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appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 04:16 PM Aug 2018

As Crews Battle Wildfires Across California, Gov. Jerry Brown Offers Grim View Of Fiery Future

Source: Los Angeles Times

38 mins. ago.

As fire crews struggled to gain containment on more than a dozen wildfires raging across California Wednesday, Gov. Jerry Brown told reporters that large, destructive fires would probably continue and cost the state billions of dollars over the next decade.

"The more serious predictions of warming and fires to occur later in the century, 2040 or 2050, they're now occurring in real time," Brown said at a news conference at the state's emergency operations center outside Sacramento.

State officials said more than 13,000 firefighters are currently on duty, fighting 16 large fires that have burned a total of 320,000 acres and displaced more than 32,000 residents. Seventeen states have offered assistance to California during the last week, sending help from as far away as Maine and Florida. Though the state has the resources now to combat the large wildfires, fighting them and keeping people safe will become harder, Brown said.

"Things will get much tighter in the next five years as the business cycle turns negative and the fires continue," Brown said. Brown, who met with top fire and emergency response officials, said the state would spend whatever is needed to combat the blazes. But he said that current conditions are part of a long cycle that began with the rapid rise in greenhouse gases caused by human activity...More...

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/as-crews-battle-wildfires-across-california-gov-jerry-brown-offers-grim-view-of-fiery-future/ar-BBLmMxO?li=BBnbfcL



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>Today, Calif. Governor Brown and officials report on wildfires. Aug. 1, 2018.
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As Crews Battle Wildfires Across California, Gov. Jerry Brown Offers Grim View Of Fiery Future (Original Post) appalachiablue Aug 2018 OP
He is right. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #1
Amen! Check out Gov. Brown's presser today, just posted above. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #3
He is a realist. That is who and what we need to run things BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #4
As predicted decades ago, Climate Change is advancing to horrible, undisputable levels. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #5
If only there'd been some intellectual framework that let us predict things like this! hatrack Aug 2018 #6
Fuck the the Space Force crap, snort Aug 2018 #2
We, the people, everywhere need to take action to force our governments Matilda Aug 2018 #7
Sorry to know about Australia's climate change and conserv. govt. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #9
Our species seems bent on self-destruction Bayard Aug 2018 #8
It certainly seems that way; lately I don't have much regard appalachiablue Aug 2018 #10

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
1. He is right.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 04:24 PM
Aug 2018

It is happening now, not later. Scandinavia, Siberia, Greece, and record high temps all over the planet. We can't stop it and it is too late to try to control it if 100% of the planet is not making a real, serious effort now.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
4. He is a realist. That is who and what we need to run things
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:09 PM
Aug 2018

In every city, state and in this country. The GOP is literally killing the country and its citizens via Climate Change denial, no affordable healthcare, no living wages, etc.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
5. As predicted decades ago, Climate Change is advancing to horrible, undisputable levels.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:21 PM
Aug 2018

"Climate Change In 'Real Time' California's Frightening Fires Are the Nightmare Scientists Long Predicted," July 31, 2018, Common Dreams.

Wildfires ravaging the state have "spawned bizarre pyrotechnics, from firenados to towering pyrocumulus clouds that evoke a nuclear detonation." As deadly wildfires continue to rage in California—destroying hundreds of homes, threatening thousands more, and forcing tens of thousands of residents to evacuate—experts believe the blazes are part of "the new reality" that climate scientists have warned about for decades.

"This past month shows climate change for real and in real time," The Fresno Bee declared in an editorial published Monday. The ferocious California fires, the Guardian reports, have "spawned bizarre pyrotechnics, from firenados to towering pyrocumulus clouds that evoke a nuclear detonation.

>>These events are not aberrations, say experts. They are California's future... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/07/31/climate-changein-real-time-californias-frightening-fires-are-nightmare-scientists



- Flames from the Carr Fire burn through trees & a road sign along a highway near Whiskeytown, Calif., July 27, 2018.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
6. If only there'd been some intellectual framework that let us predict things like this!
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:27 PM
Aug 2018

Some sort of system of objective, testable experimentation and confirmation that could, if properly harnessed . . . .

Hey! Look! Kim Kardashian made a sex tape!!!! OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!

Matilda

(6,384 posts)
7. We, the people, everywhere need to take action to force our governments
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:54 PM
Aug 2018

to stop pandering to corporate interests, especially in mining and oil, and start thinking of humanity.

We have similar forecasts in Australia, as our climate overall is very similar to California, but our Conservative government is too beholden to the big end of town to do anything meaningful about climate change. We are suffering severe drought in the rural areas, seas slowly rising in coastal areas, and our Great Barrier Reef, once considered one of the natural wonders of the modern world, is near death. And the politicians don't care, as long as the corporations continue to make donations to them.

In Australia, thinking people are in despair and very angry.

But what do we do?

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
9. Sorry to know about Australia's climate change and conserv. govt.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

I knew of the damage and decline of the Great Barrier Reef, but not as much about drought, sea level rise and upset people you mentioned. Thanks for the input, how can we move the people obstructing or denying the fierce reality now in our face.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
8. Our species seems bent on self-destruction
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:33 AM
Aug 2018

After we destroy all other species. By the time all people recognize this, will it be too late?

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
10. It certainly seems that way; lately I don't have much regard
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:49 PM
Aug 2018

for many in the human race, sorry to say.

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