Trump threatens to shut down the government as he argues with Pelosi and Schumer in front of cameras

[DonViejo]

Source: Politico



By SARAH FERRIS, BURGESS EVERETT and CAITLIN OPRYSKO 12/11/2018 08:54 AM EST Updated
12/11/2018 11:40 AM EST

Update: President Donald Trump on Tuesday threatened to shut down large parts of the federal government over funding for his proposed border wall, openly quarreling with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi in an extraordinary exchange that unfolded before the press in the Oval Office.

Trump has railed against congressional Democrats for refusing to agree to his demand for $5 billion for a border wall, but on Tuesday he asserted that "one way or another it is going to be built" and that he would have "no other choice" but to shut down the government if he doesn't get enough funding for the wall.

"I am proud to shut down the government for border security," Trump said.

This story will be updated.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/11/trump-border-wall-congress-budget-1055433

[Corgigal]

1. Yeah, those ten terrorist.

You would think the FBI would announce their names by now. Sure, I'll wait for that.

[pangaia]

2. I wish Nancy would have just punched him in the face.

[Perseus]

22. I wish Nancy Pelosi would tell him to talk to Mexico, according to him

Mexico will pay for the wall, that should be his first stop, he needs to show his base what a great negotiator he is, so go ahead and demand that Mexico pay for it. Why does he need 5b from the USA? Mexico has the checkbook ready to sign that 5b for him, right?

[Pobeka]

60. + infinity

They need to shove his "Mexico will pay for it" right back in his face. On camera would have been delicious.

[pangaia]

71. I don;t know why they don't do that....

[fierywoman]

58. I wish Nancy could have told him her momma taught her it was rude

to interrupt someone when they're talking!

[catbyte]

3. Yep, Il Douche certainly is an A-1 dealmaker.

Good plan! Threaten the party with subpoena power now. Keep it up, Donald.

[still_one]

4. Trump thinks this will play the public.

[dubyadiprecession]

5. Ask your own party for the votes, dipshit!

Did you forget your party is still in the majority till Jan 3rd?!
Trump is such a sad, pathetic, loser!

[Timmygoat]

6. And then there was Pence

What was his purpose, he did not open his mouth or move, was he there for window dressing?

[usaf-vet]

28. Mother told him to sit quietly and don't misbehave!

[PeeJ52]

7. Yeah... I'll make everyone miserable if I don't get my way.

That always works for me. I wonder who will get blamed for making everyone miserable?

[HumblePi]

8. well, that was special

Trump absolutely needs to get his 30 billion for the wall because he knows it's the last chance he has to keep his base happy, without it they won't stick with him. He admitted that he's willing to shut down the government unless he gets it, that's all there is, no more negotiating. He needs to fulfill his political promise. Trump even stated that they stopped 'ten terrorists' because of the new wall. Of course, there is no 'new' wall, it's replacing sections of wall that were deteriorated or missing, but it was replaced with the same border wall as the rest of it, not the big soaring concrete structures that we've seen as prototypes which cost $1 million each to construct.

The Congress gave him 1.6 billion last year for the wall and so far the government has only spent 6% of that money.....six percent! Shutting down the government now is not going to sit right with his Republican Congress either. A government shutdown doesn't really have any immediate effect on people's lives. It delays military checks and they get paid twice a month so most shutdowns don't last more than a couple of weeks anyway.

OVERALL: In shutdowns, non-essential government employees are often furloughed, or placed on temporary unpaid leave. Workers deemed essential, including those in public safety and national security, keep working, some with pay and others without.

[watoos]

9. I read where Pelosi and Schumer offered a little over a billion for the wall.

If this is true, I'm against it. A bad idea is a bad idea, putting less money toward a bad idea is a bad idea.

[still_one]

11. That is somewhat accurate. It is 1.3 billion, and it is for border security, not the wall as I

understand it.

When the Democrats requested extra money to beef up Libyan security in the embassy, the repukes refused, and we all know the tradgedy that happened from that

[VWolf]

12. I think that was the figure for border security in general,

not specifically the wall. But I could be wrong.

[still_one]

14. That is correct VWolf, but I am sure the propaganda will lie and distort the facts

[fierywoman]

59. And what was being done before Nov 2017 that kept the numbers 78%LOWER ?

[Cha]

62. I don't give a Shite What ted rall

has to say about Anything.

[still_one]

63. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[Cha]

65. So you

know?

[still_one]

67. Not really, but he said President Obama should resign in 2009, and that tells me all I need to know

about this jerk

[Cha]

68. Exactly. I had to get

someone to delete a racist 'toon of his on President Obama back then.

That's all I needed to know.. plus his tweet reeked of gaslit self-serving crap.

[still_one]

70. Thanks for the info Cha

[mac56]

42. You are correct.

[Faygo Kid]

10. "Go ahead, make my day."

"You've got to ask yourself a question: 'do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"

Do ya, Trump? There's a new sheriff in town, ya weasel.

[Atticus]

27. Great post! And, if Trump is going to call them "Nancy" and "Chuck", they should

definitely refer to him as "Donald", especially since her reportedly hate being called that.

[slater71]

13. Shut it down fatboy shut it down.

[Auggie]

15. "It's my ball, and if you don't play by my rules, then no one plays," barked the child.

[HumblePi]

16. The Caravan

Everything I've read and observed regarding the caravan of thousands convinced me that this was a major effort funded by a special interest group in order to sway public opinion. Now who has a dog in that fight? The Republicans and specifically Trump. Coordinating thousands of people together at the same time takes money, takes organization and it takes time.

It's not a coincidence that a government shutdown was looming and all this happened just weeks before the midterm elections. It only takes a handful of organizers with a lot of money to hand out the people in Honduras and Guatemala with promises of amnesty in the U.S. to get people hopeful it's going to happen. Many of the people in the caravan admitted to being given money to travel plus clothes and food. They also confessed to being told they would be given asylum as long as they learned these words in English. "I am seeking asylum because my life is in danger in my country." These people were told they would be admitted to the U.S. for processing and given food, clothing, shelter and health care while they awaited their Visa. It was orchestrated, that's pretty much a sure thing.

The money that the Democrats offered would pay for addition bollard-type walls, just as we have throughout the Southern border. Trump promised the 'big beautiful wall' like one of the prototypes and those would cost far in excess of the 30 billion he's demanding.

[gtar100]

54. That's pretty damn significant if true!

Not unprecedented that republicans concoct situations to try to sell their point.

[SunSeeker]

17. Trump promised he'd make Mexico pay for it. We must continually remind him of that.

And hold him to it.

[Oneironaut]

21. Nobody cares anymore. The media ignores that fact, and will chastise the Democrats for "shutting the

government down.” Mark my words.

[SunSeeker]

38. I still care. nt

[niyad]

18. CAN he actually do this???? under what statute or law?

[niyad]

19. here comes the whaaaaambulance:

[Oneironaut]

20. Trump knows the Democrats will be blamed for the shutdown anyways.

A shutdown will help Trump’s poll numbers in 2020. Of course, so will a border wall. He’s controlling the narrative again like an evil genius. You have to give Trump credit for that.

[DrToast]

31. That's insane

When have Democrats ever been blamed for shutting down the government. And why on Earth would they be blamed for this, when Trump promised Mexico would pay for it.

[harumph]

34. BULLSHIT

[LanternWaste]

46. Nope. Trump alone now owns any shutdown...

Nope. Trump alone now owns any shutdown after saying to the nation on television he'd be proud to shut the government down.

He can't walk that back.

He can try to.

He'll fail.

[bluestarone]

48. I disagree with your post 100%

Why would anyone here think RUMP would benefit???

[mountain grammy]

23. Mexico will pay for the wall, right individual #1?

Fuck you donnie and your little friend. Go get em, Nancy!

[Atticus]

24. Near the end, when asked about search for new COS, Trump said there was "no rush".

He was then asked "Why is there no rush?" and replied "Because we already have a very fine Chief of Staff serving in that position."

The next obvious question not asked: "If Kelly is 'very fine' why are you replacing him?"

Hello----?

[The Liberal Lion]

25. SHUT IT DOWN!

Hold the line democrats and you better not flinch. Give not one inch to that orange madman. This is war and at least some of us are ready to fight. Shut it down!

[usaf-vet]

26. Someone remind him he is not playing in the small sand box.....

where bullying, out lawyering, bribing, threatening, lying and out and out cheating will win the day.

This is not your NY real estate sand box.

The Constitution grants the legislative branch of government equal rights for governing.

The MAJORITY of the country does not want your stupid 5 BILLION dollar wall.

The MAJORITY of the country is not ruled by fear.

Terrorist, Terrorist, Terrorist is not a winning argument.

If you really want a wall, wait it won't be long before before you will securely be behind four walls top with razor wire.

[erpowers]

29. Why Not Go to Mexico?

I wish Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer would have asked Donald Trump why he is not going to Mexico to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Throughout the campaign Trump claimed that he would force Mexico to pay for the wall. Okay, so why is Mexico not paying for the wall. Didn't he claim, after being elected, that there were things he could do to make Mexico pay for the wall. Okay, well then force Mexico to pay for the wall.

[brooklynite]

30. "I am proud to shut down the Government" will make a great video clip...

A Reality TV star should remember that it's not the performance, it's the production editing that tells the story.

[Wellstone ruled]

32. Well,Senate control just

guaranteed to the Democrats in 2020.

[Honeycombe8]

33. The old fellow is having a temper tantrum and acting out, poor thing. nt

[harumph]

35. Let him do it.

Call his bluff.

[elmac]

45. yep, and I hope the Dems never, ever give in or try to work with this POS

it should be total war against the fascists.

[LanternWaste]

36. He seemed so small with Pelosi in the room.

His bluster came across as little more than weak petulance by his inability to choose and dictate the narrative in the room over the wishes of the Democratic leadership.

[AndJusticeForSome]

37. Where's the whole video?

I wish they'd do this more often. No need to hide these kind of exchanges!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

39. The version on Fox News, which we're not supposed to talk about, ran for 16:38.

Don't click here, as you will see the video if you do.

[AndJusticeForSome]

41. Maybe cspan will have it? nt

[mahatmakanejeeves]

47. I'm sure they do. I just followed the first link that showed up at Google News.

It's in the Video & Multimedia Forum now, as a clip from CNN.

[Blue Owl]

40. Hold your breath, Tantrump...

Keep holding it... holding... holding... holding... holding... holding...

[bluestarone]

49. Yea like 10 mins. past BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[elmac]

43. tRump talks the talk

but he never walks the walk. Hartmann today has it right, trump is acting like a professional wrestler and the so called press is eating it up.

[turbinetree]

50. It's was amazing to watch "two" adults try to talk to a "baby" and then the other asshole with

white hair sitting there like a bump on log, just staring and thinking: Am I going to get his job.........................don't think so..........................your a criminal also................

And the best part was Pelosi putting this asshole in his place...............just bird dogging the shit out of him......................then Chuck chimes in..........................




January 3, 2019 cannot get here fast enough........................

[muriel_volestrangler]

51. He went for the "dirty foreigners spreading disease" slur

Link to tweet

Go on, Individual 1, accuse them of poisoning wells, while you're about it.

[Talitha]

53. And when the camera angle was wide enough, there sits Pence...

Spanky's ever-adoring Handmaiden.

[Hugin]

55. I'm beginning to believe it goes beyond a promise to his base, and...

Is more likely related to a promise to pay off some old Trump debts via some juicy no-bid construction contracts to shady underworld figures.

Old Yeller could care less about his "base" or his "promises".

This seems more like he's living under the threat of some good old fashioned mob knee-capping.

One way or another a contract is going to be fulfilled.

[ffr]

56. The Mexican government? I'd love to see him try.

[appleannie1943]

57. If I don't get my way, I will stomp my feet and bang my head on the floor.

[Dave Starsky]

61. They need to mercilessly ridicule "The Deal Maker"...

Over his complete inability to get Mexico to pay for it, as he promised about 500 times

Art of the Deal, my ass. As Grandpa says, Trump couldn't negotiate a fuck in a brothel.

[UrbanProspector]

64. Dolt45 is a spoiled brat,

this public display confirms what we've always known even before this orange moron was (s)elected.

[Cold War Spook]

66. Boats and planes

boats and planes, boats and planes. And how would a wall stop boats and planes?

[Bengus81]

69. Go for it Trump!!!

You SAID over and over you'd take the heat and blame.

[Beartracks]

72. Trump fans think he's "genius" to force liberals, on camera, to...

... admit they "don't support national security."



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[jmowreader]

73. If he shuts down the government, this needs to happen

The Army needs to park a Patriot launcher at each end of the runway at Andrews AFB to keep Trump from flying out to play golf during a shutdown.

[mahina]

74. Of course he wants to shut down the government. How else

Can he stop the investigations?