limits for shit-talking?

--The disabled
--The terminally ill
--Gold Star Families

Way to class up the joint, MAGAts.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
3. Oh John. Why pretend we don't know what is clear as day?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:44 PM - Edit history (1)

He's compromised. An asset of the Kremlin.

This charade of bewilderment about the reason for his actions is getting tiresome.

still_one

(92,185 posts)
6. There are a few who aren't, but damned few, and yeah I can count them on my fingers/one hand, hmmmmm
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jul 2018

maybe one finger

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
8. Maybe why Repubs so upset with Strzok. Not just defending Trump but themselves. Nunes?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jul 2018

Is this why Nunes walked out?
Devin Nunes Walks Out Of Hearing When Questioned About Russia Probe
https://www.inquisitr.com/4982671/devin-nunes-walks-out-of-hearing-when-questioned-about-russia-probe/

Wish the tables were reversed yesterday and have Strzok and the FBI interrogate them. Would bet many of them know more about the involvement of their colleagues that they are afraid to tell.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
14. So how are they hooked? $$$s, drugs, sex, blackmail, promised dachas in Siberia?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jul 2018

How has the pute and his mobsters so well controlled the shills?

I can imagine any/all of the titular items, but there may be some more interesting ones.

Someone like McConnell is probably not too motivated by sex and probably has enough non-reported $$s stashed to carry on. I don't know about Ryan (vis-a-vis sex) but he'll have enough to spend on quality time with his family. Neither of these or any other critters have learned to speak Russki (that I know of) so some forest bungalow doesn't seem reasonable.

Blackmail is the most probable since every neo-repug has been tainted.

But the KGB/FSB is well known to work with various drugs to control friends and enemies. Maybe there is a brain parasite that makes rats no longer fearful of their predators.....

Maven

(10,533 posts)
16. I happen to think the Russians have brought GOPers under their sway using both a carrot and a stick.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)

The carrot being money in the form of cash, loans and loan forgiveness. Lately they've also thrown in a little, uh, help with the electoral process.

The stick being kompromat. The money itself is kompromat, because by accepting it you make yourself susceptible to blackmail. But there is likely plenty of other material they can use. We know that the RNC was hacked by the FSB/GRU and yet none of their material was released. Yet.

Response to Maven (Reply #16)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. Of course he won't hold Putin accountable
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jul 2018

He's going to Russia to beg for help in the midterm elections because the polls are looking bad.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
10. ahh McCain, trump is going to meet with putin to COLLABORATE
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jul 2018

not to confront. You really should know better but we forgive you because you are terminally ill.

PSPS

(13,593 posts)
11. In trump's other ear: "it doesn't matter" "he's dying anyway."
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

That aside, it's pathetic to think that McCain has anything worthwhile to say, what with his worn-out rubber stamp he gleefully and reliably used to support a criminal like trump.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
15. In response to this:
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jul 2018

"McCain added on Friday that the indictments were the latest in a "body of evidence confirming an extensive plot" by Putin's government to influence the election and "sow chaos and dissension" within America."

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/396952-mccain-to-trump-cancel-meeting-if-you-wont-hold-putin-accountable

When I read Seth Abramson's summary of the indictment filed today, I thought the scheme looked like moves in a chess games.

Did anyone else have that eerie feeling of an almost choreographed, step-by-step chess master at work.

The scheme was well coordinated and planned.

I wonder whether the Republicans have actually read the indictment carefully.

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
17. John where did you say this?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:12 PM
Jul 2018

Spokesweasle?
Faxed comment?
John, you & your wife got way past enough $ to hire a primo medical team & a medical plane & physicall assistance aides.
You roll into the Senate to speak this, it.means something.
Otherwise it's just electrons in the internet, ink on paper, today
It will not help your legacy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
18. Senator, rewarding Putin is the whole idea!
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jul 2018

Either McCain doesn't understand it, or he's pretending he doesn't

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
22. I have a question here
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:09 PM
Jul 2018

Don't we have somebody like M from James Bond who can create a tiny microphone that can be sewn into Ass Face's suit or droopy neck tie so that we can listen in on his meeting with Vlad?

I'm a tiny bit serious about this.

And John, we appreciate your saying this, but you have been a completely compliant supporter of Trump and the current Republican mess, so just shut up. K?

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
23. You can bet the GRU will have it all on tape. And if we have a mole in the GRU. Bingo.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:18 PM
Jul 2018

Unless, of course, the GRU has a mole with us. But now we're talking about deep deep state.
Wow, the Cold War is back. New Bond adventures for the 21st Century. It just never ends with these guys. They live for it.

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