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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:19 PM Dec 2018

WH Official: UN Ambassador Will Be Downgraded To Non-Cabinet Position

Source: Talking Points Memo/The AP



By DEB RIECHMANN

December 7, 2018 1:44 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — A White House official says the Trump administration is downgrading the U.S. diplomatic post at the United Nations to a non-Cabinet position.

President Donald Trump on Friday announced that he had chosen State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert to be the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

If confirmed, the former Fox News Channel reporter who has little foreign policy experience would replace Nikki Haley, a former South Carolina governor who said she was stepping down at the end of the year.

While Nauert will be a leading administration voice on Trump’s foreign policy, a White House official told The Associated Press that her post would be a non-Cabinet position. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the change.

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WH Official: UN Ambassador Will Be Downgraded To Non-Cabinet Position (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2018 OP
Is he trying to avoid Senate confirmation? C_U_L8R Dec 2018 #1
Don't think he can onenote Dec 2018 #2
Whether cabinet level or no, the position still requires Senate confirmation. hlthe2b Dec 2018 #3
Oh good. This should be funny. C_U_L8R Dec 2018 #4
yes....I'm sure the UN Sectretary General will be thoroughly "impressed" to receive her credentials. hlthe2b Dec 2018 #7
I have a different theory. He's trying to hurt Nikki Haley. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #5
"See, anybody can do that job." says trump TeamPooka Dec 2018 #8
Something like that, yeah. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #16
He's already proven that any idiot can become President. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #17
Haley is as much an opportunist as the Idiot is onetexan Dec 2018 #18
It was a good move that put a feather in her cap. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #23
While i agree with most of what u said onetexan Dec 2018 #25
Or it could help her due to the contrast especially if her replacement is a complete failure karynnj Dec 2018 #22
That and the 25th Amendment jberryhill Dec 2018 #9
hmm, downgrades the position, then appoints a woman. . . typical sexist bs from the sexual niyad Dec 2018 #6
Exactly what I thought. Doreen Dec 2018 #11
Wasn't his last UN ambassador also a woman, and that was before the position was downgraded? hughee99 Dec 2018 #29
yes, but you are missing the point. niyad Dec 2018 #31
Is the point that he downgraded the positions and appointed a women hughee99 Dec 2018 #33
UN Ambassador is a cabinet position??? Takket Dec 2018 #10
Yes if the President wants it to be hack89 Dec 2018 #12
Of course it's Bolton. nt EleanorR Dec 2018 #14
Under some administrations yes EleanorR Dec 2018 #13
I trust the U.N. will take note of this, and hold this country in even lower esteem. (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #15
I'm not sure it can go lower /nt sdfernando Dec 2018 #19
Please, never under estimate the power of Mr. Donald Trump. Much lower is indeed possible. Stuart G Dec 2018 #30
I think the GOP holds the U.N. in low esteem. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #20
Yes. Trumpers want the U.S. to withdraw from the U.N. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #24
Seeing all the photos of Donnie Short Fingers groping Heather maxrandb Dec 2018 #21
I'm sure UN Barbie will be given the respect she deserves GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #26
Maybe the name will be changed, too DeminPennswoods Dec 2018 #27
Maybe I'm bring paranoid but ... Odoreida Dec 2018 #28
he has a puke majority in the senate. niyad Dec 2018 #32
Not all would necessarily go along with a pull out from the UN ... Odoreida Dec 2018 #34
Can't help agreeing that "the former Fox News Channel" personality needs downgrading. mpcamb Dec 2018 #35

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
1. Is he trying to avoid Senate confirmation?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:21 PM
Dec 2018

I was looking forward to some basic grilling of the pr flaks' qualifications.

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
7. yes....I'm sure the UN Sectretary General will be thoroughly "impressed" to receive her credentials.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:34 PM
Dec 2018

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. I have a different theory. He's trying to hurt Nikki Haley.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:30 PM
Dec 2018

Haley is one name that is being bandied about by Republicans as a possible future Presidential candidate.

It's possible Trump wants to hurt her as much as possible w/o actually being seen attacking her, to make sure she doesn't run in 2020.

She was a Governor. But another feather in her cap was a cabinet position as the Ambassador to the U N, an important ambassadorship. She also scored some accomplishments there.

Naming a Fox Bunnie to the job, and downgrading the position, would somewhat take away the ambassadorship credentials.

Just my theory, knowing how paranoid and petty Trump is.

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
18. Haley is as much an opportunist as the Idiot is
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:50 PM
Dec 2018

anyone who accepted to work in this administration has got to have their head examined. Wonder what she'll be doing after this UN gig.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. It was a good move that put a feather in her cap.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 10:49 AM
Dec 2018

It gave her national and international exposure and experience, and she managed to traverse the divide between the real world and Trump's mind, and get out on a high note w/o a fight w/Trump. That's unusual in his administration. She has high approval ratings.

Knowing how petty, insecure, and paranoid he is, he is the type to try to damage someone before she has the opportunity to take anything away from him.

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
25. While i agree with most of what u said
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:16 AM
Dec 2018

I dont agree with the part about her having high approval ratings. She took the job to raise her profile, did the criminal's bidding @the UN repeatedly, made blatant excuses for his damaging policies and stances on the global stage, and got out while the going was good when she couldn't stomach it anymore. She like all the other spineless GOP did nothing to stand up to this man's continuing destruction of our democracy.

Forgot to add, do note how she criticized him repeatedly during the 2016 elections. Then all of a sudden when she was offered a job in his admin, she lost her spine and became his advocate. Shameless.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
22. Or it could help her due to the contrast especially if her replacement is a complete failure
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 10:44 AM
Dec 2018

Then if he is doing poorly, he might replace Pence with Haley.

niyad

(113,278 posts)
6. hmm, downgrades the position, then appoints a woman. . . typical sexist bs from the sexual
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:33 PM
Dec 2018

predator in chief.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. Is the point that he downgraded the positions and appointed a women
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 06:49 PM
Dec 2018

Because he’s sexist, even though last time, he also appointed a women and didn’t downgrade the position?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. Yes if the President wants it to be
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:52 PM
Dec 2018
Eisenhower raised the ambassadorship to cabinet rank in order to give Lodge direct access to him without having to go through the State Department.[2]

The Ambassadorship continued to hold this status through the Ford, Carter, and Reagan administrations but was removed from cabinet rank by George H. W. Bush, who had previously held the position himself. It was restored under the Clinton administration. It was not a cabinet-level position under the George W. Bush administration (from 2001 to 2009),[3][4] but was once again elevated under the Obama administration, and retained as such by the Trump administration.[5]

Former UN Ambassador (and current National Security Advisor) John R. Bolton has publicly opposed the granting of cabinet-level status to the office, stating "One, it overstates the role and importance the U.N. should have in U.S. foreign policy, second, you shouldn't have two secretaries in the same department".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ambassador_to_the_United_Nations

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
30. Please, never under estimate the power of Mr. Donald Trump. Much lower is indeed possible.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 07:25 PM
Dec 2018

I am sad to say the above, but I believe that can happen and will happen.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. Yes. Trumpers want the U.S. to withdraw from the U.N.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 10:51 AM
Dec 2018

They are "nationalists." They don't want the U.S. to be concerned with any other country, except insofar as we get money from trade or taxes or whatever.

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
21. Seeing all the photos of Donnie Short Fingers groping Heather
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 09:57 AM
Dec 2018

I think this was a demand from the "First Nude" to keep Heather away from the White House.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
28. Maybe I'm bring paranoid but ...
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:37 PM
Dec 2018

The thought occurs to me that Trump is fixing to withdraw the USA from the UN.

He'd need a majority of the senate, of course.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
34. Not all would necessarily go along with a pull out from the UN ...
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:01 PM
Dec 2018

... In particular, the Neocon types.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
35. Can't help agreeing that "the former Fox News Channel" personality needs downgrading.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:38 PM
Dec 2018

Even a broken clock and all that...

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