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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:31 PM Nov 2018

Canada registers sixfold increase in US citizens seeking asylum in 2017 Article title

Source: The Guardian

Tiroude and Gislyne are Haitians by birth and migrants by necessity.

The couple’s 18-month-old daughter, however, was born in Fort Lauderdale, and – as an American by birth – she is part of a growing number of US citizens seeking refuge in Canada.

In 2017, some 2,550 US citizens applied for asylum in Canada – an increase of more than sixfold from 2016 and the largest such number since at least 1994, according to data from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada.

Americans were the third largest contingent of asylum seekers in 2017, after Haitians and Nigerians. The vast majority are children born to Haitian parents, according to experts.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/14/us-citizens-seeking-asylum-canada-increases-immigration-refugees

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Canada registers sixfold increase in US citizens seeking asylum in 2017 Article title (Original Post) Julian Englis Nov 2018 OP
If I were 20 years younger I'd be up there right now, and I wouldn't need asylum. George II Nov 2018 #1
I thought about it in 2016. I haven't counted it out. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #2
Same here iluvtennis Nov 2018 #6
It is too cold for me, or I would go. Equinox Moon Nov 2018 #8
Toronto has a relatively moderate climate..... George II Nov 2018 #16
15 celsius (60F) here in Victoria today. OnlinePoker Nov 2018 #17
I've read that they don't want retirees Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #3
Not sure, but I think that would be in your (friend's) favour! luvtheGWN Nov 2018 #7
If I'm not mistaken (and I'm not), Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #10
C'mon up the water's fine! Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #4
I used to live in Vancouver, BC. Lovely place. Too cold for me though. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #20
Too cold? That's funny- I'm from California Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #21
LOL Monterey is too cold for me too. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #26
Very, very glad I'm here and not back home. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #5
I've thought about it. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #9
Oh, my "friend" and I hadn't thought about that. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #11
It might be fairly simple. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #12
You've given this a LOT of thought, haven't you ?? Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #13
Yes, I have. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #24
That getting sick issue is a big one though! n/t moonscape Nov 2018 #23
As someone who does have PR, EllieBC Nov 2018 #19
If you qualify for PR status, you could earn citizenship Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #22
I probably should do that. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #25
I vote for Canada to invade us. Marie Marie Nov 2018 #14
I would never be allowed to become a citizen of another country any country. Doreen Nov 2018 #15
I can certainly see the attraction... SunSeeker Nov 2018 #18
Canada would be fine, but I'd prefer the Netherlands, Germany, or Ireland. a la izquierda Nov 2018 #27

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Toronto has a relatively moderate climate.....
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:35 AM
Nov 2018

....right now it's 25 degrees in Boston, 33 degrees in New York, and 27 degrees in Toronto.

Toronto gets an average of 47 inches of snow annually, NYC from 36-48 inches, Boston 43 inches. On the other hand, Buffalo (about 90 driving miles/50 as the crow flies miles away) gets an average of about 100 inches of snow.

But ALL of these temperatures may be too cold for you (not where you are)!

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
3. I've read that they don't want retirees
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:46 PM
Nov 2018

But what if you have a verifiable long-term income ?

Anyone know ? (Cuz I'm asking for a friend. )

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
7. Not sure, but I think that would be in your (friend's) favour!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:23 PM
Nov 2018

Also, look into your (friend's) family history. There might be some Canucks lurking there somewhere

Fiendish Thingy

(15,649 posts)
4. C'mon up the water's fine!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:53 PM
Nov 2018

Moved to BC in 2012, became citizens this year, and haven't regretted a single day

Fiendish Thingy

(15,649 posts)
21. Too cold? That's funny- I'm from California
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:00 AM
Nov 2018

And I find the BC Summer's too hot, compared to the Monterey Bay.

Jedi Guy

(3,239 posts)
5. Very, very glad I'm here and not back home.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:56 PM
Nov 2018

I came to Canada in 2012, and have only regretted it a few times (the depths of winter, for instance). Given the insanity going on in the States, I think I made the right call.

Gonna go for citizenship this spring, most likely.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,871 posts)
9. I've thought about it.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:06 AM
Nov 2018

Looking on line, I think I might qualify for permanent resident status, although probably not for citizenship. I should probably have a pleasant conversation with the nearest Canadian embassy.

I also wonder if I were to simply move north and rent an apartment, and never return to the United States, how likely am I to be caught? I wouldn't be seeking employment. The other issue would be health insurance, and I don't know exactly how Canada does this. In this country I'm on Medicare, with an Advantage plan, which is probably useless in Canada. In terms of paying rent and my daily expenses, I'm more than capable. I am extremely healthy, but of course that could change or I could fall in the driveway and break an arm (that happened to me about nine years ago) and how would I pay for that?

Yeah, I should look into this more seriously.

I think I could pass a basic French language test, if that would help.

Otherwise, I think there might be an excellent market opportunity for older Canadian men to temporarily marry older American women like me, to make us legal.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,871 posts)
12. It might be fairly simple.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:16 AM
Nov 2018

If you can't get your Social Security or other income sources deposited to a bank in Canada, you get them deposited to a bank in the states. Then you simply write a check to yourself every month off the U.S. bank deposit to the Canadian one. Honestly, the only issue would be if you get sick.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,871 posts)
24. Yes, I have.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:25 AM
Nov 2018

I'm afraid to ask too many questions of those who can answer them for fear of drawing too much attention to myself.

EllieBC

(3,031 posts)
19. As someone who does have PR,
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:56 AM
Nov 2018

you wouldn’t be able to find work or get health care. Contrary to rumours, they won’t just treat you and not bill you if you aren’t a citizen or resident.

I live in a small town outside of Vancouver and just last week RCMP picked up someone and brought them to Canadian border services for overstaying a visa. You don’t want that. They won’t let you in again. Do it properly. Canadians are friendly but they like it when people follow the rules.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,649 posts)
22. If you qualify for PR status, you could earn citizenship
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:04 AM
Nov 2018

They just relaxed the rules- you have to be in the country a total of 3 years, pay taxes, no crimes, and, depending on your age, pass the exam.

Contact a reputable immigration lawyer to get an informed opinion.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,871 posts)
25. I probably should do that.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:28 AM
Nov 2018

I'm currently on hold while my son completes his PhD in astronomy. While I genuinely love living in Santa Fe, in the long run I don't want to be too far from him. He is currently on the east coast. A lot depends on where he winds up after grad school.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
15. I would never be allowed to become a citizen of another country any country.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:29 AM
Nov 2018

I am disabled and receive benefits. I would love to live in Canada, I would love to move back to Germany also but that will never happen.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
27. Canada would be fine, but I'd prefer the Netherlands, Germany, or Ireland.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:17 AM
Nov 2018

France too, if I could find a cheap place to fix up in Normandy.

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