A federal judge rules in Robert Mueller's favor in a secret case

[mobeau69]

Source: CNN

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[Wellstone ruled]

1. Bank Records ?

Oh boy.

[MontanaMama]

4. I think you're on to something there.

Please be true.

[wryter2000]

6. Deutsche Bank?

Just guessing.

[kstewart33]

7. Or Alfa Bank. nt

[beastie boy]

46. Neither Alfa nor Deutsche are owned by their respective governments

My guess is either Cyprus bank, Central Bank of UAE, Qatar Investment Authority, Sberbank (Russia), or one of the four banks owned by the government of China.

One suspect is just as good as any other.

On edit: if I had to pick, it would be Cyprus. Cyprus has a reputation of being a laundromat for Russian dirty money.

On second edit: Wilbur Ross, Trump's Secretary of Commerce, used to be a VP at Bank of Cyprus. He may be singing to Mueller, or under a sealed indictment, or both.

[orangecrush]

50. Dang, you're good!

[SunSeeker]

47. Yep, the bank with the pinging server linked to Trump Tower. nt

[wryter2000]

58. Yeah

Good guess.

[thesquanderer]

9. That was my guess as well. (n/t)

[Wellstone ruled]

14. Oh the Popcorn Market just exploded.

As well as the Beer markets.

[erronis]

52. I'm a survivalist. I've laid in 500 cases of wine and beer and 100# of popcorn and quiches

just to ride out the trump-shit that will hit the fan. It will stink for a while but then everything will come up roses.

[Wellstone ruled]

53. Remember not to keep the beer more than

ninety days,something about getting skunkie. He he.

[FarPoint]

20. That was my immediate first thought..

This is getting juicy!

[MiddleClass]

32. tie this with private server at Trump Tower that Mueller already subpoenaed

another server that was connected at Margo
another server from a Internet provider located in Pennsylvania that sent packets to this German bank.
Another server from an Internet provider located in Virginia that sent packets to Russia ( don't know if it was St. Petersburg)

all already subpoenaed and confiscated As reported 2 months ago on Rachel, seems like Mueller is on to something, I wonder if it's criminal? We know it's international related, sounds like the racketeers are about to be racked.

Possibilities of secret indictments, tied with Trump losing his mind on twitter, it looks like a storm is brewing.

[BigmanPigman]

43. Most of the political pundits agree...BANKS!

[George II]

2. That might have been the case for which they cleared one floor of the courthouse last Friday.

[MiddleClass]

34. I think they cleared the floor today also,

don't know, but I was typing in an earlier response when I heard about the court room being cleared on MSNBC

[wryter2000]

3. Could this be what the great mystery was about last week?

I have no idea what it could be, and I always guess wrong.

[ancianita]

5. Great. Our government and country wins out over a foreign corporation. Can't wait to see which one.

[Drunken Irishman]

8. D'eutche!

[ananda]

10. Deutsche Bank?

nt

[underpants]

51. Or Cypress

If they get to Cypress it's over.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Wouldn't be Deutsche Bank because it's a company owned by a country,

and Deutsche Bank isn't owned by Germany. Maybe Alfa?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. The Bank of Cyprus is (was?) owned by Wilbur Ross, tRump's Commerce Secretary.

I think he put it in a trust or divested, but I don't think it is owned by Cyprus.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. Yes, I double-checked that & changed it.

But I bet they're dirty. The bank in question is probably Russian, Saudi or Chinese.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Ok, thanks, for a minute there I thought I had misread it :) . . . nt

[sheshe2]

12. Just for some shits and giggles...

I will throw this one into the stewing pot.

A few of tRump businesses?

[greyl]

13. VTB or Rosneft. nt

[pnwmom]

17. Rosneft. Wouldn't THAT be something????

PJSC Rosneft Oil Company is a Russian integrated energy company headquartered in the Russian capital of Moscow. It is specializing on exploration, extraction, production, refinement, transport, and sale of petroleum, natural gas, and petroleum products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosneft

[fierywoman]

27. The Russian bank that was sanctioned that was going to lend to Trump for the Moscow tower?

[dalton99a]

24. Betcha it's Rosneft:

Steele wrote in his dossier that “a Russian source close to Rosneft President [sic] Igor Sechin” had confided details of a secret July 2016 meeting in Moscow between Sechin and Trump foreign-policy adviser Carter Page. The two had allegedly discussed bilateral energy cooperation between the United States and Russia, along with the lifting of Ukraine-related economic sanctions against Russia. As a quid pro quo, Sechin was said to have offered Page and his associates the brokerage of a 19 percent stake in Rosneft, which was due to be privatized. Page reportedly indicated that Trump, if elected president, would lift sanctions.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/was-this-russian-general-murdered-over-the-steele-dossier

[Merlot]

49. Rosneft was my first thought - our previous SOS might know something about that.

[ProudLib72]

15. Supposing it is Deutsche Bank. I have a question

Does this mean Schiff and the state AGs can also get copies?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. It wouldn't be Deutsche Bank because they are looking at a bank owned by a country.

That probably means something Russian, Saudi or Chinese.

[ProudLib72]

26. But even if it isn't DB, does this decision extend to congress and state AGs?

That's what I want to know because it seems more likely congress will get the info out there and states will be able to bring him down in short order.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. No, this is a federal grand jury subpoena, which means that the records,

if they get them, will be given only to the grand jury and will not be made public, at least for now. Mueller might decide to share the info with state AGs if related investigation are going on in those states but congressional committes will probably have to issue their own subpoenas.

[Lonestarblue]

19. Cambridge Analytica?

After their role in the 2016 was examined more, the company dissolved but is essentially doing business under a new name. It was registered as a UK company.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

23. It's registered as a UK company but it's not owned by a country.

The company they are looking at is owned by a country.

[Lonestarblue]

25. Thanks! I missed that important piece of the information.

[BlueJac]

29. Good news!

[BootinUp]

30. Rollin' Rollin' Rollin' (to the tune of Rawhide)

Keep that justice rollin’ ...

[Botany]

31. Deutsche Bank

n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

33. Sberbank?

In the fall of 2013, Agalarov collaborated with Trump to bring the Miss Universe pageant to Moscow. They spent a couple of days together while hosting the event, attending parties and dinners with the Russian elite. The result was a plan to build a $3 billion complex of hotels, shopping malls and office space in Moscow, including a tower that was to bear Trump’s name. The state’s largest lender, Sberbank, even agreed to finance around 70% of the project, which would have been the biggest commercial real estate loan in its history at the time.

http://time.com/5401645/putins-oligarchs/

PJSC Sberbank is a state-owned Russian banking and financial services company headquartered in Moscow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sberbank_of_Russia

Plus:

According to a May 23, 2017 article in Forward, Kasowitz, Benson, Torres, and Friedman has been a "go-to source" for Donald Trump for decades. He has represented Donald Trump in his divorce proceedings, bankruptcy cases, Trump University lawsuits, during the 2016 presidential campaign regarding sexual misconduct allegations, and during the Trump presidency in the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.

In Spring 2017, Kasowitz told associates that he had been personally responsible for the abrupt dismissal of U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara on March 11, 2017, having previously warned Trump, "This guy is going to get you".

Kasowitz departed Trump's White House legal team on July 20, 2017.

Russian clients
According to U.S. court records, Kasowitz's clients include the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, a close associate of Vladimir Putin and a business partner of Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort. Kasowitz also represents the Russian state-owned bank Sberbank, a bank under sanctions by the EU and the United States after Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Kasowitz#Donald_Trump

[watoos]

35. China, Russia, or Saudi bank. Maybe Turkey.

[LiberalFighter]

37. How will they be able to force another country to turn over the records?

[mobeau69]

39. They probably have assets in the US.

Merry Christmas!

[saljr1]

38. What was the name of the Bank that had suspicious activity on the Trump Organization server?

Was is Alpha Bank?

[mobeau69]

40. Yep.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html

[George II]

41. That's the one others are speculating about - Alfa Bank.

[mobeau69]

42. Looks like a strong possibility it's Alfa

The fan is buried in shit and it still keeps coming!

[JTOL]

44. Rudy's Law Firms client

Cambridge Analytica

[Kurt V.]

45. Mueller's going for a clean sweep.

a course correction

[The_jackalope]

48. IMO the top candidates are Sberbank, VEB and Rosneft

Farther back is Alfa, depending on what is meant by "owned by" a foreign country.

Saudi, Turkish and Chinese companies don't seem as likely as any of those, because they don't have as direct connections to Mueller's mandate.

[Roadside Attraction]

54. Got to be . . .

It's got to be one of four foreign banks Trump uses to launder money from Russia:
-- DeutscheBank
-- Bank of Cyprus
-- Alfa Bank
-- that Russian bank -- E-something

[mobeau69]

55. According to CNN it's a government owned entity.

[laserhaas]

56. Trump is fit to be tied

[ffr]

57. What a blockbuster day! Love reading this kind of delightful news.