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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:32 PM Aug 2012

Police say man accidentally shot himself in the head while watching movie

Source: WPDE

Horry County police say a Conway man shot himself in the head with a revolver while watching a movie Friday morning, according to the report.

It happened about 2:50 a.m. at 3140 Wayside Road.

Witnesses told police James Gagum, 43, was sitting in the recliner when he put the gun to his head after watching a scene in the movie and said, "That's not how it's done." He began pulling the trigger and on the third pull, the gun went off, according to the report.

EMS was called and pronounced Gagum dead at the scene.


Read more: http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=795324#.UEEJet23PSs

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Police say man accidentally shot himself in the head while watching movie (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2012 OP
Putting a gun to your head and then pulling the trigger. SheilaT Aug 2012 #1
If he didn't have life insurance, it truly was stupid. Otherwise, the "accidental" shooting means AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #53
In reality, some life insurance policies SheilaT Sep 2012 #55
Stupidity has a price, I guess. Callmecrazy Aug 2012 #2
For him, yes. For the GOP it's a virtue Major Nikon Sep 2012 #37
One less idiot Mz Pip Aug 2012 #3
I've considered doing that catnhatnh Aug 2012 #4
*snerk* cyberswede Aug 2012 #7
Well, it can't be a rifle or shotgun; one has to leave the other hand free for...other things. Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #27
Watching a movie now... Mmm_Bacon Sep 2012 #48
Easy cure for that. Brigid Sep 2012 #30
They don't even tell us what movie? Journalism really is a lost art petronius Aug 2012 #5
The Deer Hunter! greiner3 Aug 2012 #8
Bambi lame54 Aug 2012 #10
Sacha Cohen movie? dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #60
2012 Darwin Award contestant benld74 Aug 2012 #6
+1 sakabatou Aug 2012 #16
Nope. 2012 Darwin Award winner. n/t RebelOne Sep 2012 #63
Everybodies a critic lame54 Aug 2012 #9
A success story; greiner3 Aug 2012 #11
Odds are he was a Republican. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #12
I think we've found the 2012 Darwin Award winner..... Historic NY Aug 2012 #13
On the third pull? jdadd Aug 2012 #14
The third time's a charm. nt Incitatus Aug 2012 #17
That reminds me of a story from years ago where a guy convinced his buddy Tyrs WolfDaemon Sep 2012 #24
Oh. My. God. kag Sep 2012 #25
That begs a bigger question Myrina Sep 2012 #49
Considering they have him commenting 'That's not how it's done...' Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #59
"Gagum"......heh..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #15
LOL - you're bad. n/t bitchkitty Sep 2012 #20
That's part of my charm. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #36
His previous exploit: jsr Aug 2012 #18
You're far more likely to kill yourself or a family member with a gun in the home than an intruder. onehandle Sep 2012 #23
Sitting in his lazy boy in front of his TV watching violence with a loaded gun. Stupid is as stupid upaloopa Sep 2012 #40
Suicide = no life insurance coverage. Accident = collectible life insurance. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #19
not necessarily; depends on the policy and the state unblock Sep 2012 #56
that'll leave a mark arely staircase Sep 2012 #21
Yeah... in the ground n/t Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #33
So that's how its done. grantcart Sep 2012 #22
Must have been forced to watch bill'o. geckosfeet Sep 2012 #26
Now if the guy's head had had a gun of its own, Aristus Sep 2012 #28
He must have been watching "Lethal Weapon." Brigid Sep 2012 #29
Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Sep 2012 #31
Just what this country needs guns for kids! What the hell is wrong with gunners? upaloopa Sep 2012 #38
Have you ever been to a basic gun-safety class? NickB79 Sep 2012 #42
I a year in Vietnam. I had some kind of weapon with me every day upaloopa Sep 2012 #45
You were given weapons training in the military to maximize lethality NickB79 Sep 2012 #62
Teaching kids gun safety = guns for kids slackmaster Sep 2012 #43
Teaching kids rattlesnake safety = rattlesnakes for kids Why Syzygy Sep 2012 #44
But where do you draw the line? primavera Sep 2012 #46
wow Why Syzygy Sep 2012 #47
Ah, but you are mistaken. primavera Sep 2012 #50
It's possible for a parent to be completely responsible with guns and not create any hazards slackmaster Sep 2012 #64
Just what this country needs sex for kids! What the hell is wrong with sex-eders? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #67
Another 2nd Amendment Solution ThoughtCriminal Sep 2012 #32
one less vote for romney. iemitsu Sep 2012 #34
Must have been... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #35
He showed them. Lone_Star_Dem Sep 2012 #39
Some movies really are that bad. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #41
Was he handcuffed? asjr Sep 2012 #51
But hey, at least he hit his target, that says something now doesn't it? n/t 2on2u Sep 2012 #52
Wow. Dinesh D'Souza has a lot of influence over his viewers. n/t dimbear Sep 2012 #54
This doesn't sound right... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #57
hard to say. obviously some other explanation is possible and certainly the witnesses might want to unblock Sep 2012 #58
I think it was a suicide Skittles Sep 2012 #61
Yes, that is very likely so and it's disappointing to see widespread lack of empathy on DU... slackmaster Sep 2012 #65
If you start a wood chipper then jump in did you "accidentally" grind yourself in to a paste? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #66
that was no accident. nt bad sofa king Sep 2012 #68
One less gun toting DUMB Republican. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #69
Yeah, definitely a typical Republican. He even has a criminal record. Here's a mugshot... slackmaster Sep 2012 #71
That's why I only own Semi-autos ileus Sep 2012 #70
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
53. If he didn't have life insurance, it truly was stupid. Otherwise, the "accidental" shooting means
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
Sep 2012

that his widow or other survivors can collect on the life insurance.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
55. In reality, some life insurance policies
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:02 PM
Sep 2012

simply have a two to five year waiting period, and then will pay off even for suicide.

 

Mmm_Bacon

(58 posts)
48. Watching a movie now...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:16 PM
Sep 2012

... and practicing trigger pulls at various characters.

edit: Still not pointing at my head... duh...

petronius

(26,602 posts)
5. They don't even tell us what movie? Journalism really is a lost art
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:38 PM
Aug 2012

Sad story any way it happened, but incredibly stupid if it was an accident. Hope the family and witnesses are able to get through the trauma w/o too much difficulty...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
12. Odds are he was a Republican.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:43 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not sure we should be disparaging or discouraging this sort of behavior.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
13. I think we've found the 2012 Darwin Award winner.....
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:53 PM
Aug 2012

must have been the Deer Hunter. Its funny they call it an accident, no its not an accident its a conscious decision to load a gun with a bullet and spin the cylinder. Now its would really be moranic if the victim loaded one bullet in a semi-auto pistol and pulled the trigger after racking the slide.

The gene pool lifeguard was absent.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
24. That reminds me of a story from years ago where a guy convinced his buddy
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:03 AM
Sep 2012

to play Russian Roulette with him. He put the clip in his gun, pulled the slide back, put it to his head and pulled the trigger. The buddy told the authorities that he didn't know the game was supposed to be played with a revolver.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
49. That begs a bigger question
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
Sep 2012

How did the cop know dude took 3 pulls before he hit the 'jackpot'? Does a gun record something like that? Was there a witness mentioned that I missed?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
59. Considering they have him commenting 'That's not how it's done...'
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:12 PM
Sep 2012

I'm gonna guess there was someone with him.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
18. His previous exploit:
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:36 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2196650/James-Gagum-Man-accidentally-shoots-head-demonstrating-proper-way-it.html

In 2010 he thwarted a home invasion, shooting one of three suspects fatally after they broke into his home and he claimed pointed a gun at him and his wife.

'It was him instead of me or me instead of him,' Mr Gagum told WTOC at the time.

Mr Gagum was not charged in that shooting.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
23. You're far more likely to kill yourself or a family member with a gun in the home than an intruder.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:08 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:55 AM - Edit history (2)

What are the odds of doing both?

I wonder if the intruder was armed. Odds are if the occupant had never had a gun, nobody would be dead.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
40. Sitting in his lazy boy in front of his TV watching violence with a loaded gun. Stupid is as stupid
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 01:19 AM
Sep 2012

does I guess.

unblock

(52,209 posts)
56. not necessarily; depends on the policy and the state
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:04 PM
Sep 2012

my state farm policy in connecticut has a 2-year exclusion, but after that, it doesn't care how i die.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
38. Just what this country needs guns for kids! What the hell is wrong with gunners?
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 01:16 AM
Sep 2012

Look, you love your guns, fine. Don't push the that shit on the rest of us!

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
42. Have you ever been to a basic gun-safety class?
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:40 AM
Sep 2012

It's basically this:

-Treat all guns like they're loaded
-NEVER point a gun at something you don't want to shoot (pet, family, etc)
-Treat all guns as if they don't have a safety
-If you find an unattended gun, DO NOT TOUCH IT. Find an adult (this applies to children)
-Safely store your firearms (this applies to adults)

Which ones of those sound like bad things to you?

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
62. You were given weapons training in the military to maximize lethality
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:54 PM
Sep 2012

I'm asking about basic gun safety steps that they teach largely to children.

Again, which of the basic safety steps I listed don't you think are good to teach to children?

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
44. Teaching kids rattlesnake safety = rattlesnakes for kids
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

Teaching kids fire safety = fires for kids

Teaching kids safe sex = sex for kids

Teaching kids safe stranger conduct = strangers for kids

Let's just not teach those little ones anything at all. They can't be trusted.

primavera

(5,191 posts)
46. But where do you draw the line?
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:56 PM
Sep 2012

Should we also teach kids how to safely handle explosives? You never know, it could save their lives one day. Maybe we should teach them how to wear hazmat gear. After all, at the rate that we're toxifying the planet, they're likely to need that information the next time they want to go to a beach. And we'd certainly better teach them all of the tenets of religious zealotry because, hey, those wackos are taking over the country; you're going to need to know about how god hates everyone, especially those homosexuals and people who use birth control.

I dunno, I've had this conversation before and I do sort of understand the argument in favor of universal gun safety education. At the same time, it just seems like we're putting the cart before the horse. We fill our world with all sorts of pointless, unnecessary hazards and then when one of those hazards harms someone, our first thought is how we really ought to make everyone learn about those hazards. Hello? You think maybe there's something to be said for making the world less dangerous rather than more dangerous so that our kids, who already have a hell of a lot to learn already, don't have to be burdened with the additional knowledge of how to protect themselves from artificial hazards that we're responsible for having created in the first place? Have we absolutely no sense of personal responsibility in this country whatsoever?

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
47. wow
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012
That's a hell of a dissonance in your last two sentences.

First you advocate not burdening young citizens with lessons, because they don't need to know there are hazards and how they might successfully handle them. Should we burden them with the fact that the family has an emergency plan in the case of a fire or other danger? Don't burden the little ones with bicycle safety, for example. Too much BURDEN on a little folk. It's too much burden to teach them survival skills?

I'll have to disagree about that.

Now, after you've explained how it's too much trouble, or dangerous, to prepare children to face modern hazards, of whatever type; your post admonishes us to honor "personal responsibility". If I'm not mistaken, "personal responsibility" will include being informed on situations that they may never encounter! But be prepared just in case.

Think of an individual who has been shielded from some form of gun safety knowledge. Now they are 19 and go join OWS. There are going to be a lot of GUNS there. Do you want that former child to freak out and be terrified of the weapons of the 'peace keepers'? Some adults actually react to the sight of a gun as if it were a massive cobra.

That's not healthy. And I can only read your post as advocating poor planning skills. And then, I guess, take personal responsibility when something goes wrong and people REALLY get hurt.


primavera

(5,191 posts)
50. Ah, but you are mistaken.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:43 PM
Sep 2012

In the context at hand, "personal responsibility" means cleaning up your messes so that you don't have to burden your children with the hazardous situation you created. But I appreciate that that is a level of personal responsibility that gun nuts do not consider viable. Far better to go on making the world ever more dangerous and then patting yourselves on the back because you were "responsible" enough to teach your children about the hazards you created for them.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
64. It's possible for a parent to be completely responsible with guns and not create any hazards
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sep 2012

The problem is other peoples' guns, over which you have no control. Children deserve to know what to do and what not to do when they encounter an unsecured weapon, or find themselves in a situation where someone is handling one in a negligent manner.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
67. Just what this country needs sex for kids! What the hell is wrong with sex-eders?
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sep 2012

Look, you love your sex-ed, fine. Don't push the that shit on the rest of us!

/all I'm saying is that if you teach kids how to have sex safely they will run out and have sex. Education is never the answer. Abstinence only. That way they learn valuable lessons like shame and ignorance and sex-related incidents plummet. This is especially effective for kids since they A) only care about long term consequences of their actions, B) love listening to parents telling them not to do something and C) are repulsed by things that are seen as taboo and off limits.

unblock

(52,209 posts)
58. hard to say. obviously some other explanation is possible and certainly the witnesses might want to
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:08 PM
Sep 2012

keep the truth a secret.

on the other hand, the reported scenario is almost too bizarre to be made-up.

it would be more plausible if the victim had been in some sort of "diminished capacity".

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
65. Yes, that is very likely so and it's disappointing to see widespread lack of empathy on DU...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:11 PM
Sep 2012

...for someone who may have had serious mental health issues.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
66. If you start a wood chipper then jump in did you "accidentally" grind yourself in to a paste?
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:01 PM
Sep 2012

At some point the level of stupidity necessary should reach such a critical mass that we no longer consider it an "accident" but rather overdue selection.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
71. Yeah, definitely a typical Republican. He even has a criminal record. Here's a mugshot...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 04:38 PM
Sep 2012

He was convicted once for driving on the wrong side of the road. That's not hard to do in Conway. Some of the streets are so narrow it's impossible to drive completely on the right side.



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