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Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:57 PM

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Source: NY Daily News

Barbra Streisand is under fire for comments she made about two men accusing Michael Jackson of sexually assaulting them as children.

The legendary singer and actress said that Wade Robson and James Safechuck — whose allegations against the late King of Pop resurfaced in the recent documentary “Leaving Neverland" — “were thrilled to be there” and that what allegedly happened to them “didn’t kill them"

Streisand, 76, made the strange comments to British newspaper The Times in a piece out Friday, in which she also said that Jackson’s “sexual needs were his sexual needs.”

She says she “absolutely” believes the allegations of abuse by Robson and Safechuck, but puts more blame on their parents than The Gloved One.

Read more: https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ny-barbra-streisand-michael-jackson-accusers-thrilled-sexual-needs-20190323-7z3b2dqgbzh7jfs4yyhqhdfjyi-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Reply Barbra Streisand says Michael Jackson's accusers were 'thrilled to be there' and his 'sexual needs w (Original post)
Jose Garcia Mar 2019 OP
still_one Mar 2019 #1
CountAllVotes Mar 2019 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #8
Merlot Mar 2019 #12
still_one Mar 2019 #13
cstanleytech Mar 2019 #20
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #16
CountAllVotes Mar 2019 #29
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #47
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #49
lunamagica Mar 2019 #30
YOHABLO Mar 2019 #33
lunamagica Mar 2019 #35
True Blue American Mar 2019 #41
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #48
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #37
StarryNite Mar 2019 #2
InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #57
liberalmuse Mar 2019 #60
Wabbajack_ Mar 2019 #3
marble falls Mar 2019 #4
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #17
True Blue American Mar 2019 #42
True Blue American Mar 2019 #58
BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #6
Chicago1980 Mar 2019 #24
BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #46
pnwmom Mar 2019 #7
Lotusflower70 Mar 2019 #9
bullwinkle428 Mar 2019 #10
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #18
TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #50
oldsoftie Mar 2019 #52
InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #55
salin Mar 2019 #11
DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #14
patricia92243 Mar 2019 #15
Capt. America Mar 2019 #19
RandySF Mar 2019 #21
TygrBright Mar 2019 #22
USALiberal Mar 2019 #23
CountAllVotes Mar 2019 #25
mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #28
meadowlander Mar 2019 #36
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #38
Jose Garcia Mar 2019 #45
Beakybird Mar 2019 #26
dem4decades Mar 2019 #27
InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #56
Doodley Mar 2019 #31
Doodley Mar 2019 #32
YOHABLO Mar 2019 #34
JonLP24 Mar 2019 #39
Shemp Howard Mar 2019 #40
Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2019 #43
True Blue American Mar 2019 #44
TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #51
Shemp Howard Mar 2019 #53
InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #54
liberalmuse Mar 2019 #59
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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:59 PM

1. Is that really Barbara Stresand or Roseanne Barr in disguise? What a bullshit statement

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:04 PM

5. +1,000 !!

Damn right!

MJ was acquitted by a jury of his peers.

If you look into this more you will see the lies being spread about a dead man that is not here to defend himself!

This whole thing sickens me.

Bunch of greedy parasites looking for more $$$ is what it is all about.

May the King of Pop RIP!

And why is this LBN?

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:12 PM

8. It's LBN because Streisand just said it today.

Yes, he was acquitted in a criminal case, but in 1993, he was accused of sexually abusing the child of a family friend; the claim was investigated and the case was settled out of court for $25 million in 1994. You don't pony up that kind of money if you didn't do anything at all. The claimants still had the burden of proof and it would seem that Jackson's lawyers figured they'd be able to meet that burden if there was a trial.

What Streisand said was outrageous.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:22 PM

12. Also, these two testified for MJ in one of the cases

As adults, they understand why as a child they defended him. Had they not testified, who knows if he would have been found guilty.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:25 PM

13. It is outrageous

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:48 PM

20. Actually if you fear the bad PR of a protracted case hurting you

for potentially hundreds of millions in lost sales you might very well be tempted to pony up a settlement especially if your advisers tell you that it would be cheaper.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:38 PM

16. Acquitted of a different charge.

Neither of those guys is getting anything from the estate; the statute of limitations has passed.
Just like R Kelley, too many parents fell victim to a predator thinking their kids would become famous or they would get paid.

10 undeniable facts about Michael Jacksons sexual abuse allegations:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

29. Robson sued and his case was tossed!

He's giving it another try.

It is all about money!

Do your research! Robson sued for $1.5 billion in 2013. The case was dismissed.

Now he is looking for money again.

That is the reality of this!

Again, WHY is this LBN?

It is gossip and nothing more!

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #29)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:50 AM

47. And again, the time limit has expired. He's not trying to get money from them.

And they have their cash cow to protect, so pedophilia be damned!!

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #29)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:52 AM

49. And i DID the research; thats why i linked to the FACTS about Jackson's pedophilia.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:13 AM

30. This is a matter of common sense. Do you think that it is normal for a grown man to sleep with

Young boys?

There is absolutely nothing that justifies that. Only a pervert would insist that aa child spent the night with him and not with their families. The whole thing was sick and perverted and I can't believe anyone buys it was innocent.

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #30)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 01:22 AM

33. Excuse me, but there are a lot of boy scout leaders who've been sleeping with boys forever.

 

And for all the wrong reasons you might imagine. Just sayin.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:17 AM

35. GMAB, there is no comparison. This was a man who was taking young boys to his personal

home, his BEDROOM, often one on one.

Boy Scout leaders don't do that.

Such an absurd, pretzel logic.

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #35)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:26 AM

41. Greedy parents

Allowed this. Any normal parent would question sleepovers by adult men.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #41)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:51 AM

48. Greedy parents. Exactly. They put it out of their mind to maybe profit from it.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 04:10 AM

37. I never thought I'd see on DU the "but other people do it" excuse for sexual child abuse. Wow. . .nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:01 PM

2. Really disappointing.

I always liked her but geez not so sure I do anymore after this.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:23 AM

57. Time to start burning her records!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #57)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:58 AM

60. What?

No. Fascists are the ones who burn shit thinking that somehow makes a point. By now I’m sure she knows she fucked up and is being hit by a shitstorm. Her albums already by far and large take up the most space in every thrift store record bin I've ever gone through.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:01 PM

3. wtf



She really said this? This is a monstrous thing to say.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:03 PM

4. I think sexual exploitation of anyone is jailable. I also think those victimized little boys' ...

parents have some complicity, too.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:38 PM

17. Yes they do! They had dollar signs in their eyes & thoughts of fame for their kids.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:27 AM

42. Yes!

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Response to marble falls (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:37 AM

58. They have a great deal

Of complicity. The parents allowed that to happen.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:08 PM

6. So sex with a 7 year-old is ok

as long as you’re special?

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:47 PM

24. Evidence?

Got any?

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #24)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:22 AM

46. Oh, look, another defender

Michael was just an asexual Pied Piper, a harmless big kid, right?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:09 PM

7. So a pedophiles needs are a pedophiles needs? Does she have dementia? nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:16 PM

9. What the actual fuck?

Babs need to check herself.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:16 PM

10. Wow. The most cringe-worthy comments about sexual assault since Whoopi Goldberg's

comments about Roman Polanski.

Hollywood has rallied behind Roman Polanski after his arrest in Switzerland over the weekend, with the actor Whoopi Goldberg suggesting that whatever he was guilty of it wasn't "rape-rape".

As a guest on The View chatshow on US television, she said: "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like, 'You know what, this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail. I'm not staying.' So that's why he left."

Later in the programme she added: "We're a different kind of society, we see things differently ... would I want my 14-year-old having sex with somebody? Not necessarily, no."


https://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/sep/29/roman-polanski-whoopi-goldberg

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:39 PM

18. "wasnt RAPE rape". Disgusting.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:55 AM

50. Yeah because all 14 year olds

WANT to be penetrated 3 ways while drunk and high. FUCK WG. She defended Michael Vick too.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #50)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:01 AM

52. Oh, i didnt know that either. What the hell?

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:21 AM

55. It's shocking!!


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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:18 PM

11. My heart heaved, reading this.

Sorry Barbara, minimizing extreme trauma (or erasing it altogether) but recognizing something bad happened - then placing it on the parents rather than the perpetrator - is just gross. No, that is too soft. It is revolting.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:27 PM

14. Oh Babs, no. Literally nothing on this Earth required you to say anything, much less that. nt

 

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:35 PM

15. wonder if she is a little senile.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:46 PM

19. I love you Bar, please don't do this.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:12 PM

21. Holy shit.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:20 PM

22. How is this unpleasant celebrity gossip "Late Breaking News"? n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:23 PM

23. 1400 views, so, your wrong! Nt

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:56 PM

25. There is great controversy surrounding this "film"

It is sadly not over yet 10 years after MJ's death.

One-fourth of it has been discarded.

Seems no one cares how this constant badgering may be affecting his children! None of them were affected by any untoward behavior by MJ. Don't you think if this was the case there would be a problem for them by now? The only problems they seem have is fighting off the cruel paparazzi and the tabloids.

As for Robson, he is in debt and has a history of lying.

Why the hell is this Late Breaking News when the person being accused again is DEAD?


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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:18 PM

28. Not everyone who would molest A kid ... would necessarily molest THEIR kid ...

In fact I'd venture a guess that probably most ... wouldn't.

Just sayin'.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #25)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:24 AM

36. Yes, there's obviously nothing going on with those kids...

Isn't one of the sons basically mute and never seen in public and the daughter has made multiple suicide attempts?

The whole point of the documentary (which I respectfully suggest you need to either watch or watch again) was that child sexual abuse is extremely confusing for the child who mixes up feeling of love and protectiveness with what it happening to them and that it can take them decades to recognise that it even is abuse. Both of the accusers said it wasn't until they had their own kids and watched how they understood the world and thought about the same things happening to them that they realised that what had happened to them was wrong.

Probably the least surprising news I could possibly predict for the 2020s-2030s is one of Michael Jackson's kids writing a tell all that reveals he abused them too.

And you can have late breaking news that changes how a public figure is perceived even long after their death. For example, the accusations against Jimmy Saville after his death affected his legacy significantly and his work was pulled off the air. A lot of the fallout was around people who covered for him and the way institutions closed ranks.

And part of what makes this news is that there are people in Hollywood who refuse to see what has been blatantly obvious since 1993... that Michael Jackson was a serial sexual abuser of children who was allowed to get away with it in plain sight for decades simply because he was famous.

There are five accusers, not just Robson, and parts of their stories are corroborated (for example, by a maid who testified that she saw Jackson showering naked with Safechuck).

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #25)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 04:17 AM

38. If MJ had a care about his own kid's future (such as your concern) he wouldn't have been an abuser


He wouldn't have behaved in perverted ways with young children. You might be able to convince some that one case or another is overblown, but there are many cases and a mountain of evidence that MJ's motives and actions were far from pure.

Concern about his children? We know that MJ dangled one of his children out over the edge of a high balcony in public. Who knows what he did to them in private.

Death is no antidote to the facts.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #25)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 07:31 AM

45. The story is about Ms. Striesand, who appears to be alive

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:01 PM

26. Disappointed in Barbara. Very.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:04 PM

27. Does Barbara think Sandusky's victims liked being abused in the shower too?

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:23 AM

56. Probably... what a sick, sick, sick person.


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Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:59 AM

32. Bit of an over-reaction. Listen to what she is actually saying, instead of looking for the worst

interpretation.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 01:26 AM

34. There is something really fishy about these now young men coming forward. Parents are responsible

 

for what their young children do. The fact they would allow their young sons to sleep over in the first place is just wrong.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #34)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 04:41 AM

39. I think sociopaths know what kind of families to target or take advantage of

Like R. Kelly who knew what parents he could manipulate.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:16 AM

40. Over-reaction ??!!

This is right from the article. A direct quote:

“His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has," Streisand told The Times. “You can say ‘molested,' but those children, as you heard say [grown-up Robson and Safechuck], they were thrilled to be there. They both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them.”

How anyone could begin to defend Streisand on this is beyond me.

A rape victim is often "thrilled" to be with his/her eventual attacker. Maybe they are at a party together, or on a date. Then the rape starts. And then the thrill is gone.

"...it didn’t kill them.” That is a horrible and miserable thing to say, especially since Streisand says that she “absolutely” believes the allegations. Let that sink in. Streisand believes the abuse happened. But it's no big deal.

So why are Streisand and Jackson being defended here at DU? It's hero worship, plain and simple.



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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:29 AM

43. She should become a spokescreature for the Catholic bishops n/t

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:36 AM

44. I do not defend either one.

And most certainly do not defend the parents of those children. It had been obvious for some time that MJ had problems stemming from his Father.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:58 AM

51. I don't care if they had a grand old time

A MINOR CANNOT GIVE CONSENT!!!

When will people get it through their thick skulls?

ANY rape is RAPE!

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #51)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:20 AM

53. You don't understand.

Michael Jackson was one of the beautiful people. Part of the entertainment elite. So we must excuse away his vile behavior. Roman Polanski is also one of the beautiful people. So we must excuse away his vile behavior.

Barbra Streisand is also one of the beautiful people. So we must excuse away her disgusting comments.

See how that works?

(maximum sarcasm, of course)

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:20 AM

54. WTF?!?!

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:49 AM

59. I wish she'd kept her thoughts to herself.

How out of touch are you when you defend a pedophile? “Sexual needs” being used pertaining to an adult raping a child? Oh my God.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 10:24 AM

61. Locking...

The consensus of Forum Hosts agrees the opinions of celebrities are not important news of national interest. Please post this in the General Discussions Forum

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