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Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:23 AM

Arizona House Okays Lower Minimum Wage For some Younger Employees

Source: Tucson.com

PHOENIX — Claiming voters intended higher minimum wages only for families, Republicans in the state House voted Wednesday to allow employers to pay less to some people younger than 22.

On paper, House Bill 2523, given preliminary approval on a party-line vote, does not amend what voters approved in the 2016 election by a 2-1 margin. That initiative took the minimum wage from $8.05 an hour to $11 now, and going to $12 next year.

Instead, the proposal by Rep. Travis Grantham, R-Gilbert, would create a new category of “youth employment” in state labor laws. That would include anyone younger than 22 who also is a full-time student but works no more than 20 hours a week.

Employers would be required to pay them only what is required by federal law, which is $7.25 an hour.

Read more: https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-house-oks-lower-minimum-wage-for-some-younger-employees/article_41fb061c-ffb8-5c81-862c-047277a174de.html



This is insane. Lowering the minimum age for 16-22 year olds. People are not going to stand for this.

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Reply Arizona House Okays Lower Minimum Wage For some Younger Employees (Original post)
vsrazdem Mar 2019 OP
C Moon Mar 2019 #1
LittleGirl Mar 2019 #2
sakabatou Mar 2019 #3
FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #30
mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #4
LittleGirl Mar 2019 #14
SunSeeker Mar 2019 #5
Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #15
vsrazdem Mar 2019 #6
Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #7
JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #12
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2019 #8
TeamPooka Mar 2019 #9
Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #10
JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #11
appalachiablue Mar 2019 #13
moreland01 Mar 2019 #16
sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #17
Coventina Mar 2019 #23
Lonestarblue Mar 2019 #18
cstanleytech Mar 2019 #19
Coventina Mar 2019 #20
not fooled Mar 2019 #21
atreides1 Mar 2019 #22
kimbutgar Mar 2019 #24
flotsam Mar 2019 #25
Bengus81 Mar 2019 #26
dlk Mar 2019 #27
Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #28
Delmette2.0 Mar 2019 #29
Wolf Frankula Mar 2019 #31
Luciferous Mar 2019 #32

Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:37 AM

1. The Phoenix is no longer rising from the ashes...it's buried by the GOPutin.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:41 AM

2. I call B.S.

This is just plain stupidity.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:46 AM

3. Let's make it harder for people to get out of poverty! -GOP

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:56 PM

30. The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor - Voltaire

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:49 AM

4. ASU and UofA students are going to flip right the hell OUT, and rightly so ...

This is a direct attack on College Students ...

Whaddya know ... GILBERT. I know it well, it's about 200 yards away from my front door, and I lived there for quite some time not long ago.

100% certain that Travis there ... is LDS.

Tell you what TRAVIS, why don't you show us where it says FAMILIES ... in the f***ing BILL we just voted for? How about that?

BTW, what if they work at Uber for 11 hours a week, and wait table 11 hours a week? Is each employer supposed to contact the other, and get the 'hours' the employee worked every work, or, how does that work?

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:12 AM

14. Yep, used to live in Tucson

left in June last year and still registered to vote in Pima county.

This bill is outrageous!

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:50 AM

5. The GOP war on workers continues.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:28 AM

15. Precisely

Well Said.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:54 AM

6. Well, Spring Break is coming up, I hope they get their butts to the Capital and march.

I'm sure there are lots of mom's that would go to. My daughter is really ticked about this. My granddaughter is graduating this year and will be going to college and working part time. Granddaughter is fuming right now.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:58 AM

7. What an incredibly stupid idea.

Welcome to getting fired on your 22nd birthday so a cheaper employee can take your job.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:17 AM

12. Hadn't even thought of that consequence.

Even though getting fired from most McJobs is a favor, it just plays into the hands of Corporate America.

I'm sure Republicans trust companies will do the right thing.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:59 AM

8. Let's make it so students can't work their way through school.

That's the GOP way. The only people who will leave college debt-free are those fortunate few who chose rich parents.

This sounds like Michigan, where the voters overwhelmingly overturned an unpopular law passed by the Republican government, only to have the legislature reinstate the offending legislation with the provision that, "This law shall not be challenged by citizen-initiated proposition."

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:04 AM

9. When people tell you who they are, believe them. nt

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:43 AM

10. This is what Republicans are doing instead of working for the people of this country.



Rep. Travis Grantham,
Dirtbag in the foreground,
playing with his lips.

Enough to make a maggot gag.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:15 AM

11. Never too young to learn about corporate exploitation.

A valuable lesson they will be reminded of the rest of their lives.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:34 AM

16. Growing up in Nebraska in the 70s,

If you were under 16, they didn't have to pay you the minimum wage. You were also limited in the number of hours you could work. I worked in a donut shop and it was hard work! The day I turned 16 I quit and went to work at a dry cleaners where I could study when the shop was empty.

So I get the logic of it, but under 18 makes way more sense than under 22. After high school, most kids are either in college or working as much as they can and have way more needs. They start perhaps paying rent and other bills if they're not living at home.

Arizona needs to rethink this.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:49 AM

17. I was a single mother and homeowner before I was 22. Guess I

wouldn't have been a family in AZ.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:21 AM

23. IKR?

The idiocy of the "family values" camp strikes again!!

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:39 AM

18. Make America Backwards Again.

Policies like this remind me far too much of my first job after college. Men were paid higher salaries for the same exact job because they were assumed to be providing for a wife and family, though even single men received higher wages than women. Working women were assumed not to need as much money. Thankfully, the women’s rights movement came along, and such nonsense eventually stopped or at least improved (though corporate pay in some cases still favors men)—until now when Republicans are once again trying to base pay on who you are and not the job you’re doing.

Imagine what we could accomplish as a country if we helped ALL people get ahead and stopped fighting to punish people for being poor, a minority, of a non-Christian religion or no religion at all, or a different gender or sexual orientation. We spend our public time arguing over things that help elect politicians but do nothing to advance the success of the country. Sigh.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:50 AM

19. Sounds like discrimination. Wonder if there will be a lawsuit filed over it?

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

20. An affected employee over the age of 18 needs to file a lawsuit. eom.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:49 AM

21. Error-Zona puke state reps vying

to see who can introduce the most backwards, batshit crazee bills.

[link:https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a26539464/vaccines-arizona-legislature-anti-vax-public-health/|]


Smells like the machinations of the AZ Mormon Mafia, which apparently runs the state. If you're not a wealthy business owner, sucks to be you!!!



[link:|]

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:02 AM

22. You're wrong

The vast majority, with the exception of Tucson will not only stand for it, they will cheer if it becomes law!

Arizona, where conservative whites have been pissing down peoples backs for years and convincing then that it was yellow rain, and it was good for them!!

Don't get me wrong, there are some pockets of liberalism in the state, but not many!!!


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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:30 AM

24. My husband's repuke niece who is 19 is not going to be happy about this!

Those repuke legislators who voted for this will feel the wrath of those under 22 next election season.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:06 PM

25. Arizona GOP and the Fast Food Fuckery Fiat-coming to your neighborhood soon! N/T

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:08 PM

26. Sure...the cable company and utilites have cheaper rates for bill payers who are single and young

As well as down at the gas pump--which BTW has increased about 40 cents per gallon over the last couple of months where I live.

More NEO CON "take us back to the 20's" bullshit.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:18 PM

27. Even an $11 or $12 per Hour Wage is Insufficient to Live On

Have these legislators ever tried to pay for rent, utilities and food on that wage? Republicans really must hate the middle class. They work so hard to decimate it.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:20 PM

28. One can only hope that more 18 to 22 year olds in Arizona get out and vote

And that their vote means something. Overriding the will of the voters is so Republican.

If Republicans cared about voters actual intentions instead of making shit up, they could propose a change and let voters decide. There might actually be some validity in allowing those under the adult age of 18 to be paid the Federal minimum wage during a probationary period or a first job situation.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:33 PM

29. I'm sure that their job duties will be less strenuous.

Their working hours will be workable with their school schedule and other responsibilities.

I remember when my son got his first job at a fast food restaurant. He was 6'1", 190 pounds, 16 years old and had to work to pay for his share of auto insurance. He pointed out to me that he could drive a 2,000 pound vehicle but couldn't work on the grill with a knife ( for higher pay) because of his age.

The same logic will apply for the adults that at age 18, can vote, be legally held responsible for their actions, but can't earn the legal wage.

Equal wage for equal work for all ages.

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:43 PM

31. Young Adults should do this in Arizona

Get yourselves registered to vote. Go the polls next year and VOTE! Vote against anybody who wants to take away your rights, any of your rights. Somebody who wants to take your rights is your Enemy, not your friend. Do they want you to earn less for your job? Do what you can to see they lose theirs.

If you don't, your right to vote may be next to go.

Wolf

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Response to vsrazdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:08 PM

32. So they are getting paid less for doing the same job just because of their age? Outrageous.

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