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Eugene

(61,881 posts)
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 05:48 PM Sep 2018

NTSB faults Air Canada pilots for last year's near disaster

Source: Associated Press

By DAVID KOENIG
12 minutes ago

Federal safety officials blame two Air Canada pilots for coming within 10 to 20 feet of crashing their jetliner into a plane on the ground last year in San Francisco.

The Air Canada pilots were apparently confused because one of two parallel runways was closed and dark before the late-night incident. The crew was seconds from landing their Airbus A320 jet on a taxiway where other planes loaded with passengers were waiting to take off.

“We could not have gotten literally or figuratively any closer to having a major disaster,” said the safety board’s vice chairman, Bruce Landsberg, during a hearing Tuesday in Washington.

Underscoring the severity of the incident, the NTSB’s top aviation-safety staffer, John DeLisi, said it was the first time the board considered a major investigation for an event in which there were no injuries or damaged planes.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/7f49240fff6d4146a809162fc1d75733/NTSB-faults-Air-Canada-pilots-for-last-year's-near-disaster

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NTSB faults Air Canada pilots for last year's near disaster (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2018 OP
Here's a video of the near disaster. idcdu Sep 2018 #1
Oooh. I hadn't seen the video. Only heard the audio. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2018 #2
I don't see the Air Canada plane eggplant Sep 2018 #3
There's a very thin stip of lights at the top left going across the screen. Then dark area of water Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2018 #4
I was looking at the Frontier plane in foreground as well. alphafemale Sep 2018 #7
Wow! paleotn Sep 2018 #5
Retired airline pilot here. That is WAY too close. trof Sep 2018 #6
NTSB Report Suburban Warrior Sep 2018 #8
Another newscast said... CanSocDem Sep 2018 #9
Gosh around these parts taxi way lights are a very distinct BLUE.............. Bengus81 Sep 2018 #10

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
2. Oooh. I hadn't seen the video. Only heard the audio.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:10 PM
Sep 2018

That could have been the worst disaster in aviation history.






Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
4. There's a very thin stip of lights at the top left going across the screen. Then dark area of water
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:44 PM
Sep 2018

Then another row of lights immediately this side of the water. That’s the other planes lined up on the taxiway.

The taxiway (and the runways) ends at the water line at screen center right. The Air Canada plane comes in over the bay high and in the center of the screen . You can see its landing lights reflecting on the bay as it approaches.

The Air Canada plane over flies the aircraft on the taxiway. The AC landing lights even reflect on the ground between two of the standing aircraft at one point.

Approaching with reflection on water



In the go around . The aircraft directly to the left of my circle has illuminated his landing lights to warn the approaching AC aircraft. The tail emblem lights are visible on the next airplanes in line

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. I was looking at the Frontier plane in foreground as well.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:54 PM
Sep 2018

That had to be terrifying for those pilots to see coming at them.

And agree that would have likely involved several aircraft and bee a massive loss of life.

People went home and hugged their loved ones. I am sure.

Suburban Warrior

(405 posts)
8. NTSB Report
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:45 PM
Sep 2018

This near disaster could have been avoided if the crew tuned the ILS frequency for the correct runway into the FMS, which is standard practice for most airlines.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
9. Another newscast said...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 06:47 AM
Sep 2018


....the pilot had been awake for 19 hours. As an old truck driver, I know the effects of fatigue and this was a pretty good example.


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Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
10. Gosh around these parts taxi way lights are a very distinct BLUE..............
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:44 AM
Sep 2018

And runway lights are white. Not sure how they got the two mixed up.

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