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canetoad

(17,196 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:40 PM Sep 2018

Elon Musk sued for libel by British Thai cave rescuer

Source: BBC

A British cave diver is suing tech billionaire Elon Musk for defamation after his repeated claims the diver is a child abuser.

Vernon Unsworth helped with the rescue of 12 Thai teenagers from a flooded cave in July.

Mr Musk has made several accusations against Mr Unsworth without evidence, including that he was a "child rapist".

The lawsuit seeks $75,000 (£57,000) in compensation and an injunction against Mr Musk to stop further allegations.

The filing also says Mr Unsworth is seeking "punitive damages" as well as the compensation, "to punish him for his wrongdoing and deter him from repeating such heinous conduct".

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45551895



Copy of lawsuit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/17_09_18_musk_filing.pdf
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Elon Musk sued for libel by British Thai cave rescuer (Original Post) canetoad Sep 2018 OP
Is he a child abuser? Pachamama Sep 2018 #1
I don't think so canetoad Sep 2018 #3
Musk put up no evidence exboyfil Sep 2018 #5
He claimed he found info on the guy torius Sep 2018 #7
Out of his rear end? exboyfil Sep 2018 #8
Can you link to where Musk claimed that he had proof? Denzil_DC Sep 2018 #24
he may have been using a bit too much Bolivian marching powder to keep working 16 hour days paulkienitz Sep 2018 #11
This is 2018, where anyone can accuse anybody of being a pedophile. Initech Sep 2018 #13
Elon Musk really attacked these people for no reason Gothmog Sep 2018 #2
Musk was jealous because neither the world media Blue_Tires Sep 2018 #12
That was a nasty accusation. Beakybird Sep 2018 #4
Elon Musk is a pos in many ways. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #6
Being wealty does not preclude one jb5150 Sep 2018 #9
It's a self-driving lawsuit at this point bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #10
Reminds me of someone else........ 7962 Sep 2018 #16
So Hillary should file a load of lawsuits too............. Bengus81 Sep 2018 #14
I really think she should LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #18
She's a public figure. British libel laws much more favorable to Plaintiff MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #26
Sure is a low amount to ask. But I guess he's just concerned about clearing his name. 7962 Sep 2018 #15
It is an astoundingly low amount LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #17
He may only be suing for $75,000 in compensation csziggy Sep 2018 #19
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Got it. nt 7962 Sep 2018 #20
Uh....ok, I missed that part LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #21
Yup. For an ultra-rich guy like Musk, what a judge and jury might consider "punitive" Denzil_DC Sep 2018 #25
The requested compensation is low... Harker Sep 2018 #22
The article Sgent Sep 2018 #28
Musk is a total fraud. Why he has so many fan boyz, even here on DU, is baffling. PSPS Sep 2018 #23
Musk's companies have built some of the most advanced cars available Zorro Sep 2018 #27

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. Is he a child abuser?
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:42 PM
Sep 2018

I am just curious why Elon Musk would make this claim.... it seems out of character....

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
5. Musk put up no evidence
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:44 PM
Sep 2018

to support it. He even baited the guy to sue him.

Musk may be working from a stereotype. A middle aged guy moves to Thailand - he is there to access underage children for sex.

Musk should pay to make it go away.

torius

(1,652 posts)
7. He claimed he found info on the guy
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:49 PM
Sep 2018

and that he had gone there for a child bride. I don't know where he got this info.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
8. Out of his rear end?
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:52 PM
Sep 2018

The guy apparently has a long term adult girlfriend. He was one of the heroes of the rescue so these accusations probably aren't going to play well.

Denzil_DC

(7,278 posts)
24. Can you link to where Musk claimed that he had proof?
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:51 PM
Sep 2018

I lost interest in the whole thing in disgust, but last I saw on Twitter, Musk was making insinuations up out of whole cloth along the lines of "Why would an English guy go live in Thailand if it wasn't to molest kids?" and yukking it up with some of his more fanatical fans, playing the "Well, if there was nothing in it, he'd sue me, right?" game.

So now it's game on - both in the US and in the UK (where the libel laws are notoriously less loaded in favour of the libeler).

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
11. he may have been using a bit too much Bolivian marching powder to keep working 16 hour days
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:02 PM
Sep 2018

Some combination of exhaustion and stimulants might explain this.

Elon, I'm a fan, but you done fucked up. Now apologize and pay your settlement.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
13. This is 2018, where anyone can accuse anybody of being a pedophile.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:03 PM
Sep 2018

Despite having no evidence to the contrary. We can thank the Pizzagate and Qanon morons for that one.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. Musk was jealous because neither the world media
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:02 PM
Sep 2018

nor the Thai gov't took his overly-complex, impractical "plan" to save the kids seriously (https://www.vox.com/2018/7/10/17553820/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescue-submarine), and there wasn't enough homage paid to his genius

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
18. I really think she should
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:20 PM
Sep 2018

By remaining silent when he routinely called and still calls her "crooked Hillary" and says she is a criminal, his deplorables, and even many moderate Rs probably, think that there is something there.

I'd love to see a court case that proves Hillary is NOT a criminal, has never been charged as a criminal. And forces Donald to pay up. While I'm sure many deplorables will never believe it, thinking the "deep state" is protecting her, it might help put doubt in a lot of others about why and how they ever thought that. (Years of RW propaganda media of course)

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
15. Sure is a low amount to ask. But I guess he's just concerned about clearing his name.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:18 PM
Sep 2018

Musk was an idiot.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
17. It is an astoundingly low amount
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:15 PM
Sep 2018

For an almost iron clad case against a billionaire like Musk.
That will work against any case Musk's lawyers might make that he's just trying to cash in.

In fact he made it very easy for Elon to quickly pay up and move on. It was a foolish thing to do in the first place. I have a bit of a tolerance and a longer rope for Musk because of his accomplishments. I also appreciate him pulling out of Trump's business council or whatever it was. But he has to deal with this, admit he was wrong, and pay up quickly.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
19. He may only be suing for $75,000 in compensation
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:32 PM
Sep 2018

But the punitive damages are not named and could reach a considerable amount if the jury or judge decides to punish Elon Musk.

From the OP:

The lawsuit seeks $75,000 (£57,000) in compensation and an injunction against Mr Musk to stop further allegations.

The filing also says Mr Unsworth is seeking "punitive damages" as well as the compensation, "to punish him for his wrongdoing and deter him from repeating such heinous conduct".

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
21. Uh....ok, I missed that part
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:33 PM
Sep 2018

Still, he can afford it, whatever it is. And should just quietly pay it and move on.

Denzil_DC

(7,278 posts)
25. Yup. For an ultra-rich guy like Musk, what a judge and jury might consider "punitive"
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:53 PM
Sep 2018

could amount to a tidy sum.

Harker

(14,049 posts)
22. The requested compensation is low...
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:34 PM
Sep 2018

but the punitive damages awarded could be astronomical.

And I post very slowly.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
28. The article
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:47 AM
Sep 2018

is a little wrong. He's asking for more than 75,000 in compensation -- with the amount to be determined by a jury.

75,000 is the smallest to get it into Federal court.

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
27. Musk's companies have built some of the most advanced cars available
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:07 PM
Sep 2018

and developed ground-breaking rocket technologies.

Musk is hardly "a total fraud".

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