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UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:24 PM Jan 2019

Marine vet held by ICE for possible deportation is U.S. citizen, lawyer says

Source: CBS News

A Marine veteran with post-traumatic stress disorder was held for three days for possible deportation before federal authorities learned the 27-year-old is a U.S. citizen born in Michigan, lawyers said Wednesday. Jilmar Ramos-Gomez was a lance corporal in the Marines and received awards for service in Afghanistan.

"He was decorated with a national defense service medal, a global war on terrorism service medal, an Afghanistan campaign medal, and a combat action ribbon, among other awards," the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan said Wednesday in a statement.

"Why did they think he was a non-citizen? Did they get him confused with someone else? Who knows," ACLU attorney Miriam Aukerman said. "This is an individual who's incredibly vulnerable with a mental illness."

... snip ...

"Once he was released from our custody, he was under the domain of ICE. Where they take him is their process," Kent County Undersheriff Chuck DeWitt said. "Our procedures were followed."

DeWitt said he didn't know whether Ramos-Gomez protested when immigration officers picked him up. He was driven 70 miles to a detention center in Battle Creek and released after three days, after lawyer Richard Kessler contacted ICE on behalf of the man's family.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/marine-vet-held-by-ice-for-possible-deportation-is-u-s-citizen/



Wrong in so many ways ...
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Marine vet held by ICE for possible deportation is U.S. citizen, lawyer says (Original Post) UpInArms Jan 2019 OP
Horrible. Horrible. Squinch Jan 2019 #1
Let me guess, Jilmar Ramos Gomez cannot possibly be a US Citizen tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #2
Yep...he has to be illegal with one of "those" kind of last names Bengus81 Jan 2019 #19
They would love to repeal the 14th amendment IronLionZion Jan 2019 #3
Sickening. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #4
A good example of how the Trump administration treats our Vets. Hope everyone in the military is FSogol Jan 2019 #5
Yeah? Well your procedures SUCK, CHUCK ... mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #6
Why...??? Grins Jan 2019 #7
I am so fed up with this nonsense! Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #8
Native Americans have been detained by ICE IronLionZion Jan 2019 #9
Living in NM MosheFeingold Jan 2019 #10
You forgot Texas cannabis_flower Jan 2019 #11
LOL, considering I live in Texas! Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #14
You might be interested in the "San Miguel Gate". grantcart Jan 2019 #15
what do they call next level PTSD? barbtries Jan 2019 #12
Time to reign in ICE from attempting to deport anyone with sinkingfeeling Jan 2019 #13
Why the hell did Kent County Sheriff Dept release him in to their custody? LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #16
That is an interesting question, but here is a better one. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #21
ICE spokesman Khaalid Walls seems like he is an illegal. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #17
Khaalid Walls dalton99a Jan 2019 #22
Rec for visibility. yardwork Jan 2019 #18
"...after lawyer Richard Kessler contacted ICE on behalf of the man's family..." SpankMe Jan 2019 #20

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
2. Let me guess, Jilmar Ramos Gomez cannot possibly be a US Citizen
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jan 2019

No, had his name been John Bob - better yet in these times, Vladimir, or Oleg, or some other Eastern European one has to wonder
Sigh, I can't with some of these people.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
19. Yep...he has to be illegal with one of "those" kind of last names
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jan 2019

He just had to be one of the murderer/rapists that Mexico sent us...............

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
3. They would love to repeal the 14th amendment
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jan 2019

and implement race based citizenship. Brown people can't be US citizens. White people can't be immigrants. Everyone knows this.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
5. A good example of how the Trump administration treats our Vets. Hope everyone in the military is
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jan 2019

paying attention.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Yeah? Well your procedures SUCK, CHUCK ...
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jan 2019

What are those exactly? Everyone w/Hispanic name that you arrest, you call ICE on? Is that the 'procedures'?

And you don't think to evaluate people for mental illness, and keep them away from ICE if they seem sick? Guess you just want any sick people off your bottom-line ASAP? I get it.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
8. I am so fed up with this nonsense!
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

The ignorance of history in this country just irritates the hell out of me. The US and Mexico signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago in 1848. Accordingnto the History Channel, “The treaty added an additional 525,000 square miles to United States territory, including the land that makes up all or parts of present-day Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming.”

Many of the people living in those present-day states were of Mexican or Spanish heritage. Their descendents have just as much right to be in this country as anyone with European ancestry. The descendents of Native Americans have even more right, yet I remember an incident from last year where a couple called campus police because they thought two Young Native American men on a college tour “did not belong there.”

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
9. Native Americans have been detained by ICE
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:00 PM
Jan 2019

and several American-born hispanics and other brown US citizens. Most Americans don't carry their passport or birth certificate around in their own country. Racism is the problem.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
10. Living in NM
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jan 2019

I hear regular stories about people from New Mexico having issues because idiots don't know New Mexico is a state.

For example the idiot court clerk in Washington DC who demanded a "New Mexico Passport".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2018/11/30/couple-was-refused-dc-marriage-license-when-clerk-asked-new-mexico-passport/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a4b1df45aa9e

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
11. You forgot Texas
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jan 2019
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo

It gave the United States the Rio Grande as a boundary for Texas, and gave the U.S. ownership of California and a large area comprising roughly half of New Mexico, most of Arizona, Nevada, and Utah, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado. Mexicans in those annexed areas had the choice of relocating to within Mexico's new boundaries or receiving American citizenship with full civil rights.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
14. LOL, considering I live in Texas!
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jan 2019

I have been so spitting nails angry at Trump and his supporters since the shutdown that I barely have a civil thought in my head. Thank goodness I don’t have a blood pressure problem!

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
12. what do they call next level PTSD?
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jan 2019

when an injustice is piled on top of a trauma? how much can one man take?

so wrong.

LiberalFighter

(50,906 posts)
16. Why the hell did Kent County Sheriff Dept release him in to their custody?
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:49 PM
Jan 2019

They are just as much at fault as ICE if not more.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
21. That is an interesting question, but here is a better one.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jan 2019

WHY did ICE detain him at all ? EVERY GODDAM LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE COUNTRY HAS ACCESS TO THE NATIONAL [/b]FINGERPRINTING database. Every single member of the armed forces has been fingerprinted upon entry. The minute his name was put into the system, that information would have popped up immediately.

This was naked racism.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
20. "...after lawyer Richard Kessler contacted ICE on behalf of the man's family..."
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jan 2019

What do we do about those who have no lawyers to speak on their behalf?

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