Nancy Pelosi Responds to Trump Saying He'll Wait Until After the Shutdown to Give State of the Union

[DonViejo]

Source: Mediaite



by Tamar Auber | Jan 24th, 2019, 12:29 am

Late Wednesday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi responded to President Donald Trump‘s pair of tweets announcing he planned to wait until after the shutdown to give his State of the Union address.

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In response, Pelosi wrote: “Mr. President, I hope by saying ‘near future’ you mean you will support the House-passed package to #EndTheShutdown that the Senate will vote on tomorrow. Please accept this proposal so we can re-open government, repay our federal workers and then negotiate our differences.”

Link to tweet

Trump has repeatedly said the shutdown could last a long time, most recently on earlier on Wednesday.

“They don’t want to see crime stopped, which we can easily do on the southern border,” Trump said, after learning Pelosi would not allow the State of the Union in the House chambers during ht shutdown.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/trump/nancy-pelosi-responds-to-trump-announcing-hell-wait-until-after-the-shutdown-to-give-state-of-the-union/

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Damn! She's good. World's Greatest Dealmaker shut down...

and never knew what hit him.

[scarytomcat]

2. Why haven't we easily stopped crime before now, Mr president?

I like to see a stop to the crime in the White House, Mr president.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

8. If Donnie considers spending $50 billion+ and five years building his wall "easy"

what does he consider hard?

Oh, that's right -- telling the truth.

[WePurrsevere]

3. Excellent reply! I just wish Dems pushed a bit harder the fact...

that they're absolutely for 'REALISTIC border security' and drastically reducing crime however research has shown the solution is NOT Trump's poorly thought out racist BS wall.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. "I just wish Dems pushed a bit harder the fact..."

They have done that - whether on TV (the few times media will actually show Democrats) or on social media and twitter (since twitter is now a "thing" for the media given the WH uses it for official communications).

[WePurrsevere]

5. Good! Apparently I just haven't seen it all. nt

[NurseJackie]

6. "I just wish that Dems pushed..." -- OH BROTHER!

I just wish Dems pushed a bit harder the fact...

GMAFB! Why pursue some sort of false narrative the the Democrats have been lazy or negligent in doing that? What good purpose does it serve to pretend that we haven't already been doing that? We have! Clearly. Vigorously. Loudly. Often.

[WePurrsevere]

10. As I said, apparently I missed all this.

And excuse me but I'm not repeating a 'false narrative' and I'm not saying Dems are lazy or negligent... I fully realise there's a lack of fair MSM coverage and has been for decades.

What I stated has been my experience based on not always being on Democrat oriented social media, news sites and not having cable. YMMV and obviously does... that's cool! All I know is that 'I', as a regular long time DUer and 'yellow dog' Democrat, haven't seen very much outside D circles and I know I'm not the only one. Telling someone that they're not experiencing what they feel they are doesn't make it not so nor does it contribute to a solution.

[NurseJackie]

11. I'll take that at face value, thanks for the explanation.

What I stated has been my experience based on not always being on Democrat oriented social media, news sites and not having cable.

That certainly explains a lot. Yet, you're here with many links to LBN, current videos, political editorials and cartoons. It's a clearing-house of information.

Telling someone that they're not experiencing what they feel they are doesn't make it not so nor does it contribute to a solution.

I'm trying to be sympathetic, but repeating a false narrative, even if unintentional, does not make it any less false. Nor does it make it any less damaging.

All I know is that 'I', as a regular long time DUer and 'yellow dog' Democrat, haven't seen very much outside D circles and I know I'm not the only one.

That's why it's even MORE important that your discussions include FACTS, not false perceptions.

Telling someone that they're not experiencing what they feel they are doesn't make it not so...

Feelings and facts are different things.

... nor does it contribute to a solution.

Actually, pointing out the difference between someone's feelings (false perceptions) and that which is true and real does INDEED help to contribute to a solution.

All I'm saying is, if nobody pointed out when someone was wrong, then the false narratives would continue to be spread (albeit unintentionally and without malice).

[WePurrsevere]

14. Either you're missing my point...

I'm not making myself clear enough or both. I'll try one last time and hope for the best.

A) My experience isn't based solely on what is posted here or on other D oriented sites.

B) While it's true that D politicians, etc are 'trying' very hard, and actually are doing a much better job lately, to get messages out, it's also true that too many, myself included, aren't hearing enough of what they're saying outside of places like DU or left publications.

Let me try this analogy to see if it helps get my point across. If the clergy preach and only a few in the choir hear it and most of the rest of the 'world' rarely does, than they need to figure out a way to get what they're saying out there better (and not just telling those that don't hear it that they're wrong in saying they didn't hear it).

[NurseJackie]

16. So, you're blaming our Democratic leaders for something that's not their fault. Got it!

If the clergy preach and only a few in the choir hear it and most of the rest of the 'world' rarely does, than they need to figure out a way to get what they're saying out there better (and not just telling those that don't hear it that they're wrong in saying they didn't hear it).

I guess the choir needs to help out, rather than blaming the preacher because his voice doesn't carry through solid walls and glass.

I'll try one last time and hope for the best.

I'm afraid it only made things worse. But it does help me to understand how emotionally bonded people can be to ideas, even wrongheaded ones.

All I'm trying to say is that it serves no good purpose to blame Democrats, or to reinforce the negative narrative the Democrats are "do-nothings"; or that Democrats are "lazy"; or that Democrats are "incompetent. None of those things are true. Those are the talking-points of the RW and of other anti-party groups like "Justice Democrats"... so I hope you can understand my hostility to unnecessary negativity and defeatism regarding our hard-working DEMOCRATS!

God Bless America! God Bless Democrats!

[WePurrsevere]

18. Not only ignoring my point...

But twisting what I said and attempting to make me look bad and feel guilty for sharing my experience just because it didn't meet with your approval. Oh well, that's on you, not me. I'm a staunch Democrat who's been a supporter and activist since I could first vote in the 70s. You don't have to like or agree with what I say but I have just as much right to my opinions and to call attention to issues and offer constructive criticism as you or any other Democrat.

I'm done bothering with you. Good night.

[NurseJackie]

19. I feel the same way.

Not only ignoring my point...

I feel the same way. My point is being missed entirely and is being taken a a personal attack when that's not the case.

I'm done bothering with you.

Okay. See you later.

[haele]

17. I just wish reporters and the media would ask the pResident and head of DHS why they only spent 6%..

...of the Billions in the already allocated 2018 Border Security and Border Improvement budget, and now they're crying for more money.

Why didn't they assign and spend the money this entire past year? They had the programs and the proposals in place, they just didn't fund them; instead, they cheaped out and spent their funding playing Pre-WWII Nazi camp guard, separating families just to have some cruel fun and pump up some hedge and stock funds for the "leadership", instead of doing real f'n border security work in a more optimal manner.

Now, unless that money is POM'ed for two years, they have to give the money back.

Could it be they don't care about Border Security, but just want a "cause" to nail the Democrats on and shuffle funding off to corporate and foreign backers?

Haele

[Maeve]

7. My faith in Ms Pelosi has been vindicated

And I don't think he wrote that tweet in the least....

[watoos]

9. She is good not just because she is good,

She is good because she has the ability to change the right wing narrative. She quickly went from what was a Trump positive, his civil Tweet, to calling him out on acting on it.

People make a big mistake by underestimating the power of the right wing corporate controlled M$M narrative.

Let's not dwell too long on OAC's take on the minimum wage v a living wage because OAC also has the ability to change the right wing narrative. How many GOP/Trump Congressional knuckle draggers can explain the difference? Let's not pick on AOC.

[Stuart G]

12. I noticed in Nancy's letter a word that Mr. Trump is not familiar with...."Please"..

full sentence from Pelosi's letter:......................................

" Please accept this proposal so we can re-open government, repay our federal workers and then negotiate our differences."

[2naSalit]

13. That's why she's

what we need. In the face of the ugliest ogre, she can be civil and polite yet kick their ass into next Wednesday. She is the master of killing with kindness. She also never raises her voice, notice that?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is THE role model for political success in this country, I hope people take note.

We have a chance with her in that powerful position and need to support what she does if we want America to remain free, or at least freer than most other places. We need to back her even if we can't see exactly what she's up to... but I argue that she has always been pretty transparent about what she's doing.

She has:

Poise
Grace
Intellect
Institutional mastery
Class

None of these are mutually exclusive nor is this a complete list of favorable traits and they are all of equal value.

There are no traits of any kind even closely related to be found in the current resident of the WH.

[Shoonra]

15. NO deal is necessary

The US Constitution only requires the President to inform Congress of the State of the Union "from time to time". (Article II, sec. 3)

No law requires that the State of the Union report be given on January 29th, nor anytime in January or any specific month. It's not even required to be annual.

So Trump is under no requirement to deliver it during January nor in February. It can wait until the shutdown is resolved.

And, by the way, until well into the 20th century, the State of the Union was usually reported in a written message from the President, not a live speech.

If Trump isn't allowed to speak in the House of Representatives chamber, this cannot stop him from issuing a State of the Union message in writing.

So, really, Trump is under no requirement to wrest concessions - to negotiate or compromise for a particular date at a particular lectern - in order to fulfill his duties regarding the State of the Union message.