New plan from some House Democrats aims to oust Nancy Pelosi

[brooklynite]

Source: CBS News

An ongoing feud over who will lead House Democrats next year is poised to enter a new round as early as next week, as members eager to oust House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, are floating a new way to do so.

...snip...

This group of anti-Pelosi Democrats is seeking to change the way the caucus elects its top leader. On Wednesday, these members submitted a way to tweak the byzantine procedural rules governing the makeup of the caucus.

Current House Democratic rules require that their leader win a majority of the caucus in order to secure the job and be put forward as a candidate to the full House to serve as speaker. Democrats and Republicans put forward candidates for House speaker at the start of a new two-year session. Given the math, the majority party's candidate always wins and becomes speaker.

Under the plan unveiled by anti-Pelosi Democrats, if the party wins control of the House, their new leader would need to win the votes of at least 218 Democrats — representing a majority of the entire House — in order to win the leader position and be considered as speaker.



Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-plan-from-some-house-democrats-aims-to-oust-nancy-pelosi/

[iluvtennis]

2. This is really misguided. Let's put the effort to winning the midterms. Don't count ur chickens b4

they hatch.

[dsc]

3. Regardless of one's position on replacing Pelosi this plan is stupid beyond belief

It would make our caucus ungovernable.

[Perseus]

24. Makes you wonder if republicans have some of their members register as Democrats

Some of the ideas and actions that come form the Democratic party once in a while makes you think if the idea did not generate in a republican mind first.

This is stupidity at its max...Someone has been intoxicated with power, unless of course my theory as stated in the subject line is true.

[brooklynite]

33. I take it you don't want to win back the House?

A significant number of the anti-Pelosi voices are running in seats we'll need to pick up.

[GemDigger]

4. They need to think this through a little more.

It may come and bite them in the ass down the road.

[jaysunb]

5. I was having a good day....until this. n/t

[mysteryowl]

6. Isn't this just normal process and the media has INFLAMED it into something larger

than it is? I think, it is normal process to vote in a leader. To renew it with a new vote. Right? Members can throw in their hat if they want. Why so much drama media? Stop it!

[summer_in_TX]

7. This plan would put Republicans in the drivers seat to pick the next

Democratic Speaker of the House, it sounds like to me. Stupid beyond belief.

[dalton99a]

8. Win first.

Goddamnit

[pazzyanne]

9. Those Democrats need to put their energy into winning the election.

The election going in favor of Democrats is not a done deal. Who will be Speaker of the House can be dealt with after the election results are in. I'm beginning to think there is something in the water in the House of Representatives that leads to brain damage.

[Spartacus101]

19. Actually, it's called "Stupid Gas"...

...and at 4AM each day, little pipes pop out of the ground all over D.C. and deliver a potent 1 minute blast.

[PatrickforO]

10. We'll see what the future holds. As the 'senior Democratic aide' cited in the article says,

what we need to be focusing now on is winning the election.

This argument, if it needs to happen, should happen AFTER we've swept the House and won back a solid majority in the Senate.

[pnwmom]

11. They want us to all start fighting each other -- before the election. Dumb, dumb, and dumber. n/t

[ancianita]

16. +1 for calling out the strategy

[defacto7]

12. Great. For our first point of business

let's just waist time squabbling over a new obstacle that we just invented... instead of cleaning up the stupid mess left by the previous congress. Gees...

[Spartacus101]

13. Only fools fight on a burning ship.

[Wounded Bear]

14. How Republican of them...

if you can't win straight up, change the rules.

[rpannier]

15. So... hypothetically... there are 218 Democrats in the House. Pelosi gets 115

that means 113 voted against her. What if they cannot get 218 votes for anybody?
What if someone chooses not to vote at all? It will be 217 every time
I have no problem with them wanting change. But, this idea is silly

[pnwmom]

17. It is silly -- and divisive. Who's benefiting from this? n/t

[CBHagman]

20. I've had it with Democrats who start from a position of negativity. The onus is on them...

...to show what they can do, to earn positions of leadership, to build alliances.

(I was going to say, "The onus is on them to get off their fat asses," but I feared that would be too negative.)

[woundedkarma]

21. President Pelosi

I just realized that whoever the speaker of the house is if democrats get both house and senate.. could very well end up the 46th or 47th president.

If democrats gain both house and senate, trump is gone. Which means pence... but it's possible we'd get rid of pence as well since it's possible mueller has enough evidence against him as well. So question is.. would pence get pushed into pres seat then impeached? or impeached together with trump which would lead to the speaker of the house becoming pres.

SO... a really important question... any dem is likely lightyears better than trump... but if we had our pick of dem presidents would it be Pelosi?

[bearsfootball516]

26. Need 67 votes in the Senate to convict. Not happening.

[onetexan]

22. Who are these anti-pelosi members

Seems theyre trying to sabotage the party from within

[Farmer-Rick]

23. I suspect the pro impeach Trump Dems

Are the ones pushing this.

[DeminPennswoods]

25. All of 11 Democrats

Here they are from the above link:

The group of 11 Democrats who signed the letter today included Rep. Ed Perlmutter (Colorado), Rep. Kathleen Rice (New York), Rep. Brian Higgins (New York), , Rep. Seth Moulton (Massachusetts), Rep. Robin Kelly (Illinois), Rep. Bill Foster (Illinois), Rep. Filemon Vela (Texas), Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio), Rep. Marcia Fudge (Ohio), Rep. Albio Sires (New Jersey) and Rep. Kurt Schrader (Oregon), according to a Democratic aide who has seen the letter.

Seeing Tim Ryan on the list makes me think this is his idea and he found 10 other Dems to go along with him.
Ryan has already challenged Pelosi and got his tail handed to him in voting. I guess this is his latest plan to become speaker, but what he apparently doesn't get is that in this day and age and such a diverse party, a pasty white guy from Ohio isn't going to become majority leader or speaker of the house.

[lagomorph777]

29. Looks like the Ryans (Tim and Paul) have similar opinions on who should be Speaker next.

[ehrnst]

30. White guy gets defeated by a qualified woman, and accuses the the system of being rigged.

Where have we heard that before?

[Bayard]

27. Rethugs will use this against us

Dems fighting among themselves.....unstable, contentious.

Sit down and shut up, you idiots. We HAVE to retake the House, and that requires unity.

[lagomorph777]

28. Come on congresscritters! Are you on the Democratic side, or Putin's side?

There is only one acceptable answer. Think carefully before you answer.

Who will be Speaker? If they keep this shit up, it'll be a Russiapublican.

[FSogol]

31. This is why we can't have nice things:

The group of 11 Democrats who signed the letter today included Rep. Ed Perlmutter (Colorado), Rep. Kathleen Rice (New York), Rep. Brian Higgins (New York), , Rep. Seth Moulton (Massachusetts), Rep. Robin Kelly (Illinois), Rep. Bill Foster (Illinois), Rep. Filemon Vela (Texas), Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio), Rep. Marcia Fudge (Ohio), Rep. Albio Sires (New Jersey) and Rep. Kurt Schrader (Oregon), according to a Democratic aide who has seen the letter.

[muriel_volestrangler]

32. You really have to question whether the reps signing this are too dumb to be reps

I'm glad to see the average DUer can immediately say "this is jaw-droppingly stupid". Is it too much to ask that Representatives show the intelligence of the average Democratic voter?

[elleng]

34. 'The group of 11 Democrats who signed the letter today included

Rep. Ed Perlmutter (Colorado), Rep. Kathleen Rice (New York), Rep. Brian Higgins (New York), , Rep. Seth Moulton (Massachusetts), Rep. Robin Kelly (Illinois), Rep. Bill Foster (Illinois), Rep. Filemon Vela (Texas), Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio), Rep. Marcia Fudge (Ohio), Rep. Albio Sires (New Jersey) and Rep. Kurt Schrader (Oregon), according to a Democratic aide who has seen the letter.

[ProfessorGAC]

35. Eleven?

This sounds teabaggerish. The "Freedom" caucus is only about a 7th of the R's in the House and they use blackmail and poutiness to get their way.

Now, it's a group of 11 who will take their ball and go home if they don't get their way?

Too much like the Jordan gang.