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DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:46 PM Apr 2019

Conspiracy Theorists Blame Jews, Muslims For Notre Dame Fire

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The Forward

As the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris became engulfed in fire on Monday, conspiracy theorists quickly got to work - blaming the blaze on Jews.



Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/422630/jews-muslims-blame-notre-dame-fire-conspiracy/



That didn't take long.
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Conspiracy Theorists Blame Jews, Muslims For Notre Dame Fire (Original Post) DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 OP
my RW crazy zombie relatives are blaming Muslims CharleyDog Apr 2019 #1
Yup. RW websites silent about taxes on tax day. Speaks volumes. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #4
Really tell them that Muslims wait on line to go in an see the marvel Historic NY Apr 2019 #31
I bet it was one of those candles they lit during Holy Week that started the fire. kimbutgar Apr 2019 #2
It was being remodeled at the time. I'll bet that's the cause. nt okaawhatever Apr 2019 #32
Because, after 800+ years, the Jews could not stand having lapfog_1 Apr 2019 #3
Jews helped finance the building of the Cathedral. defacto7 Apr 2019 #19
not to mention that an archbishop lapfog_1 Apr 2019 #20
France has a wonderful history of that behavior still_one Apr 2019 #5
Well, they would hardly be alone in that, wouldn't they Grokenstein Apr 2019 #8
Yes, they do. Behind the Aegis Apr 2019 #17
I was assuming it was coming from groups within France coming from LePen like groups still_one Apr 2019 #24
Trump Tower On The Seine Cetacea Apr 2019 #6
I really dislike people these days. Sapient Donkey Apr 2019 #7
Has anyone checked out Steve Bannon? louis c Apr 2019 #9
Yes. Last night on MSNBC Cetacea Apr 2019 #26
Yes, Same Here McKim Apr 2019 #29
He's been working Europe for some time Cetacea Apr 2019 #30
It's the truth, WW1, WW2. How many died? demosincebirth Apr 2019 #28
What's the truth? DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #33
Well of course -- them and the bicyclists . . . Journeyman Apr 2019 #10
That was a great scene in the movie. DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #34
Also them thar Lutherans and Buddhists, they did it too!! mitch96 Apr 2019 #35
Who snitched? marble falls Apr 2019 #40
OK. Now blame Trump's white supremacists for a false flag operation. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #11
I saw somebody NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #16
Strange modrepub Apr 2019 #12
Obviously it is Protestant Republican Trump supporters OKIsItJustMe Apr 2019 #13
They are out in full force at the freeper sewer. SeattleVet Apr 2019 #14
ugh rim-job land is still around 47of74 Apr 2019 #22
You mean Republicans? BlueIdaho Apr 2019 #15
A well-known pro-Assad tweeter said Macron set it ... 11cents Apr 2019 #18
How is that the first thing they think of?! Lucky Luciano Apr 2019 #21
For what it's worth, The Cathedral of Saint-Sulpice defacto7 Apr 2019 #23
Yeah, cause Jews and Muslims work together on this sort of thing bluescribbler Apr 2019 #25
Yes, isn't it beautiful? Collimator Apr 2019 #27
What conspiracy theorists think has never been LBN. Let's keep it that way. Thank you. progree Apr 2019 #36
+1000 BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #37
Obviously it was the Huguenots Jose Garcia Apr 2019 #38
It never takes long. Behind the Aegis Apr 2019 #39
Couldn't even wait a day or two. marble falls Apr 2019 #41
After a review by forum hosts...locking. Omaha Steve Apr 2019 #42

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
1. my RW crazy zombie relatives are blaming Muslims
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

they just "know"

PS and crickets on their tax bill.

so ashamed of them. Really. Ashamed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
4. Yup. RW websites silent about taxes on tax day. Speaks volumes. . . . nt
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:57 PM
Apr 2019

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
31. Really tell them that Muslims wait on line to go in an see the marvel
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:44 PM
Apr 2019

of the construction. They also go to Sacré-Cœur Basilica to see the large Christ mosaic & the bells.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
2. I bet it was one of those candles they lit during Holy Week that started the fire.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

The conspiracy theories are not surprising.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
32. It was being remodeled at the time. I'll bet that's the cause. nt
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:46 PM
Apr 2019

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
3. Because, after 800+ years, the Jews could not stand having
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:53 PM
Apr 2019

a cathedral in Paris...
one of over 197 churches and cathedrals in Paris.
(Ok, Notre Dame is not just any church)

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
19. Jews helped finance the building of the Cathedral.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:04 PM
Apr 2019

There are 12 statues on the front, no they are not the apostles, they are kings of Israel.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
20. not to mention that an archbishop
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:15 PM
Apr 2019

of France who is buried at the cathedral of Norte Dame was a converted Jewish man who's parents died in the Holocaust.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
5. France has a wonderful history of that behavior
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
8. Well, they would hardly be alone in that, wouldn't they
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:15 PM
Apr 2019

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
17. Yes, they do.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:54 PM
Apr 2019

Though, I don't know if the theories are coming from French citizens. Thankfully, the anti-Semitism is coming from RW nuts, so we can look forward to it be condemned as bad, instead of ignored or excused.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
24. I was assuming it was coming from groups within France coming from LePen like groups
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:31 PM
Apr 2019

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
6. Trump Tower On The Seine
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:08 PM
Apr 2019

I can do it too!

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
7. I really dislike people these days.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019

Between stuff like these racist idiots trying to exploit it to spread their racist hate against jews and/or muslims, and those celebrating it because France or "whites" deserve for it to burn because of colonialism, I had to stop reading stuff about it on social media.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
9. Has anyone checked out Steve Bannon?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:17 PM
Apr 2019

<snip>VATICAN CITY — Strolling through St. Peter’s Square, the heart of the Roman Catholic Church, Steve Bannon surveyed the enemy camp.

The populist political consultant has a new target in his crusade against “globalism” — Pope Francis.

“He’s the administrator of the church, and he’s also a politician,” said Bannon, a former adviser to President Donald Trump. “This is the problem. ... He’s constantly putting all the faults in the world on the populist nationalist movement.”<snip>

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/steve-bannon-u-s-ultra-conservatives-take-aim-pope-francis-n991411

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
26. Yes. Last night on MSNBC
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:47 PM
Apr 2019

And my first thought upon learning of the fires were of him.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
29. Yes, Same Here
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:09 PM
Apr 2019

I have been quite dismayed at Bannon’s put downs of a great pope. Who does this little man think he is to criticize Pope Francis? And worse, the news media carries his opinions as if he actually had stature in the world!

We are living in highly charged times, swimming in an atmosphere of hyper reality. So much so that I was deeply afraid that this was an attack on the cathedral from The Right as a false flag event to cause chaos in the world. And I consider myself a rational person!

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
30. He's been working Europe for some time
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:42 PM
Apr 2019

Spreading his gospel...

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
28. It's the truth, WW1, WW2. How many died?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:00 PM
Apr 2019

DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
33. What's the truth?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:58 PM
Apr 2019

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
10. Well of course -- them and the bicyclists . . .
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:26 PM
Apr 2019

DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
34. That was a great scene in the movie.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:59 PM
Apr 2019

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
35. Also them thar Lutherans and Buddhists, they did it too!!
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:21 PM
Apr 2019

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
40. Who snitched?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
11. OK. Now blame Trump's white supremacists for a false flag operation.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019

OK. Now blame Trump's white supremacists for a false flag operation.

Just playing their game.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. I saw somebody
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:50 PM
Apr 2019

blaming the yellow vests for the fire. This person was not in the US, but also not in France.

Not sure if that qualifies as a conspiracy theory

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
12. Strange
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019

but Catholics (who "own" Notre Dame) are not much higher on the racial pecking order for white nationalists then the people they wish to blame. Seems a bit odd for them to suddenly embrace them as one of their own (especially since many despise Pope Francis).

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
13. Obviously it is Protestant Republican Trump supporters
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:31 PM
Apr 2019

It is a Roman Catholic icon in a socialist state.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
14. They are out in full force at the freeper sewer.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:40 PM
Apr 2019

If you value your blood pressure, stay away.

I'm ready to take a long hot shower after an ill-advised wade into that sludgehole.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
22. ugh rim-job land is still around
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:19 PM
Apr 2019

fuck them

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. You mean Republicans?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:42 PM
Apr 2019

Yeah - they’re all fucking crazy...

11cents

(1,777 posts)
18. A well-known pro-Assad tweeter said Macron set it ...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:57 PM
Apr 2019

.... and plans to put the blame on the "Yellow Vests."

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
21. How is that the first thing they think of?!
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:15 PM
Apr 2019

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
23. For what it's worth, The Cathedral of Saint-Sulpice
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:19 PM
Apr 2019

in Paris was set on fire exactly one month ago today on March 15th. It was determined to be arson. This is April 15th. Coincidence, accident or arson, I'm sure all of those options are on the table. But blame is stupid at this point. I'm guilty of suggesting a target earlier but I was not thinking clearly. This loss is personally difficult for me. We have to wait.

bluescribbler

(2,116 posts)
25. Yeah, cause Jews and Muslims work together on this sort of thing
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:41 PM
Apr 2019

All the time.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
27. Yes, isn't it beautiful?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:52 PM
Apr 2019

Jews and Muslims coming together to make way for urban renewal so the Blacks can take over prime real estate in Paris. Who says Conspiracy Theorists can't see the bright side of things?

(do I really need the sarcasm emoji?)

progree

(10,904 posts)
36. What conspiracy theorists think has never been LBN. Let's keep it that way. Thank you.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:31 PM
Apr 2019

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
37. +1000
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:43 PM
Apr 2019

Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
38. Obviously it was the Huguenots
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:49 PM
Apr 2019

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
39. It never takes long.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

To these people (and several others), behind every great tragedy lies a Jew. For some, anti-Semitism is as much an artform, a medium, as it is hate for the Jew. When we aren't destroying things, we are hypnotizing poor, hapless people to do our bidding, like a puppet on a string, because no one is as powerful as the Jew; or so the story goes.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
41. Couldn't even wait a day or two.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:05 PM
Apr 2019

Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
42. After a review by forum hosts...locking.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:09 PM
Apr 2019

Not important news. OPINIONS of conspiracy theorists are not LBN.

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