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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:37 AM Oct 2018

Trump rips Dems' embrace of Medicare for all: 'The centrist Democratic Party is dead'

Source: The Hill



BY MICHAEL BURKE - 10/10/18 07:19 AM EDT

President Trump on Wednesday attacked Democrats over their embrace of "Medicare for all," writing in an op-ed for USA Today that the plan would threaten seniors and likening the single-payer plan to radical socialism.

"The Democrats' plan means that after a life of hard work and sacrifice, seniors would no longer be able to depend on the benefits they were promised," Trump wrote. "In practice, the Democratic Party’s so-called Medicare for All would really be Medicare for None. Under the Democrats' plan, today’s Medicare would be forced to die."

Democrats have promised that the Medicare for All plan would improve health-care benefits for seniors and other U.S. citizens. The plan would also expand Medicare to cover almost everyone, Democrats have said. But Trump wrote that Democrats' preference for the single-payer health-care system shows that the "centrist Democratic party is dead."

"The new Democrats are radical socialists who want to model America’s economy after Venezuela," he wrote.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/410698-trump-rips-dems-embrace-of-medicare-for-all-the-centrist-democratic-party

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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
2. Trump should tread lightly with the comparisons to Venezuela
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:49 AM
Oct 2018

Hugo Chavez' daughter is their UN ambassador.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Yes, and this shows the pubs feel a real need to push back on this idea.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:53 PM
Oct 2018

The label, "Medicare for All," has the same appeal of something very familiar and of seeming a simple little matter, no big change, to Republican voters as it does to Democrats.

Lol. Bet the Repubs are jealous that they couldn't use it for something they wanted to put over, but calling an end to coverage for preexisting conditions "Medicare for All" would probably be pushing "sucker" way too far even for their base.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Lol. Marketing it with that label might turn out to be the most
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:13 PM
Oct 2018

effective thing Sanders has ever done. The bill's not a developed plan and only has a little token handful of cosponsors. And I confess that, being on Medicare ourselves with deductibles and needing to purchase 3 additional policies apiece, I didn't initially admire the deception involved with this name at the time.

But now I do. It's only a name, yet already is popular with a majority of people across the nation. Anti-tax billionaires are obviously worrying that Republican voters like it. And on the left, Medicare for All isn't socialized medicine any more than the ACA is, but for some paying a bill with "Medicare" at the top will seem an advance, so whatever. Presumably to replace the ACA it'd be one policy (including medication!) with a much larger monthly bill to replace the 4 policies each we now have to purchase, Medicare, Medicare supplement, medication, and dental.

Now, if only SCOTUS doesn't declare vital parts unconstitutional, including the real Medicare and the ACA.

Ohiogal

(31,997 posts)
5. So, the Party of Stupid
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 08:24 AM
Oct 2018

would rather have NO health care or only health care for the rich? We're still waiting for the Party of Stupid to come up with that "beautiful health plan" that "costs less" and "covers everyone" that Dumpy promised us two years ago.

SunSeeker

(51,551 posts)
6. No, Venezuela does not have Medicare for All. Canada is a more apt analogy.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:19 AM
Oct 2018

It is Trump who has dictatorial impulses like the leader of Venezuela.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
7. No, the centrist Republican party is dead.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:27 AM
Oct 2018

Republicans have gone so far to the right they don't even know what a centrist is anymore.

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
8. The so-called Centrist Democratic Party is indeed dead. We are democratic socialists, and we are
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:46 AM
Oct 2018

determined to reverse the decent into oligarchy and proto-fascism that the Republican Party has supported as the only way for a minority party to maintain control of the majority.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
11. "The new Democrats are radical socialists who want to model America's economy after Venezuela," HA !
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:39 PM
Oct 2018

No, more like Denmark, Sweden, Norway !!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
13. We cannot let them define Medicare-for-all as we've let them define other things
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:05 PM
Oct 2018

ACA : Obamacare
Earned benefits: Entitlements
Anti-fa(scists): fascists
Real news : fake news
fake news : real news


But Trump is taking advantage of the inner fight in the party to embrace the concept of Medicare for all, and all the 'socialism' tag baggage that comes with it.

Its time the Democrats got off the pot. And get ahead of this and not let Trump and Republicans establish a definition.

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