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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:48 AM Sep 2018

Dozens of elephants killed near Botswana wildlife sanctuary

Source: BBC

Carcases of nearly 90 elephants have been found near a famous wildlife sanctuary in Botswana, conservationists say.

Elephants Without Borders, which is conducting an aerial survey, said the scale of poaching deaths is the largest seen in Africa.

The spike coincides with Botswana's anti-poaching unit being disarmed. Botswana has the world's largest elephant population, but poachers have been breaching its border.

The scientist carrying out the extensive wildlife survey said many of the 87 dead elephants were killed for their tusks just weeks ago - and that five white rhinos have been poached in three months.

"I'm shocked, I'm completely astounded. The scale of elephant poaching is by far the largest I've seen or read about anywhere in Africa to date," said Dr Mike Chase from Elephants Without Borders.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-45396394?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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Dozens of elephants killed near Botswana wildlife sanctuary (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Sep 2018 OP
......... Hotler Sep 2018 #1
There needs a massive international effort to stop the ivory trade. sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #2
"Damn. That's a super stanky karmic omen for us KGOP repubes." - Dirty Donny Junior* (R) Achilleaze Sep 2018 #3
Anyone who does not think guns are penile projections needs to study this portrait of a real MFer randr Sep 2018 #9
A piece of living shit if there ever was one. Metro135 Sep 2018 #11
His knife is shiny clean. uppityperson Sep 2018 #15
Sickening Me. Sep 2018 #4
Why did they disarm the anti-poaching units?!? NickB79 Sep 2018 #5
Apparently, budget cuts PennyK Sep 2018 #6
Now THIS, I would support sending troops overseas for (as part of a UN contingent) mr_lebowski Sep 2018 #7
You know what? bluestarone Sep 2018 #8
Start hunting down the assholes trafficking and buying it. alphafemale Sep 2018 #12
Killing animals for sport, bringing back lion's heads as trophies. onit2day Sep 2018 #18
These elephants weren't killed by trophy hunters NickB79 Sep 2018 #21
One more reason to dispise tRump and his administration. pazzyanne Sep 2018 #19
I am heartsick. Responsibility needs to go to the root cause - the Chinese jmbar2 Sep 2018 #10
AMEN!! +1000 Duppers Sep 2018 #25
Start building up lion guard prides, Botswana. roamer65 Sep 2018 #13
I like this idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter! Coventina Sep 2018 #16
Lions are also being killed NickB79 Sep 2018 #20
Then just round up the poachers and herders and feed them to the lions. roamer65 Sep 2018 #27
applause!!! Coventina Sep 2018 #29
Horrible. milestogo Sep 2018 #14
This is heartbreaking. I hope the penalties for buying Tusks etc is severe. onit2day Sep 2018 #17
Just as China promises massive spending in Africa. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2018 #22
This makes me sick. n/t Chemisse Sep 2018 #23
I was fired in Kenya for doing my job too well. oneshooter Sep 2018 #24
I would like to hear more about this..... Bayard Sep 2018 #28
Most of the poachers were killed by the Zulu and Masia oneshooter Sep 2018 #30
I have nothing but contempt for these useless excuses for human beings. defacto7 Sep 2018 #26

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. "Damn. That's a super stanky karmic omen for us KGOP repubes." - Dirty Donny Junior* (R)
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:53 AM
Sep 2018
* aka spawn of the republican draft-dodger-in-chief

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
5. Why did they disarm the anti-poaching units?!?
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:57 AM
Sep 2018

Give those brave souls all the firepower they need to hunt down these scum 😣

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Now THIS, I would support sending troops overseas for (as part of a UN contingent)
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 11:11 AM
Sep 2018

This needs to stop, and the guilty parties brought to quick and severe justice.

Elephant and Rhino Poachers are the f***ing SCUM OF THE EARTH.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
18. Killing animals for sport, bringing back lion's heads as trophies.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 02:08 PM
Sep 2018

America should be taking the lead not condoning or legalizing trophy hunters.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
21. These elephants weren't killed by trophy hunters
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 03:09 PM
Sep 2018

They were killed by poachers. If anything, game preserves in southern Africa that are managed for hunting have some of the most stable herds left, because the owners are able to spend large sums of money protecting the game animals there. A $40,000 trophy giraffe buys a lot of equipment and security.

Bear in mind, these elephants died because the Botswanan government lacked funds to protect their herds.

If you could ban all trophy hunting today, you would only accelerate the extinction of these species, not save them.

pazzyanne

(6,551 posts)
19. One more reason to dispise tRump and his administration.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 02:34 PM
Sep 2018

I would support UN troop intervention 100%. I am so tired of fighting a losing battle to preserve the wildlife of our world. They are irreplaceable treasures beyond these craven men's "need" for aphrodisiac use, expediency for the lazy, and for mounted heads for their walls. It sickens me every time I see or hear this is happening. Guess I have been fighting for animal rights for so long that I support a military intervention in this one!

jmbar2

(4,876 posts)
10. I am heartsick. Responsibility needs to go to the root cause - the Chinese
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 11:38 AM
Sep 2018

They are the largest market for ivory and rhino horn, mostly for their pricks.

Why does the whole world have to be destroyed for men's pricks?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
13. Start building up lion guard prides, Botswana.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 12:32 PM
Sep 2018

...and if poachers are caught, feed them them TO the lions. Take video of it and distribute it.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
20. Lions are also being killed
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 03:02 PM
Sep 2018

If not by poachers, then by herders encroaching into protected areas

Lions are no match for a poisoned piece of meat.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
27. Then just round up the poachers and herders and feed them to the lions.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 12:25 AM
Sep 2018

The Romans did do some things right.

Great way to cut down the carbon footprint.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
17. This is heartbreaking. I hope the penalties for buying Tusks etc is severe.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 02:03 PM
Sep 2018

So sad. The greed and cruelty of poachers should be met with death.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
24. I was fired in Kenya for doing my job too well.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:06 PM
Sep 2018

I was a white man, catching poachers. Had 3 Zulu and 3 Masai as trackers. We were GOOD, DAMN GOOD, TOO GOOD. I was relieved of my duties and my trackers released because I was told that a WHITE man killing BLACK poachers was not politically correct. Truth is I was stopping some profits from getting to the right people in the government.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
28. I would like to hear more about this.....
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:52 AM
Sep 2018

Were you actually killing poachers by catching them in the act? Not that I have a problem with that, just interested in the particulars. You were working for the Kenyan government?

I understand one guy killing one animal to feed his family. No one is eating elephants or rhino's. Reminds me of American history where millions of buffalo were killed just for their tongues, and the carcasses left to rot.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
30. Most of the poachers were killed by the Zulu and Masia
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:12 PM
Sep 2018

I followed in the jeep and by the time I got there all was done. Yes, they do eat elephant, it is quite good.

I was a Game Ranger for the Kenyan government. Hired to catch poachers. If they fought us then they died.

As for the American Bison, most were killed for their hides, and to control the Plains Indians. The toungs were considered a prime piece of meat, and many were salted in barrels and sold.

Do you know what the hides were used for?

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