WH Defends Trump's Grocery ID Claim: You'll Need It If You 'Buy Beer And Wine'

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Source: Talking Points Memo

By Nicole Lafond | August 1, 2018 2:00 pm

The White House defended President Donald Trump’s cryptic assertion that an I.D. is necessary for purchasing groceries, telling reporters Wednesday that Trump was talking about buying alcohol.

“If you go to a grocery store and you buy beer and wine, certainly you’re going to have to show your ID,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said when asked about Trump’s comments from the night before at a rally in Florida. She said he wasn’t talking about himself when he made the comment because Trump doesn’t drink alcohol.

“I’m pretty sure everybody in here who has been to a grocery store that’s purchased beer or wine has probably had to show their I.D. If they didn’t, then that’s probably a problem with the grocery store,” she said.

Link to tweet

Trump has been criticized for being out of touch since he made the comments on Tuesday night. A reporter even opened the line of questioning by asking “When was the last time the President went to a grocery store?”



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WH On Trump Fans Heckling Acosta: ‘The Media Holds A Responsibility’

By Matt Shuham | August 1, 2018 2:15 pm

After CNN’s Jim Acosta was loudly heckled Tuesday night at a Trump rally in Tampa, Florida, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said “while we certainly support freedom of the press, we also support freedom of speech, and we think that those things go hand in hand.”

That came in response to a question at the White House press briefing, where Sanders was asked about the heckling — which grew quite aggressive, according to video Acosta posted to Twitter, and spilled onto his broadcast.

“Is the White House willing to say right now, in view of what happened with one of our TV colleagues last night, that it is wrong for his most vocal supporters to be menacing towards journalists doing their jobs in a situation like that?” a reporter asked.

Sanders refused to condemn the yelling at Acosta.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wh-on-trump-fans-heckling-acosta-the-media-holds-a-responsibility

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. In a lot of states, including mine, you can't buy beer and wine at grocery stores.

So that's bullshit, but they know that. Because what Spanky said was this: “If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need ID. You go out and you want to buy anything, you need ID and you need your picture.” He wasn't talking about beer and wine; he was talking about groceries. He's probably never set foot in a grocery store in his life, kind of like George H.W. Bush who had never seen a price scanner before. But at least Bush didn't make up a lie about it.

[rsdsharp]

10. I'm 64 years old.

I have salt-and-pepper hair (what there is of it), a white beard and mustache. When the teen aged clerk asks for my birth date I either refuse, or tell them to make something up, which is what I would do. If I do give a date, it's something outrageous like 11/11/1918. They never blink an eye. They think I'm 99 but still have to check before selling me wine?

If the clerk asks for an ID, I ask for the manager.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. I haven't been asked for ID in many years. I kind of wish they would

so I could feel a little less old for a few minutes.

[rsdsharp]

15. Typically it only happens when a brand new clerk is at the register, having just been lectured about

how important it is to get ID.

Several years ago, however, I bought some groceries and a bottle of wine. I wasn't asked for ID. As I put the stuff in the car, I dropped the wine and broke it. I trooped back into the store for a replacement, whereupon THE SAME CLERK asked for ID. I pointed out that she had just sold me a bottle a few minutes ago, but that I'd show her an ID if she could honestly tell me she thought I was under 21. She didn't and I didn't.

[Aristus]

24. That seems a little harsh.

Why go off on someone like that for just doing his/her job?

If one doesn't know how awful "I want to speak to the manager" sounds when you're on the receiving end of it, one has probably never worked retail.

[LisaM]

54. Yeah, I agree.

I don't have a problem with being asked for ID. Some places have a policy of asking everyone.

[rsdsharp]

68. I spent three years and a summer working as a meat cutter/counter hop in a small grocery store.

I also spent a year as a sales person in a jewelry store, and another year and a half as its manager.

I've worked retail. I don't "go off." I don't rant and rave, or otherwise make a scene. In the very rare cases when a manager is called, the clerk explains the situation and I say nothing. It isn't necessary; the manager can see that I'm over 21. There is, however, only so much BS I will tolerate.

[Aristus]

69. It's worth pointing out that the cashier is likely required to ask for ID, and failing to do so

can get him/her written up. We should all reserve our ire and anger for the people who employ them, underpay them, treat them poorly, take them for granted, and require stupid things of them.

[rsdsharp]

70. Actually, no, they are not "required to ask."

If they were, it would happen every time; it doesn't. Typically there is no issue. When there is, I'm usually asked for my birth date. Not an ID, but my birth date. They will accept ANY date, regardless of how far fetched, without proof, so long as it is more than 21 years in the past. This isn't protecting the store from potential illegal sale of alcohol to minors. It's window dressing that is a waste of time.

I do agree with you statement, other than to reiterate that I am not showing ire or anger toward the cashier. I simply refuse to play the game.

[ProfessorGAC]

72. Funny Story On That, VO

I'm in Knoxville for a convention. While i'm one of them professionally, not so much personality or personally.

So, i decide i'm just going to get take out and eat in my room the 4 days.

I go to a local gas station/convenience store to buy a 6 pack for my room.

Lady cards me. I'm right around 50 at that point, and when i was that age, the drinking law was 19, so i've been legal for 31 or 32 years at that point.

I show her the ID, and she says "Oh, i didn't need to ask you. But, i'm 81 and everyone looks to young to drink, to me."

Thought that was a pretty funny line by her.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

73. LOL! Pretty funny...

[Gore1FL]

25. I proactively show my AARP card. nt

[olegramps]

16. She is a obnoxious lying piece of crap just like her father.

[Docreed2003]

28. Lol...I know I'm going to be showing my age

But now I need to google George Bush and price scanners...lmao...that's priceless. I was ten when Bush was elected in 88, but I don't remember that gaffe. I do remember Quayle and "potatoe" and I vividly remember a few years later when Lamar Alexander, who had created an image of himself as a flannel shirt wearing "average guy" governor of Tennessee, was running for president and couldn't answer how much a gallon of milk cost!

[hughee99]

66. Delaware, RI and Alaska.

Those are the only three states where you can't buy beer at a grocery store by law. In Maryland, it varies based on locality.

There's another 10 states where you can get beer, but not wine.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/here-are-all-the-states-t_n_5710135.html

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

71. In Minnesota the only beer/liquor you can legally buy in a grocery store is 3.2 beer

which is disappearing rapidly. I've never actually seen it for sale in a grocery store because nobody wants to buy it any more. An interesting history of 3.2 beer (a/k/a goat pee) is here: https://www.twincities.com/2017/08/13/sales-of-3-2-beer-evaporate-as-the-low-alcohol-beverage-becomes-a-relic/

[hughee99]

74. Yes, a number of states have that restriction. And even in some states that allow the sale of beer,

they restrict the permits so much it's still rare to find a place that actually does sell it.

[aka-chmeee]

78. Kansas too, at least for beer.

Actually, I much prefer the 3.2 % beer to "liquor store"

[They_Live]

2. I haven't been carded in long time.

So they're lying again.

[StarryNite]

3. Out of touch!

For one thing, only people who could be under age need to show ID. Nice try though...NOT! Idiots!

[William Seger]

4. My theory

His nanny took him with her when she bought "groceries," and she paid with a check.

[Solly Mack]

5. Trying to cover up a turd with shit.

That's what they do. Spout shit. Spout more shit to cover up the first shit. When that doesn't work - spout even more shit.

[Ilsa]

39. LOLOLOLOL. I like that. Taking it. Please say yes. nt

[Solly Mack]

40. It's yours. :)

[gademocrat7]

6. Huckabuck has no credibility whatsoever.

She is a lying mouthpiece for Chump.

[mac56]

7. I would say "unbelievable" although it's not at all.

Voting is a right. Buying alcohol is a privilege. Equating the two is insulting.

[The Genealogist]

8. Pathetic

People get carded at grocery stores to buy alcohol, sure. And at convenience stores, bars, restaurants, big box retailers, or wherever people buy alcohol. He didn't mention alcohol, and her pathetic attempt at clarifying what he supposedly met deserves to be mocked.

[John Fante]

9. When was the last time sometime asked the 72-year-old Shitbag for his ID?

Or the toothless wonders at his rallies? I'm a youthful-looking 40-years-old and I only occasionally get carded.

Nice try, Suckabee. Your POTUS is an imbecile.

[muntrv]

11. Hey stupid! He said "groceries!" Not not "beer and wine!"

[Retrograde]

13. Depends where you are

New York grocery stores carded me the last time I tried to buy beer there (and I'm in my sixties). Montana didn't when I bought wine there last week (a surprisingly decent local vintage). Haven't been carded in California in decades, even when buying the hard stuff (which can be sold in grocery stores here).

Why can't this administration just admit it made a mistake rather than digging themselves in deeper?

[flibbitygiblets]

19. Trump Derangement Syndrome. Ask your doctor if "Treasonoff" is right for you

side effects may include compulsive truth-telling, common decency and self-awareness.

[Yonnie3]

14. He is misunderstood because he has the best words and uses them in an exact manner so that

only the most erudite of his listeners could possibly know the exact meaning of his words.

Keep polishing that turd Sarah, soon there will be nothing left to polish. There will just be a tiny speck of genius on the stable floor.

[marylandblue]

17. One.other problem with that defense

Grocery stores in New York do not sell alcohol.

[markses66]

45. They sell beer in supermarkets in NY

In Pennsylvania, however, they do not sell beer, wine, or liquor in grocery stores. If you want beer, you have to go to a bottle shop, where you can buy up to a 12 pack. If you want a quantity bigger than that, you have to go to a beer distributor. If you want liquor or wine, you have to go to a state store. Oh, but if you want 24 beers, and just want to get them at the bottle shop, you can buy a 12 pack, walk to your car, go back in, and buy another! Oh, Pennsylvania!

[Tucker08087]

59. Not in neighboring NJ.

No alcohol of any kind sold in NJ grocery stores. Our alcohol is sold only at “liquor stores.” To try to make it sound more folksy, some have Beer, Wine and Spirits in large letters, followed in small letters by “liquor store.”

[markses66]

63. I bought beer and wine in a Trader Joe's in Westfield New Jersey not three months ago

I'm not sure you're right about that.

[Tucker08087]

67. I'm sure it's the case here.

Maybe Trader Joe’s has a liquor license. I remember friends driving hours for Two Buck Chuck at Trader Joe’s. I always assumed they went over into PA. I suppose it could be county by county.

[flibbitygiblets]

18. What is the context here? Are we talking about buying groceries with food stamps?

I couldn't get past the goddamn pop-ups in that link, and I have way too much PMS for that nonsense.

Who is saying ID is needed for buying groceries and why?

[flibbitygiblets]

20. Never mind, I get it from the comments, it's about ID needed for voting.

Well, hey, one way to fix this mess is register online, have registration mailed to you, and VOTE BY F-ING MAIL.

[deurbano]

21. Tweet from the Vermont Secretary of State's account:

Link to tweet

For those who can't see tweets:

VT Sec. of State @VermontSOS

We’re strongly opposed to Shopper ID laws. There has been no evidence that grocery fraud occurs on a widespread basis, and restrictive Shopper ID laws only serve to prevent eligible shoppers from buying their groceries on shopping day.

5:35 AM - 1 Aug 2018

[titaniumsalute]

22. To buy beer and Wine

They are checking your FUCKING AGE not your name and address. WTF???

[rurallib]

23. Does Donnie's cocaine dealer demand an ID?

let's deal with something he's familiar with.

[riversedge]

26. ha ha. old lumpy, dumpy trumpy has to have Sarah finish his sentences for him ha ha

[torius]

27. Maybe he means to buy a wife?

[ffr]

29. Not even true for beer or wine. It depends on your age. How stupid do they think we are?

Don't answer that.

[marble falls]

30. Bullshit once again, I haven't shown an ID to buy beer or wine in thirty-five - forty years.

[benld74]

31. I LAST was carded when I was 16, and the legal drinking age was 21. I was STILL given the beer!!

[LuckyLib]

32. The eye-rolling in those "press conferences" must include most of

the reporters present. How do they put up with such BS time after time? I would not be able to keep my head from shaking having to take that stuff in on a regular basis.

[lapfog_1]

33. I haven't been carded for alcohol since I turned 30 - so f off idiots.

[left-of-center2012]

34. "You go out and you want to buy anything, you need ID and you need your picture."

From the linked article:

"... you want to buy anything,
you need ID and you need your picture"

[dalton99a]

35. Damn liar just keeps making shit up

[wolfie001]

36. Oh!!!! That's what the jackass meant! Ha ha.........nt

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Here in PA, they only recently (past couple years) started allowing beer/wine

in SOME select supermarkets - but they had to have a special liquor license usually reserved for "beer gardens" and must have tables and chairs for patrons to sit to enjoy their purchase.

Everything else can only be purchased at a state store (errr.... "Wine and Spirits Shoppes" )!

[markses66]

46. Wegman's probably threatened to pull their stores otherwise!

[BHDem53]

38. You can put

lipstick on a liar but she's still a liar.

[Ilsa]

41. In some backwards states, we have to show ID

for alcohol no matter how old we are.

Personally, I don't consider booze "groceries."

[murielm99]

42. They ask me my date of birth,

even though I will turn seventy this month. They are doing their jobs, doing what they are told to do, so I give my date of birth. No one has ever asked me for a picture ID.

I have been shopping in the same store for so long I can't even remember if they asked for a driver's license when I first wrote checks there.

[Izzy Blue]

43. Oh yes he did!

[link:|

[GusBob]

50. That is mean

And so delicious

[moondust]

44. Wrong. Not talking about specific items.

I saw it again today and he was speaking about "groceries" in general, not anything specific.

[truthisfreedom]

47. Shit for brains.

[pansypoo53219]

48. in WI, before i was legal i was not carded, but i guess most teens do not buy boxed wine.

[peekaloo]

49. Or cold tablets to make their meth.

[underpants]

51. What about Chuck-fil-a?

[TalenaGor]

52. the man doesn't do his own grocery shopping, let's be real..

He has no idea how it works

[Glamrock]

53. There is absolutely nothing these fuckers won't spin.

The presidunce could say the moon was made of cheese and they'd point to cartoons from the 40's and say ya know lots of people have believed the moon was made of cheese.

[thegoose]

55. And Orange asshole actually said

They need a picture or a card. So can I take in a family photo or the ace of spades and either one will work?

Fucking despicable moron.

[C_U_L8R]

56. Proceed, Trumpkins

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

64. Ok, but how old is 21 in Kenyan years?

The White House wants to know.

[olddad56]

57. I'll be 70 in about a month. I am so sick and tired of getting carded when I buy beer.

But, it their defense, I don't look a day over 69.

[ecstatic]

58. Maybe his supporters need ID to purchase meth making supplies

I only use credit nowadays and I'm never asked for ID, except maybe once in a blue moon when buying a cold medicine (not even sure which ingredient activates the scrutiny, but I think it has something to do with misuse or meth lab stuff?? ).

[Tucker08087]

60. I was told it was the amount.

My local pharmacy had a buy one get one sale. We all have terrible allergies, so I bought one daytime, one nighttime, and one children’s, and got one free of each. Apparently five is the point where they ask for ID. Up until that point, I didn’t even know that something could be made from those products. The lady said, “Yeah, kids are making drugs from those drugs.” I was so baffled by her response that I immediately went home and googled it. I’m probably on an FBI watch list now!

[ecstatic]

65. Interesting... Maybe that's what happened

when I last purchased. It's been so long that I'm not exactly sure how much I bought... I'm leaning towards just one item, but it's possible that I purchased more than one to ensure the best outcome--a day and night version, perhaps.

[SoCalNative]

76. If you buy any cold or allergy medication

that contains the decongestant pseudoepehdrine, you are required to show ID. That is federal law.

[olddad56]

61. why ID cards, why not tattoos or microchips implanted in your ear?

[jmowreader]

62. That would be the Mark of the Beast, dontchaknow?

[LanternWaste]

75. I kinda dig the way idiots are rationalizing her chickensh*t.

It's like watching creationists in an advanced geology course argue about "devil bones" put here by satan to confuse the innocent.

[3catwoman3]

77. Oh, FFS - he absolutely was NOT...

...talking about booze.

Getting vertigo from all that spinning, Sarah?