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canetoad

(17,154 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:42 PM Sep 2018

The next financial crisis will strike in 2020, says JPMorgan

Source: The Age

By Chris Anstey
14 September 2018 — 7:32am

How bad will the next crisis be? JPMorgan Chase & Co. has an idea.

A decade after the collapse of Lehman Brothers sparked a plunge in markets and a raft of emergency measures, strategists at the bank have created a model aimed at gauging the timing and severity of the next financial crisis. And they reckon investors should pencil it in for 2020.

The good news is, the next one will probably generate a somewhat less painful hit than past episodes, according to their analysis. The bad news? Diminished financial market liquidity since the 2008 implosion is a "wildcard" that's tough to game out.

The JPMorgan model calculates outcomes based on the length of the economic expansion, the potential duration of the next recession, the degree of leverage, asset-price valuations and the level of deregulation and financial innovation before the crisis. Assuming an average-length recession, the model came up with the following peak-to-trough performance estimates for different asset classes in the next crisis, according to the note.

Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/the-next-financial-crisis-will-strike-in-2020-says-jpmorgan-20180914-p503o7.html

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regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
2. Bad news for everyone, I'd guess...
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:47 PM
Sep 2018

...but the Republican Party should be scared to death by this. We already saw how a crisis in 2008 turned what seemed like a horserace into a clearcut Democratic win. And, this time, the Republican would be an incumbent (seen as more personally-responsible for the economy) who had based his re-election on how well the economy was doing under his management.

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
3. After QE 1,2,3 and sub-2% interest rates for 10 years, they complain about lack of liquidity?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:48 PM
Sep 2018

Where do we find such bankers?

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
8. They mean liquidity of securities that get traded...
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:26 PM
Sep 2018

...eg what happens when the algo traders step away from the markets in untested waters...then thing. Dan get illiquid pretty fast and everyone will want to go the same direction...that’s ugly.

Still - the economy is not as sensitive to short term funding drying up this time around, so won’t likely be as dlong devastating as 2008.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
6. That is EXACTLY the issue
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:01 PM
Sep 2018

Repubs create a mess, Democrats come in and mop it up yet the electorate has a painfully short memory and puts repubs back in power so they can take credit for a good economy.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
7. repugs are so good at propaganda, along with their BIG pockets
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:04 PM
Sep 2018

pay off 'media' to assure FACTS are obscured (as their absurd assertions are so 'catchy,') rational folks aren't heard by the lemmings.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
11. Dems clean up the GOP's mess.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:55 PM
Sep 2018

Then the GOP turns around and blames the Dems for not cleaning it up fast enough. It's a perpetual shit cycle.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
13. My thought exactly.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:39 AM
Sep 2018

Seems to me that we need to be prepared to avoid bailing out Wall Street and the banking system this time, and have a united front that most bailout money will take the form of infusions into the pockets of the middle class and the poor.

If it's in the party platform in 2020 and all the Dems run on the platform, maybe we can hold the line.

It would be an interesting economic experiment that would allow direct comparison of the two approaches, and if we talk it up before the next recession happens maybe we would gain the support of most economists on that basis. Perhaps that would help us with the media and the public.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
14. I like it, but 'our' bankers probably won't.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:50 AM
Sep 2018

Nothing like Citizens' United keeping us all in chains.

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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
9. No Jamie Dimon, it started on Jan 2017.............................
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

when you had a congress led by "ayn rand" Ryan got working on your tax break, and then got it passed so that you tax would just continued to be frozen at the rate you got 21% at the end of the year, and you can off shore millions, while millions of others will have to pay for it...............and our taxes goes up to pay for the wall streets greed and other greedy entities.................nice try.....................

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
12. Matter of time before it all explodes
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:24 AM
Sep 2018

That tax cut sped up the crash by 3-5 years. Hopefully it happens in October and November like it did in 2008. Make that incompetent orange fucker a one term president.

 
10. See...Drumpf Is Better Than Shrub!
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:32 PM
Sep 2018

It took 7+ years for Georgie to crash the economy. Drumpf is going to do it in under 4.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
15. If that does happen, it's over for Trump in the 2020 election.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:16 AM
Sep 2018

The only thing keeping him afloat right now is the economy. If that goes, he loses all independent support and we see another electoral wipeout like we did in 2008.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
19. It'll be kept afloat until after the 2020 election.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:42 PM
Sep 2018

And then it'll be blamed on Prez Biden, or Prez Warren, or ...

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
17. banks are already asking for a bail-out for bad stock investments
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:35 AM
Sep 2018

they can't wait to pick our pockets again
we need legislation to stabilize these markets

sandensea

(21,633 posts)
18. They forget to mention that it'll be thanks to Cheeto
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:10 PM
Sep 2018

If it does happen, we'll have the Rotten Orange's efforts to rescind (and refusal to enforce) Dodd-Frank to thank.

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