Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill



BY BRETT SAMUELS - 01/28/19 08:58 AM EST

President Trump on Monday embraced a proposal from lawmakers in six states that would allow public schools to offer Bible literacy classes shortly after the subject was discussed on "Fox & Friends."

Link to tweet

The tweet came roughly a half hour after North Dakota state Rep. Aaron McWilliams appeared on "Fox & Friends." McWilliams is co-sponsoring a measure in North Dakota to support Bible literacy classes.

Similar measures have been introduced in Missouri, Indiana, West Virginia, Virginia and Florida.

USA Today reported that the proposals would require or encourage public schools to offer elective classes on the Bible, with a focus on its historical significance.



Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427217-trump-touts-proposed-bible-literacy-classes-in-state-schools

[trusty elf]

1. Two Corinthians walk into a bar....

[cstanleytech]

15. He also has a great relationship with Exodus 20:14 or at least the violating of it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

60. Bartender says, "Those are some fine leather jackets."

[Soxfan58]

2. trump

Needs a constitution study class.

[Larrybanal]

12. talk about pandering

trump didn't even know where the religion he was raised in fit into the "christian world" he knows nothing except how to lie

[Roy Rolling]

3. A rift among Christians?

"I don't want no heathens teaching my kids. We was born snake-handlers, we will die as snake-handling Christians."

---Snake Handling church member.

[Lonestarblue]

7. I hooe those are rattlesnakes they're handling!

[jmowreader]

49. They really are

There are some videos of Signs Following church services on YouTube. They tend to use timber rattlers that are three to four feet long - big enough to kill anyone that pisses them off.

Strange thing is, if someone gets bit they just start praying real hard and don’t administer first aid They don’t call EMS for the obvious reason: all states where known Signs Following congregations are, except West Virginia and Georgia, have banned snake handling. If the fire department were called in, they’d lose all their snakes at the very minimum. And quite a few videos talk about how someone they loved died of snakebite, but they just keep right on going.

[keithbvadu2]

75. traveling preacher goes around to back country churches making supper and a little money. they invit

traveling preacher goes around to back country churches making supper and a little money.
they invite him to stay for supper.
then they invite him for further services.
what services? he asks.
they bring out the snakes.

he asks where the back door is.

don't have one.

reckon where they want one?

[Moostache]

4. I am going to contact the ACLU to lend my name to a lawsuit against this in East Kansas...

unless ALL religions and their significance, INCLUDING non-belief or simple deism of the founders is included and given equal time and weight.

Enough is enough. This is NOT a "Christian" nation, it is a secular representative republic, period.

[notdarkyet]

13. And our schools aren't churches. There are probably more churches than schools now where

Kids can learn about god.

[DetlefK]

5. It's weird how well the description of the Anti-Christ fits to Trump:

A false prophet of Christianity, pretending to be the new way.

Corrupting people with honeyed speeches to lead them astray.

A corruptor, liar and deceiver.



And there's the thing about the Anti-Christ's horns and Trump's hair.

[Basement Beat]

56. Uncanny.

[empedocles]

6. Need a plug for the 'evangelicals' said the RNC

[Harker]

8. He thinks Deuteronomy is a surgical procedure.

Even as a non-Christian, I find his feigned interest in religion disgusting.

[flibbitygiblets]

43. Ironically, while some of us are disgusted at the hypocrisy, Xtians fall for it every time.

"See!? He's one of us, he wants the bible in schools, yay!".

Never mind that virtually every thing he says and does would have made Christ himself shake his head in disbelief.

As long as there's the promise of unrestricted access to guns, and women can't control their own bodies, the Christians can be counted on to fall in line.

[Harker]

58. Right. I think he truly fools only those who want to be fooled.

The rest just rationalize the inconveniences away. I'd be interested to hear Christian Trumpskyites compare and contrast his merits and values with those of Jimmy Carter, among others.

[vlyons]

9. Will never happen

But it if did -- I recommend Beshazzar's Feast in the book of Daniel. "mene mene tekel upharsin" - You have been weighed and measure and found lacking

[Blue_Tires]

10. Trump as always just needs a distraction

So he again proposes something crazy that everybody (including him) will have forgotten by next week... Rinse and repeat

[oberliner]

52. It's just something he saw on Fox & Friends

[JohnnyRingo]

11. Cultivating a future republican base.

Have a little faith in creation and tax cuts.

[onetexan]

14. LOL this is quite comical. The Idiot-in-Chief is still pandering to his base of imbeciles

[oberliner]

53. He is just live tweeting Fox & Friends

Link to tweet

[dhill926]

16. I doubt if he's ever even held a bible...

in his tiny orange hands. Pandering fuckstick...

[yaesu]

24. tRumps ex wife claims he kept a book of hitlers speeches at his bedside

that was his bible no doubt.

[eggplant]

17. As long as the Church of Satan gets equal time, I say go for it. n/t

[avebury]

33. And Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Native American, Shinto,

Confucianism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and so on.

[TygrBright]

50. Don't forget Pastafarianism! RAMEN!! n/t

[yonder]

78. And "The Church Of Those Who Sleep In On Sunday's"

Ramen, brothers and sisters

[eggplant]

81. Church of Satan will be enough to nip this in the bud.

[AllyCat]

18. So this means I can come teach school during their church time

[B Stieg]

23. Sure. Drop-in lectures on evolution!

Seems only fair.

[BlueIdaho]

19. Pandering fool. nt.

[justgamma]

20. Right he's so pure

someone should teach him the 6th, 7th, and 8th commandment. Also maybe he should learn the 7 deadly sins. Then get back to us, because I'm pretty sure he would think the Bible is all about trashing him. lol

[kag]

41. Fake commandments!

"We're going to have so much sinning! You're gonna be tired of all the sinning!"

[jmowreader]

96. No one ever gets tired of sinning, as long as they're the one doing it

Watching Trump sin is a whole 'nother kettle 'a' fish.

[SeattleVet]

74. He knows the Seven Deadly Sins all too well...

he appears to have mastered the information in the (fake) 'pamphlet' that Jean Shepherd used to (jokingly) tout on his WOR radio show in the 60's and 70's:

"The Seven Deadly Sins, and How to Get the Most Out of Them"

[Honeycombe8]

21. Trump has to take them first, since he couldn't cite a single Bible quote, when asked.

Also, this would be unconstitutional. So this is just a play to lock down his evangelical cult base.

[oberliner]

54. He is just repeating a story that is running on Fox and Friends

[TheBlackAdder]

22. Trump has only read the raping and destruction passages in the Bible. But, only The Living Bible.

.

He needs pictures.

.

[SweetieD]

25. Turn back? I went to public school and we never studied the bible.

[Shrike47]

32. We did, to some extent. My voracious reading habits got me the vocabulary that wowed my SATs.

[Ohiogal]

37. I went to public school, too

In first grade in the early 60s our teacher read out of the Bible to our class every morning. I don’t know how she got away with it. We had three Jewish kids in that class too.

[snort]

26. Christ he's a fucking idiot.

[rockfordfile]

93. I agree

[saidsimplesimon]

27. How low will the Con go?

He really has erased the dignity of our Oval Office. The fool on the hill.

[tenderfoot]

28. I liked this response...

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

63. +1

[treestar]

87. lol

for a while there was a DUer with that name who posted things like that.

[njhoneybadger]

29. For fuck's sake

Just what his base of phony Christains want. Cryfous the Great, king of America speaks

[Shrike47]

31. Teaching the Bible as literature would be a good idea, IMO, but they would never stop there.

European literature, in which I include English literature for this statement, is replete with Bible references. Understanding them, like understanding something about Greek mythology, is very helpful to one who reads literary classics. However, they would never refrain from preaching.

[zipplewrath]

36. I took that course

My high school offered "Bible as Literature" and that's exactly what it was. You'd read some of the bibile, and then read other works that involved allusions or references to them.

[Rizen]

69. Seporation of church and state.

Stop trying to force religion on us.

[lilactime]

77. Not in public school it wouldn't.

[treestar]

86. +1

You need that to understand English Literature.

[Girard442]

34. I'm all for Biblical literacy classes...

...if Bill Maher teaches them.

[area51]

35. Ironic given he's the first one to need a bible literacy course.

[njhoneybadger]

39. Ain't that the truth

Did you hear the one about 2 Corinthians who walked into a bar

[usaf-vet]

38. This coming from a man who needs pictures in the national daily briefing he is suppose to receive.

tRump by all reasonable measurement is illiterate. He's so far away from being the smartest, the biggest brain, the best words, the _______ fill in the blank, delusional fool..... that he is laughable. Laughable for most of the world's leaders.

This bible literacy meme is him desperately trying to please his delusional base.

[Snellius]

40. Only book in the Bible he knows is "Two" Corinthians. nt

[defacto7]

42. Ooo, Ooo, I'll teach that...

[a la izquierda]

44. Hmm teaching its historical significance?

So would that include using the Bible to justify slavery, torture, and also the subjugation of women throughout history?
What else am I missing?

[LakeSuperiorView]

45. Like Dipshit has the first fucking clue about Literacy...

[Texin]

46. What does this fuck know about 'biblical literacy' -- or about literacy at all?

Puhleeze!

[Maxheader]

47. Good idea stumpy...except you left out the parrell course of creation by evolution..

Offer both...let the student decide...

[rocktivity]

48. The historical significance of the holy bible SHOULD be taught

in history class.


rocktivity

[Rizen]

72. Watch Christians lose their s*** when the Quran's taught

[TexasBushwhacker]

88. Yup. I have no problem with a comparative religion class

being offered as an elective. While I'm not religious and never have been, I can't deny the influence of religion on the history of our planet. That being said, the biggest Bible thumpers I know only know as much of the Bible as their particular preachers share with them. If young people in public schools studied the Bible cover to cover, it probably wouldn't have the outcome the fundies hope for.

[oberliner]

51. In case you're wondering about the president's sudden interest in the Bible.

Link to tweet

[pwb]

55. Doubt they will get to the New Testament.

Not much Jesus in this Fake religious right crowd.

[stopbush]

57. Why not just include Buybull studies in an existing course in fiction?

[elleng]

59. Nothing wrong with literacy; get your OWN first, jerk.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

61. No shit

Drumpf's one of the least Christian people around.

[elleng]

62. and least LITERATE!

[dalton99a]

64. Says the eminent Bible scholar and paragon of Christian virtue

[MyOwnPeace]

66. Bet those

2 Corinthians could put up a good argument against that!

[pepperbear]

65. Believe it or not, this is no big deal

I graduated HS in VA in 1981. The English department offered a class called "The Bible as Literature" It was exactlly what it sounds like. There was no proselytizing. We also already took care of school prayer with a moment of silence. This was as early as 1976.

[IcyPeas]

67. Aaaaaand he gets another headline. /nt

[Rizen]

68. Fox and Friends is Trump's bible

What unconstitutional nonsense.

[lunamagica]

70. They could start by teachig this

Matthew 25:35-40 English Standard Version (ESV)

35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’

[Cold War Spook]

85. I am not a Christian,

but that is one part of the Bible I try to live by.

[lunamagica]

89. I suspect this is not the part of the Bible they want to teach

[Cold War Spook]

94. I am sure you are right.

I am not very knowledgeable about most religions and other spiritual ways of living, but I have never found a better way to live.

[Politicub]

71. Bible literacy classes. Ridiculous.

Guess this is his attempt at buying off his base who wants gawd back in schools.

If this isn't a violation of church and state, then why bother even trying?

[Rizen]

73. Exactly.

But if someone suggested teaching the Quran they'd freak out.

[keithbvadu2]

76. Amazing how many folks want gov't to teach religion to our children rather than leave it to parental

Amazing how many folks want gov't to teach religion to our children rather than leave it to parental choice.

[niyad]

79. turn back to WHAT, you waste of resource????

I am having trouble thinking of the tangerine tyrant touting ANY kind of literacy, let alone biblical.



that is what private religious "schools" are for,yes????

[Fresh_Start]

80. Yes, you too can become as literate as Donald Trump on the Bible

Thinking that is a pretty low goal but that seems to be all the Trump supporters look for.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

82. You have to give the guy credit for knowing how to play Christians/Republicans

[oberliner]

84. He is just tweeting something he saw on Fox & Friends

[Takket]

83. I will support his plan on one condition...

Drumpf takes and passes the test himself

He doesn’t have a chance lol

[Archae]

90. The North Dakota bill failed.

***Update***: The North Dakota bill at the center of this controversy died in the State Senate after a 42-5 vote against it.
…
Earlier today, North Dakota State Rep. Aaron McWilliams appeared on Fox & Friends to talk about his bill that would force public schools to offer Bible classes. His legislation, as we’ve discussed before, doesn’t distinguish between teaching the Bible as literature (which could be okay) and teaching it as fact (which would be illegal). His bill doesn’t lay out what needed to be taught, only that schools needed to teach it, and that it could replace a one-semester U.S. Government or economics class as a requirement for graduation.
The bill would almost certainly be challenged in court the moment it passed. So of course he was defended it on FOX News.

[Bob Loblaw]

91. Can't these people just go to church?

[world wide wally]

92. Have you ever noticed that the 10 Commandments are all about the things you CANT do,

and all the Amendments are about the rights you DO have?
No wonder they don't gel as a course in school.

[jls4561]

95. How about teaching civics instead?

[Progressive Jones]

97. Just like drug dealers. They'll do anything to get customers. nt