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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:23 AM Mar 2019

Arizona House Okays Lower Minimum Wage For some Younger Employees

Source: Tucson.com

PHOENIX — Claiming voters intended higher minimum wages only for families, Republicans in the state House voted Wednesday to allow employers to pay less to some people younger than 22.

On paper, House Bill 2523, given preliminary approval on a party-line vote, does not amend what voters approved in the 2016 election by a 2-1 margin. That initiative took the minimum wage from $8.05 an hour to $11 now, and going to $12 next year.

Instead, the proposal by Rep. Travis Grantham, R-Gilbert, would create a new category of “youth employment” in state labor laws. That would include anyone younger than 22 who also is a full-time student but works no more than 20 hours a week.

Employers would be required to pay them only what is required by federal law, which is $7.25 an hour.

Read more: https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-house-oks-lower-minimum-wage-for-some-younger-employees/article_41fb061c-ffb8-5c81-862c-047277a174de.html



This is insane. Lowering the minimum age for 16-22 year olds. People are not going to stand for this.
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Arizona House Okays Lower Minimum Wage For some Younger Employees (Original Post) vsrazdem Mar 2019 OP
The Phoenix is no longer rising from the ashes...it's buried by the GOPutin. C Moon Mar 2019 #1
I call B.S. LittleGirl Mar 2019 #2
Let's make it harder for people to get out of poverty! -GOP sakabatou Mar 2019 #3
The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor - Voltaire FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #30
ASU and UofA students are going to flip right the hell OUT, and rightly so ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #4
Yep, used to live in Tucson LittleGirl Mar 2019 #14
The GOP war on workers continues. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #5
Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #15
Well, Spring Break is coming up, I hope they get their butts to the Capital and march. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #6
What an incredibly stupid idea. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #7
Hadn't even thought of that consequence. JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #12
Let's make it so students can't work their way through school. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2019 #8
When people tell you who they are, believe them. nt TeamPooka Mar 2019 #9
This is what Republicans are doing instead of working for the people of this country. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #10
Never too young to learn about corporate exploitation. JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Mar 2019 #13
Growing up in Nebraska in the 70s, moreland01 Mar 2019 #16
I was a single mother and homeowner before I was 22. Guess I sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #17
IKR? Coventina Mar 2019 #23
Make America Backwards Again. Lonestarblue Mar 2019 #18
Sounds like discrimination. Wonder if there will be a lawsuit filed over it? cstanleytech Mar 2019 #19
An affected employee over the age of 18 needs to file a lawsuit. eom. Coventina Mar 2019 #20
Error-Zona puke state reps vying not fooled Mar 2019 #21
You're wrong atreides1 Mar 2019 #22
My husband's repuke niece who is 19 is not going to be happy about this! kimbutgar Mar 2019 #24
Arizona GOP and the Fast Food Fuckery Fiat-coming to your neighborhood soon! N/T flotsam Mar 2019 #25
Sure...the cable company and utilites have cheaper rates for bill payers who are single and young Bengus81 Mar 2019 #26
Even an $11 or $12 per Hour Wage is Insufficient to Live On dlk Mar 2019 #27
One can only hope that more 18 to 22 year olds in Arizona get out and vote Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #28
I'm sure that their job duties will be less strenuous. Delmette2.0 Mar 2019 #29
Young Adults should do this in Arizona Wolf Frankula Mar 2019 #31
So they are getting paid less for doing the same job just because of their age? Outrageous. Luciferous Mar 2019 #32
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. ASU and UofA students are going to flip right the hell OUT, and rightly so ...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:49 AM
Mar 2019

This is a direct attack on College Students ...

Whaddya know ... GILBERT. I know it well, it's about 200 yards away from my front door, and I lived there for quite some time not long ago.

100% certain that Travis there ... is LDS.

Tell you what TRAVIS, why don't you show us where it says FAMILIES ... in the f***ing BILL we just voted for? How about that?

BTW, what if they work at Uber for 11 hours a week, and wait table 11 hours a week? Is each employer supposed to contact the other, and get the 'hours' the employee worked every work, or, how does that work?

LittleGirl

(8,292 posts)
14. Yep, used to live in Tucson
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:12 AM
Mar 2019

left in June last year and still registered to vote in Pima county.

This bill is outrageous!

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
6. Well, Spring Break is coming up, I hope they get their butts to the Capital and march.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:54 AM
Mar 2019

I'm sure there are lots of mom's that would go to. My daughter is really ticked about this. My granddaughter is graduating this year and will be going to college and working part time. Granddaughter is fuming right now.

Mr.Bill

(24,354 posts)
7. What an incredibly stupid idea.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:58 AM
Mar 2019

Welcome to getting fired on your 22nd birthday so a cheaper employee can take your job.

JohnnyRingo

(18,673 posts)
12. Hadn't even thought of that consequence.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:17 AM
Mar 2019

Even though getting fired from most McJobs is a favor, it just plays into the hands of Corporate America.

I'm sure Republicans trust companies will do the right thing.

8. Let's make it so students can't work their way through school.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:59 AM
Mar 2019

That's the GOP way. The only people who will leave college debt-free are those fortunate few who chose rich parents.

This sounds like Michigan, where the voters overwhelmingly overturned an unpopular law passed by the Republican government, only to have the legislature reinstate the offending legislation with the provision that, "This law shall not be challenged by citizen-initiated proposition."

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
10. This is what Republicans are doing instead of working for the people of this country.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:43 AM
Mar 2019


Rep. Travis Grantham,
Dirtbag in the foreground,
playing with his lips.

Enough to make a maggot gag.

JohnnyRingo

(18,673 posts)
11. Never too young to learn about corporate exploitation.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:15 AM
Mar 2019

A valuable lesson they will be reminded of the rest of their lives.

Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

moreland01

(744 posts)
16. Growing up in Nebraska in the 70s,
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:34 AM
Mar 2019

If you were under 16, they didn't have to pay you the minimum wage. You were also limited in the number of hours you could work. I worked in a donut shop and it was hard work! The day I turned 16 I quit and went to work at a dry cleaners where I could study when the shop was empty.

So I get the logic of it, but under 18 makes way more sense than under 22. After high school, most kids are either in college or working as much as they can and have way more needs. They start perhaps paying rent and other bills if they're not living at home.

Arizona needs to rethink this.

Lonestarblue

(10,138 posts)
18. Make America Backwards Again.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:39 AM
Mar 2019

Policies like this remind me far too much of my first job after college. Men were paid higher salaries for the same exact job because they were assumed to be providing for a wife and family, though even single men received higher wages than women. Working women were assumed not to need as much money. Thankfully, the women’s rights movement came along, and such nonsense eventually stopped or at least improved (though corporate pay in some cases still favors men)—until now when Republicans are once again trying to base pay on who you are and not the job you’re doing.

Imagine what we could accomplish as a country if we helped ALL people get ahead and stopped fighting to punish people for being poor, a minority, of a non-Christian religion or no religion at all, or a different gender or sexual orientation. We spend our public time arguing over things that help elect politicians but do nothing to advance the success of the country. Sigh.

not fooled

(5,803 posts)
21. Error-Zona puke state reps vying
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:49 AM
Mar 2019

to see who can introduce the most backwards, batshit crazee bills.

[link:https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a26539464/vaccines-arizona-legislature-anti-vax-public-health/|]


Smells like the machinations of the AZ Mormon Mafia, which apparently runs the state. If you're not a wealthy business owner, sucks to be you!!!



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atreides1

(16,103 posts)
22. You're wrong
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:02 AM
Mar 2019

The vast majority, with the exception of Tucson will not only stand for it, they will cheer if it becomes law!

Arizona, where conservative whites have been pissing down peoples backs for years and convincing then that it was yellow rain, and it was good for them!!

Don't get me wrong, there are some pockets of liberalism in the state, but not many!!!


kimbutgar

(21,240 posts)
24. My husband's repuke niece who is 19 is not going to be happy about this!
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:30 AM
Mar 2019

Those repuke legislators who voted for this will feel the wrath of those under 22 next election season.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
26. Sure...the cable company and utilites have cheaper rates for bill payers who are single and young
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:08 PM
Mar 2019

As well as down at the gas pump--which BTW has increased about 40 cents per gallon over the last couple of months where I live.

More NEO CON "take us back to the 20's" bullshit.

dlk

(11,597 posts)
27. Even an $11 or $12 per Hour Wage is Insufficient to Live On
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:18 PM
Mar 2019

Have these legislators ever tried to pay for rent, utilities and food on that wage? Republicans really must hate the middle class. They work so hard to decimate it.

Freethinker65

(10,090 posts)
28. One can only hope that more 18 to 22 year olds in Arizona get out and vote
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:20 PM
Mar 2019

And that their vote means something. Overriding the will of the voters is so Republican.

If Republicans cared about voters actual intentions instead of making shit up, they could propose a change and let voters decide. There might actually be some validity in allowing those under the adult age of 18 to be paid the Federal minimum wage during a probationary period or a first job situation.

Delmette2.0

(4,176 posts)
29. I'm sure that their job duties will be less strenuous.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:33 PM
Mar 2019

Their working hours will be workable with their school schedule and other responsibilities.

I remember when my son got his first job at a fast food restaurant. He was 6'1", 190 pounds, 16 years old and had to work to pay for his share of auto insurance. He pointed out to me that he could drive a 2,000 pound vehicle but couldn't work on the grill with a knife ( for higher pay) because of his age.

The same logic will apply for the adults that at age 18, can vote, be legally held responsible for their actions, but can't earn the legal wage.

Equal wage for equal work for all ages.

Wolf Frankula

(3,604 posts)
31. Young Adults should do this in Arizona
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:43 PM
Mar 2019

Get yourselves registered to vote. Go the polls next year and VOTE! Vote against anybody who wants to take away your rights, any of your rights. Somebody who wants to take your rights is your Enemy, not your friend. Do they want you to earn less for your job? Do what you can to see they lose theirs.

If you don't, your right to vote may be next to go.

Wolf

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