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brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:04 PM Sep 2018

Avenatti to 2020 Dems: Stop ducking Fox News

Source: Politico

Michael Avenatti isn’t sure that he’ll ever go on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show again — but he thinks every Democrat who’s serious about running in 2020 should if they want to prove they have what it takes to go up against President Donald Trump.

“Sometimes you’ve got to go into the belly of the beast. You can’t call yourself a fighter and then turn out to be a paper tiger,” Avenatti said in a Friday interview, dismissing the Democrats who have written off appearances with Carlson, and Fox News more broadly, given the channel’s often clearly pro-Trump bent.

Carlson said explicitly to Avenatti during Thursday night’s show that he wouldn’t insult the lawyer, best known for representing Stormy Daniels but now traveling the country talking up a White House run of his own. But over the course of the appearance, Fox News showed five different chryons that used the phrase “creepy porn lawyer” (the phrase apparently seemed so familiar that in one of them, the producers just went with the initials CPL).

Avenatti couldn’t see the chryons while on air, but said he learned about them as soon as he went back to the green room and talked with the people who’d come to the studio with him. He immediately started firing back on Twitter, but he said he’d already made his feelings known to the host for how the interview itself went: “Before I left the set, I told Tucker he was a joke, and his show was a joke.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/14/avenatti-2020-democrats-fox-news-824748

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Racerdog1

(808 posts)
1. Yes
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:10 PM
Sep 2018

Do what Avenatti did, make the faux news hosts look like the morons they are. Make the turd ball idiots that watch this shit, heads explode.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
2. "Carlson said explicitly...that he wouldn't insult the lawyer"
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:11 PM
Sep 2018

So, running an insulting caption that Avenatti couldn't see is the way they decided to go. Assholes and cowards.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
3. Avenatti's right! Dems/Progressives need to stop preaching to their choir...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:13 PM
Sep 2018

They should all take a debate class and learn to talk over and score points against hostile conservative interviewers!

Stop being so polite, for heaven's sake - Dems/Progressives being polite doesn't make people marvel at the fact you're taking the high road. In US politics now, being polite just makes you look WEAK!

And for crap's sake, don't let Conservative interviewers maneuver you into saying something that's NOT NICE about another Dem...

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
4. Why lower yourself to sit down with racist white trash like Hannity, Carlson and Ingraham
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:14 PM
Sep 2018

it just gives them creds with their racist white trash audience who will not vote for a Democrat ever anyway.

Avoid Murdoch's operations nationwide like the plague.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. Fox is obviously not...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:21 PM
Sep 2018

A legitimate news org when they do childish extremely biased crap like this, "Fox News showed five different chryons that used the phrase “creepy porn lawyer” (the phrase apparently seemed so familiar that in one of them, the producers just went with the initials CPL)."

Fox deserves to be mocked, shunned, marginalized and ignored like the RW propaganda sewage spewer that it is. Don't give them jack except disdain.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
8. Nope
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:32 PM
Sep 2018

There isn't enough cash on Earth to make me sit down with a Faux News blowhard. Fuck it. The people who watch that station are a lost cause and it's past time to engage in "tolerant understanding" of Nazis and Kluxers who want people like me dead.

brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
9. I chatted recently with a House candidate running in a competitive Red State district
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:41 PM
Sep 2018

When people questioned her going in to red Counties where her predecessor lost by 70%, her response was "let's see if we can lose them by 50%".

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
12. Politico, please learn the lingo:
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:24 PM
Sep 2018

The word is CHYRON, not CHRYON.

Other than that, I agree with Avenatti. My cable doesn't carry Faux Snooze, but when I'm on vacation I sometimes catch it, and all I've seen is garbage. The Faux geezers really do need to be exposed to sane, sensible and caring politicians, as a nice contrast to the GOP talking heads.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
13. So you can fuck her and be A-Okay, but defend her in court
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:44 PM
Sep 2018

And you're a creep?

WTF kind of double standard misogynistic bullshit is that?

Fuck those talking heads. You know they are all spanking their pasty white micro penises to porn every chance they get.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Amazing how they can justify anything they do and demonize Democrats
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:20 AM
Sep 2018

for everything we do. The hypocrisy is astounding.

summer_in_TX

(2,735 posts)
15. Faux News plays hardball - even if you're prepared for it, not sure it's worth it
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:10 PM
Sep 2018

Carlson (and no doubt others) has been known to cut the volume to a guest's headphones so he or she doesn't hear the question and seems to be ignoring the host like a fool, according to Kurt Eichenwald. And Carlson apparently incited anger and trashing Eichenwald on Twitter that became quite scary for Eichenwald and his family. Apparently they assumed he was Jewish based on his last name.

I think there are better ways to reach conservative voters if you are a candidate, going door-to-door, holding town halls in conservative parts of the district. Then Fox doesn't have video of a Democratic candidate to manipulate.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
16. It won't matter what liberal you put
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:47 AM
Sep 2018

in front of the rightwing scaggs.

Its fucking war and as soon as the dino's
understand that this country can gain the
momentum necessary to oust the traitor
and its followers...period..

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. He's right.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 08:37 AM
Sep 2018

Need to oppose their lies at every opportunity possible. It's not to bring the far right into the party---it's to not let the FOX twist on reality go unchallenged.

Dems need the courage to go on the offensive big time. Wish more of them had the crisp anger and courage of Avenatti.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
19. His retort about Trump being a creepy porn President
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

was brilliant, adding that it was Trump who had sex with her with no condom* while his wife and newborn were at home.

For future attacks, we should get those stats out about the high consumption of porn in red states. I think Utah was No. 1, God bless their hearts.

*phone typing changed “condom” to condominium and then condiments before it let condom go through, lol

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