Mueller Draft Report Says Trump 'Helped Putin Destabilize the United States', Watergate Journalist S
Source: Newsweek
Mueller Draft Report Says Trump 'Helped Putin Destabilize the United States', Watergate Journalist Says
Legendary journalist Carl Bernstein has said that hes been told that special counsel Robert Muellers report will show how President Donald Trump helped Russia destabilize the United States.
Bernstein, who is renowned for his coverage of the Watergate scandal that led to the resignation of former President Richard Nixon, appeared on CNNs Reliable Sources on Sunday to discuss two bombshell reports released this weekend, one from The New York Times and one from The Washington Post, which revealed new details about whether or not Trump and his aides have colluded with Russia.
The Post reported that Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal direct conversations he has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Times article revealed that the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into Trump after he fired former bureau director James Comey in 2017, suspecting the president could be working on behalf of Russia. Trump has angrily denied allegations that he worked with Russia and has regularly attacked the media for reporting on the investigation. But Bernstein slammed Trumps dismissal of the probe.
This is about the most serious counterintelligence people we have in the U.S. government saying, Oh, my God, the presidents words and actions lead us to conclude that somehow he has become a witting, unwitting, or half-witting pawn, certainly in some regards, to Vladimir Putin,' Bernstein explained during his appearance on Reliable Sources .
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/mueller-report-trump-helped-putin-destabilize-us-watergate-journalist-1289541
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)And kick.
RHMerriman
(1,376 posts)Bernstein knows DC.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Chickensoup
(650 posts)and closer. As the nose tightens around
the con,s neck.
Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)N/T
Perseus
(4,341 posts)It would be a travesty if the next president pardons the orange buffoon.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)At some point the idea of execution should be considered. How much more grave a situation is there as Americans? This should WILL never happen again. We came real close to going over the edge. If for no other reason than deterrence, it shouldn't be taken off the table, sadly. Imagine the endless yers of "I didnt do it" and "fake news" on top of it? We didnt start this fight but we are capable of ending it. Treachery of the highest order.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)"We will abolish the death penalty, which has proven to be a cruel and unusual form of punishment. It has no place in the United States of America."
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/pdf/2016DemocraticPartyPlatform.pdf
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Theres exceptions to every rule. He hurt people I know and wouldve buried you too. Im done w this family. Evil is too small a word.
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)Free to be seen by every American to see what a real traitor looks like.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)... how so called friends can be worse than enemies. Your sentences are not helpful in any way, except for the Fox News crowd, who will enjoy sharing them. You are feeding them nice talking points, helping them to grow stronger. And you are scaring any decent resistance away.
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)Amazing!
calimary
(81,222 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2019, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)
Only once-removed from Blavatniks good buddy Oleg Deripaska? Who himself is only once-removed from dear ol Vladimir?
Whats that? Three degrees of separation between McConnell and Putin himself? And this story came out a year-and-a-half ago and got picked up by exactly nobody, and went exactly nowhere. Im still kind of a news junkie and I try to pay attention, and I missed it, too.
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns
burrowowl
(17,639 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,285 posts)WOW.
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)True Dough
(17,303 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)draft report leaks isn't the mueller team style
woundedkarma
(498 posts)Yah, you're right. This is a joke of "reporting" by newsweek.
Newsweek said that Bernstein (who arguably has a pretty good record....) that someone he talked to said that maybe there's something we're all hoping for in the Mueller report.
Take it with a entire dumptruck full of salt.
Nobody really knows what's in the report until we get the actual report.
KCDebbie
(664 posts)is successful in his attempts to make Mueller's Report disappear...
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Based on ?
Dunno ...
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)I tear myself away from the headlines to make a quick run to make favorite neighborhood grocery store for the past 30+ years, only to find out its closing for good, and come home to read THIS!
Roy Rolling
(6,915 posts)Smart journalists today have been saying the same thing for two years plus. Thank God we have a First Amendment.
It's what separates us from propaganda bullshit and state-run media.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)So Bernstein is reliable about what someone told him, but depends on the source.
Mueller's team has been tight with no leaks up to now.
"Helping" Putin doesn't necessarily mean intentionally helping him or working with him. It could mean simply that what Trump did or did not do had the result of helping Putin. I think evidence so far shows that Trump was conspiring with Russians (the mtg in Trump Tower, hiring Manafort, secret meetings w/Putin, defending and praising Putin, etc.). But that's not what Bernstein said his source said.
Linda Ed
(493 posts)Never revealed who "deep throat" was.. Deep throat came out with it before he died! So yes, I would believe Bernstein over many journalist..he is legendary...that is a fact!
Forget about Fox...they are a state run entertainment media like Hannity, and a few others..I will say there are a couple of them like Shep Smith and Napaliano even Neil Cavuto once in a while give it straight news vs fake news.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)For Watergate, they verified with other sources. This was something that one person told him. He didn't say he verified it, and how would he? Maybe it's true. Maybe not. Who would have seen the Mueller draft report? And then told Bernstein? Mueller runs a tight ship. But maybe it's true.
I didn't say anything about Fox. ???
In any case, the source didn't say that the "help" was intentional or just a byproduct of stupid actions or inaction. Or if it mattered if it was unintentional.
Interesting, though.
Liberty Belle
(9,534 posts)I am sure Bernstein likely still has sources inside the FBI. He would not risk his reputation to say something like this if he wasn't damn certain his source was right.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)bonniebgood
(940 posts)PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)Shall the election of 2016 be annulled?
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)The electors cast their votes legally. Hes president, unfortunetly.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The key question is whether "helping" Putin means intentionally, or just by his selfish, stupid actions with no thought of anything but winning.
I wonder.
I also wonder if anyone in the know is really leaking part of the draft report. Mueller's team has been tight as a ship up to now. ???
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And being intentionally done by trump to please putin?
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)slumcamper
(1,606 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)ENOUGH. He's not FIT and this is not normal. Unless you want learn how to speak fucking Russian.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...if this is true, Congress needs to act, and act fast...
...GET RUSSIA OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!
...
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)For fans of "The Americans"
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republicans have betrayed America
Baltimike
(4,143 posts)blue-wave
(4,352 posts)stopped trying to destabilize our country and the democracies of the world. This destructive train wreck will continue until the PTB decide to bring the house of cards down. Until then, who knows how much suffering will be brought upon the world.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)If this were a democracy, WE'D be the PTB.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)JDC
(10,127 posts)PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)Dan
(3,554 posts)destabilize the West.
Step back and looks at his actions since taking the presidency... and make your own determination...
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)Did what occurred.
He thought he would get away with it
BUT
Hes a sociopathic fool who
Must
Be in the limelight
Constantly
And
He lies
Constantly
The more one lies
The more it becomes increasingly
Difficult to cover them
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Knowingly is malice. Unknowingly is completely stupidity.
NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)te House.
Every day it gets louder. Every day I am more encouraged
And Donnie Two Scoops can hear it in his mind too. It only makes him feel more trapped
GusBob
(7,286 posts)They play the long game and work their assets slowly wittingly, willingly or not.
They got him elected for a reason
I always thought the reason was they were afraid of
HRC
This makes more sense
He knew Clinton could not be compromised and corrupted. Also, dont forget that putin drummed up support for Obama in 2008 against mccain. Putin hated mccain with passion and thought obama being the first black president would help him to destabilize the country. He was funding both white supremacists and black radical movements. In 2012, putin turned against romney due to his vile anti-russia stance. In 2008, Obama was very much in support of good relationship with russia all the way through 2012. Then, of course, Magnitsky happened and obama became mortal enemy. Putins long game paid off big time, his skills in political technologies worldwide are insanely dangerous. He is reshaping Europe in real time.
Texin
(2,596 posts)As far as Putin "hating" one pol over another, I don't think the passion runs that deep in this man. He's a strategic operator. He uses those he can co-opt and tries to minimize those he knows he can't. And he goes about it using the medium in which they operate. He doesn't get emotionally or intellectually twisted when he's planning how he's going to get back at people who have opposed him. He's totally sang froid. Clinton and Obama were intelligent enough to figure that out and they paid attention to the information they were briefed on by the intelligence communities.
Kablooie
(18,631 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)Doodley
(9,088 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:11 AM - Edit history (1)
He headed departments (Environment, Housing, Health, Education, etc) with those that have expressed sentiments to undermine those departments.
He has undermined military leadership, the FBI, the DOJ.
He has undermined our media, and labeled all opposition as fake.
He has ripped up international accords and agreements, such as the Paris Accord, TPP, UNESCO, the Iran deal, without putting anything in its place.
He has undermined America's alliances through threats to Nato, and insults to world leaders, whilst sucking up to despots.
He has sought to divide Americans by using race and grievances.
He has put the economy on a course similar to his failed businesses. The completely unnecessary shutdown, unsustainable tax cuts, and tariffs, all serve to damage America.
America was the world leader before he took office, but he has successfully alienated America from the rest of the world and left us as a weakened laughing stock.
These are not the results of an idiot who just happened to do everything wrong to damage us, but the result of a carefully planned program of destruction. Trump isn't smart enough to achieve this on his own. His puppet master is.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)The other prong has not been subjected to significant investigation despite high level staffers being connected to Manafort and Russian oligarchs.
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)The current POTUS plays for the other team....
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)Putin may not want Trump to talk. Yes it would mean that Trump may be a traitor or an idiot, but he is not the only head of a country Putin is trying to destabilize so Putin will make sure that Trump doesn't get to tell what he knows, if anything.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Those people don't leak. Unless this is strategic, and a warning? Not that I'm not excited to hear about it, but it's surprising that we're hearing anything about it.