Day care owner gets probation for trying to kill child
Source: Associated Press
Updated 5:37 pm CDT, Monday, July 16, 2018
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) A Minneapolis day care owner was sentenced to 10 years of probation for trying to kill a toddler in her home by hanging him from a noose.
Forty-three-year-old Nataliia Karia was sentenced Monday after earlier pleading guilty to attempted murder and third-degree assault. She also pleaded guilty to criminal vehicular operation for hitting a pedestrian, a bicyclist and another driver as she fled from her home in a minivan in November 2016.
The Star Tribune reports Karia must follow court-ordered mental health treatment and will be on electronic home monitoring for at least two months.
According to the complaint, a father was dropping off his son at the home when Karia led him toward the basement, where he saw the toddler hanging from a noose. He released the child and fled with him. The 16-month-old boy survived.
Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Day-care-owner-gets-probation-for-trying-to-kill-13080017.php
Earlier story:
Day Care Owner Charged with Attempted Murder Pleads Not Guilty in Case Where Child Found Hanging
June 07, 2017 03:54 PM
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The owner of an in-home day care facing attempted murder, assault and criminal vehicular operation charges in connection with an incident last November when a 16-month old child was found hanging from the basement ceiling of her home has pleaded not guilty on all counts.
Nataliia Karia of Minneapolis entered her pleas in Hennepin County District Court Wednesday. She is being charged with second-degree attempted murder, third-degree assault of a victim under four and two counts of criminal vehicular operation.
According to the criminal complaint, a man was dropping of his 3-year-old son at the day care on the 2700 block of Humboldt Avenue South on Nov. 18 when Karia told him she couldnt take it anymore and brought him to the basement.
There, he heard a baby crying and saw the 16-month-old boy hanging from a noose. The man rescued the child and left the day care. The man then called his wife, who called police and drove to Karias house to care for the other children until officers arrived, according to the complaint.
More:
http://kstp.com/news/nataliia-karia-minneapolis-day-care-not-guilty-plea-16-month-old-found-hanging/4507180/
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)WTF?
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Can walk the streets as long as they get treatment? I know someone who spit on a cops boots in an alcohol blackout who got a more severe sentence with zero priors.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)The plea would have been "not guilty by reason of insanity." She just plead guilty.
Got an extremely lenient sentence, obviously.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)hit a man and dragged him for 10 blocks, hit a bicyclist and broke his leg and she gets probation?!?!?
How can this be?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)Top-Hat
(11 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)Let me go ahead and do a little bit of a breakdown for you here.
1) Yes, there are white people in prison. But the race of the defendant has been proven to be correlated with disproportionate sentencing for the same crime. Whatever the cause, it's simply there in the math.
2) Responding to someone bringing up disproportionate sentencing with such an inane argument as "white people do get sent to jail too" will not likely be responded to very well.
Enjoy your stay!
Disproportionately, is real, but doesn't mean that one can simply ignore the particulars of each case and conclude the outcome of that case is a matter of race. That's not arguing "disproportionately." It's a blanket generalization made in the absence of case facts.
Top-Hat
(11 posts)Give it a rest.
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Business owners.
I watch a lot of True Crime, so quite a few names come to mind:. There's Dr. Martin MacNeil, a Utah doctor convicted of drowning his wife in a bathtub, Perry March, a lawyer who beat his wife to death, Dr. Clara Harris, a dentist who killed her husband by running her car over him, Lyle and Eric Menendez who killed their parents, Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald, who murdered his wife & two children, John List, insurance salesman from New Jersey.who wiped out his entire family, and these are just a few.
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)although everyone is entitled to legal counsel.
I'm not sure where we disagree.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Now THAT would make a difference. (sarcasm alert)
chowder66
(9,069 posts)There is more in the article about others not wanting her to spend her life in jail....
He told the court his mother hadnt been sleeping more than two hours a night in the weeks before. He said she expressed to him that shed had suicidal thoughts, but that going to the hospital could jeopardize her day care license.
http://kstp.com/news/defense-argues-for-lesser-sentence-for-daycare-owner-in-case-where-child-found-hanging-nataliia-karia-/4920062/
Chemisse
(30,811 posts)I'm glad they are focusing on treatment, but still keeping an eye on her.
chowder66
(9,069 posts)What a horrible situation for everyone. Seems like the family also were trying to do the right thing here.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)full time in a hospital setting -- especially if that hasn't happened already.
rocktivity
House of Roberts
(5,169 posts)She'd have had a better chance to keep her day care if she'd sought help first.
marble falls
(57,083 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)She tried to kill a child.
People need to know she is somewhere far away from access to killing their children.
You think she should be allowed to pursue her hobby of hanging toddlers by their necks?
Chemisse
(30,811 posts)I can't even fathom what it would be like to be swimming in a swirl of psychosis, completely out of touch with reality and overtaken by terrifying thoughts and impulses. And then to be treated and pull out of that awful place in their minds and realize what they had done. Horrific.
There but for the grace of the gods go I.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)That is who I feel sorry for.
Not her.
Not at all.
Up to the point she tried to murder a small child empathy.
Yes.
After.
NO.
Chemisse
(30,811 posts)Sadly, most people don't understand the lack of control one has when in the throes of a severe mental illness, and inevitably treat the ill person as if they sadistically planned and enacted a violent crime.
Imagine if you had an epileptic seizure and unknowingly kicked a child in the face during the seizure. When you woke up people were angry at you, and the police came and arrested you for assaulting a child.
That wouldn't happen because we all understand that you did not have control over your actions during the seizure. Severe mental illness is similar, yet there is no understanding or compassion.
It's easy to feel sad for that poor baby. It's also easy to recoil at the horror of what she did to him. It's a whole lot harder to imagine the plight of others to also feel badly for the sick woman who did it.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)at least while she's still sick.
That's really the beginning and end of it for me. I can't imagine why she wasn't confined to a mental hospital.
Chemisse
(30,811 posts)If only for a few months, until they are sure she is stable on her medicine.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I really can't imagine letting anyone immediately back into society immediately after an action such as hers.
chowder66
(9,069 posts)"You think she should be allowed to pursue her hobby of hanging toddlers by their necks? "
I'll wait.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)She is an OBVIOUS danger to others.
chowder66
(9,069 posts)After a two-hour hearing, Karia received a 10-year probationary sentence, with credit for the 20 months in jail. She also must follow court-ordered mental health treatment and electronic home monitoring for at least two months. She will live with her adult son but cannot have unsupervised contact with her daughters or other minors. Karias three other children are ages 2, 7 and 10, and child protection proceedings continue over her fitness as a parent.
In deciding against prison time, Quam agreed with the assessment by doctors that Karia was a low risk to reoffend. He called her actions the perfect storm of factors unlikely to ever be repeated. He said Karias was one of the hardest cases Ive ever had. ... There are no easy answers here.
http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-daycare-provider-who-hanged-toddler-from-noose-to-be-sentenced/488290231/
Also, if she breaks parole, she goes to jail for nearly 13 years.
Oneironaut
(5,494 posts)Its not a privilege (except for the white part), though. It means that society still doesnt take women seriously.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)or Clara Harris, a dentist who killed her husband? Jody Arias, for killing her boyfriend, Diane Downs who killed her children, Darlee Routier, sitting on death row for killing her son?.. There's plenty of them
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mainer
(12,022 posts)Because only immigrants from shithole countries are criminals.