Nadler begins conversation about timing for Barr appearance on the Hill

[bearsfootball516]

Source: NBC

WASHINGTON — House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler has contacted the Department of Justice to set a date for Attorney General William Barr to testify on special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia report, according to a senior aide involved in the process. Those discussions are taking place as some committee Democrats are saying Barr must fill in more blanks on the report within the next week, according to a lawmaker and senior leadership aide.

Committee Democrats are huddling this evening to discuss their next steps, according to two lawmakers on the committee.

On Sunday following Barr’s release of his four-page summary of Mueller’s report, Nadler, in a joint statement, called on Barr to testify before his committee “without delay,” but did not offer a timeline.

Democrats are also calling for more excerpts from the Mueller report to be made public, in addition to the underlying documents Mueller obtained throughout the course of his two-year investigation.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/nadler-begins-conversation-about-timing-barr-appearance-hill-n987016?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

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[underthematrix]

1. This means someone has made the Mueller report available to the Dems

[beachbum bob]

2. when will democrats start playing hardball???

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. What would you call what they're doing now?

How much harder can they get?

[Mr.Bill]

5. Calling for perjury indictments for all

the Trump administration officials that have lied to Congress would be a good start.

[ehrnst]

6. OK. Who would they "call" to issue the indictments?

Do you know how that works?

[Mr.Bill]

8. Actuall, I don't, but someone must have that authority.

And someone in Congress should know, right?

[FBaggins]

11. Someone does have that authority

But they all answer to the Attorney General.

Somethingorother Barr is his name if I remember correctly.

[Mr.Bill]

16. Whether he'll do it or not,

they should be screaming for it. At least make him say he won't do it.

[ehrnst]

17. So, if they aren't "screaming," they aren't doing their job?

[ehrnst]

15. That sounds like ranting at Democratic reps now because the Mueller report

didn't result in a perp walk for Trump. Anger feels more powerful than disappointment when one feels powerless.

Maybe you aren't familiar with history. It took two years to impeach Nixon, and we only got back Congress in February.

There are multiple investigations going on right now, in different AG offices, and in congressional commitees, in ADDITION to the legislative work that we sent Dems to congress to do.

Maybe you didn't hear about Elijah Cummings saying that they were going to be questioning everyone that Cohen mentioned in his testimony?

[Mr.Bill]

19. My comment has to do with more than the Mueller report.

It has to do with people lying to Congress. It goes all the way back to Sessions lying during his confirmation hearings, for instance.

There is now and has been many other things going on besides the Mueller report. We must attack from all angles. Otherwise, they just keep moving the ball around.

[ehrnst]

21. Why do you think they are not attacking from all angles? As you said yourself

you don't really know much about indictments for perjury, but you were sure angry at Democrats for "not doing it."

You're angry. This doesn't mean the Democratic congress that has been in session less then two months is the reason for it.

[Mr.Bill]

22. Numerous Trump officials have lied to Congress.

You are damn right I'm angry that no one has been indicted for it. Is it okay with you?

[ehrnst]

25. Um... Michael Cohen?

So, not being as furious with our Democratic leadership as you are because they aren't "screaming" for indicting everyone you think needs to be right this very minute = being "OK" with people lying to congress.

A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Congress doesn't have the power to charge people with crimes.

What they do have is the power to make them testify, and if they lie, to refer them to the DoJ for prosecution for lying to Congress. But they can't directly charge or indict anyone. It looks to me like they will be subpoenaing people to testify.

[FBaggins]

14. Actually... they have a little power in that regard

They have the inherent power related to charges of contempt of Congress (including the ability to jail those found guilty).

They haven't used it in about a century, can't jail people past the end of the current term/session (can't remember), and it would be a really dumb idea to try... but they do have the power.

[NewJeffCT]

18. They would refer any perjury charges

to the Justice Department to enforce.

How would that go you think?

[Mr.Bill]

20. It would go better than saying nothing at all about

people lying to Congress. At least make them refuse to indict them. How do you think that would go?

[ehrnst]

23. "Saying nothing at all about people lying to congress?"

What are you even talking about?

Does the name Michael Cohen ring a bell? He's going to jail for it....

Maybe Adam Schiff?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/nation/article/Key-Democrat-urges-perjury-investigation-of-13438022.php

You're welcome.

[Mr.Bill]

24. Good. That's one.

How about the rest?

[ehrnst]

26. Why don't you go to capitol hill, call a meeting with our Democratic leaders

and tell them how they can accomplish this in a timeframe that will make you feel better, because you clearly think they are refusing to do what they can, and that you know far more about what is and isn't possible for them right now.

Let us know how that goes.

By the way, can you remind us how many people in American history have been indicted for perjury in front of Congress? Other than Michael Cohen, I mean.

You didn't seem to know about Michael Cohen, but you sure seem to know about the indictment process, so let us know, OK?

[Mr.Bill]

27. Your sarcasm is duly noted.

Thank you for your huge contribution.

[ehrnst]

28. I certainly corrected you on several things.

You're welcome for the information.

You haven't put forth one suggestion that's based in any understanding of the process. Just that you are mad, and if you are mad, that means our Democratic Congress reps are not doing their job.

[Mr.Bill]

29. The only useful information I've gotten form this discussion

is posts #11 and #14. All I've gotten from you are rudeness, insults and sarcasm.

Good day.

[ehrnst]

32. I'll take that as a thank you. You're welcome.

[DeminPennswoods]

33. Dems can easily zero out DoJ's budget

and/or authorize expenditures only on specific activies among other financial actions.

[ehrnst]

4. ???

[yaesu]

9. There is nothing that can be done to remove or punish the orange nazi

Dems just don't have the numbers, they have plenty of reasons but not the votes. They can try & tie up the House doing it which is something repugs would gladly do to a Dem pres & I wouldn't mind if Dems did this, giving the fascists daily hell. There is wrist slapping options like censures & “sense of Congress” resolutions but I'm unsure they could even pull that off now.

[Chin music]

7. The 'date' they say will be very instructive as to

how urgent all of this is. A week away is too long. We have waited our required "patient American", guilt trip for two years now. Justice delayed is justice denied....and we waited 2 years for this already. Mueller couldnt have finished up a 'no collusion' report when we had other AGs? Just conveniently was ready shortly after the clean-up guy Barr was seated?
Every minute wasted is a minute closer to the next election getting robbed. What congressional committee is inspecting and safeguarding voting boxes NOW. TODAY.
Personally, I don't have any interest in getting excited about electing the next group of people.....who'll then do nothing when the gop does something. We just elected a Blue Wave for a reason. GET TO WORK IN ERNEST CONGRESS. You're OUR guys. Show you care. Perpetual presidential races are secondary to me at this point. Let's see the fruits of our last hard work, to get us congress.

[ehrnst]

12. Perhaps you don't know that we only got congress back after the shutdown, right?

. Mueller couldnt have finished up a 'no collusion' report when we had other AGs?

Perhaps you are also unaware that congress wasn't the one doing the investigating, and does not direct "other AGs?"

What congressional committee is inspecting and safeguarding voting boxes NOW. TODAY.

Congress doesn't "inspect and safeguard voting boxes."

Personally, I don't have any interest in getting excited about electing the next group of people.....who'll then do nothing when the gop does something.

Dems are "doing nothing when the GOP does something?"

Perhaps you don't know about all the investigations going on right now in Congress?

It seems you are angry, and seem to need a scapegoat. I suggest that a selecting Democratic led congress for such isn't a wise choice on Democratic Underground.

[EricMaundry]

13. Nice sequencing

I like the timing. Barr gets up and tells a bunch of absurd lies, then Nadler brings Mueller in to expose Barr.

Nice!

[lagomorph777]

30. Don't even bother with Barr until after Mueller speaks.

Then interrogate Barr and detail his role in the coverup.

[Iliyah]

31. I read that Graham

threaten the Democrats that if they don't "drop" their investigation on obstruction he would have no other alternative but request for a "another" investigation into HRC e-mails.

These people are sick.

It's time for the Republican party to go away . . .

[DeminPennswoods]

34. Barr is scheduled to appear before the House Appropriations Cmte

on April 6th already, but hopefully Nadler will get him in front of Judiciary between now and then.