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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:42 PM Apr 2019

Sarah Sanders Admitted to the Special Counsel That She Lied About Comey

Source: motherjones







2 hours ago

She says her claims about the former FBI director were a “slip of the tongue.”


We’re still making our way through a redacted version of Robert Mueller’s 448-page report on the Russia investigation, but one of the early revelations that has emerged is the extent to which President Donald Trump’s officials have lied on his behalf. White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders produced one sizable whopper in May 2017, in the aftermath of FBI Director James Comey’s firing, when she suggested that he was unpopular among the bureau’s rank and file.

After a reporter claimed that a “vast majority” of agents supported Comey, Sanders replied, “Look, we’ve heard from countless members of the FBI that say very different things.”


That response was “not founded on anything,” Mueller’s office concluded after interviewing Sanders, who told special counsel staffers she had made a “slip of the tongue.” The report also says she spoke to the president after that press conference and he told her she did a “good job and did not point out any inaccuracies in her comments.”

The lack of evidence for this sentiment didn’t stop Trump from latching on to it in an interview with Lester Holt of NBC News a day later. He said the FBI was in “virtual turmoil” under Comey.........................................

Read more: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/04/mueller-report-sarah-sanders-lie-comey-firing/






Sarah Huckabee Sanders admitted to Mueller that her statement to reporters about Comey wasn't 'founded on anything'

https://theweek.com/speedreads/836108/sarah-huckabee-sanders-admitted-mueller-that-statement-reporters-about-comey-wasnt-founded-anything
1:10 p.m.


White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders acknowledged a claim she once made about former FBI Director James Comey was completely false, Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report says.

Mueller's report details President Trump's firing of Comey in 2017, noting that Sanders spoke in a press briefing and insisted that the FBI had lost confidence in Comey. This, she said, was based on hearing as much from "countless members of the FBI."

But the Mueller report says that "the evidence does not support those claims" and that Trump, in fact, specifically told Comey that "the people of the FBI really like [him]." Sanders "acknowledged to investigations that her comments were not founded on anything," although she claimed this was a "slip of the tongue." She also claimed that when she repeated in a separate interview that the FBI had lost confidence in Comey, she did so "in the heat of the moment."............................







Replying to @RWPUSA @PressSec

If she didn't #shill for this #IllegitimateRegime she wouldn't have a job.
Good thing Daddy's one of those snake oil salesmen who #shills for the #GOP-style God.
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aldamar
? @aldamar11
2h2 hours ago

Replying to @RWPUSA @PressSec

Just like the majority of what she and this administration says. NOT FOUNDED ON ANYTHING. Just attempts to obfuscate. Sickening how so many people can do so much to damage our democracy and not think twice about what that means.
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Allan Funk
? @Radar_Funk
2h2 hours ago

Replying to @RWPUSA @PressSec

It's a requirement to work in this WhiteHouse.
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Samm Johnson
? @johnsonsamm
2h2 hours ago

Replying to @RWPUSA @PressSec

She must resign.

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Sarah Sanders Admitted to the Special Counsel That She Lied About Comey (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2019 OP
Christians are never above lying for the Lord. Thomas Hurt Apr 2019 #1
And humans are never above lying simply for self-interest. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #7
no difference, except those Christians who do this are using God as an excuse for their bad acts. Thomas Hurt Apr 2019 #12
And that lord is now Trump to many of these RW Evangelicals ck4829 Apr 2019 #21
Her Daddy done give her a git outta hell free pass. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #27
Actually, that shouldn't be true Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2019 #29
So, the lesson is... JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #2
I'm all for it. But we need to remember how during the early Obama years the courts ... marble falls Apr 2019 #4
Fox News also claimed it's only " entertainment" TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #13
Glen Beck claimed be a rodeo clown. He's at least half right - I don't know if he's ever been ... marble falls Apr 2019 #16
+1 ck4829 Apr 2019 #22
I love this tidbit SO MUCH Leghorn21 Apr 2019 #3
She's a good Christian woman from a deeply Christian family. JohnnyRingo Apr 2019 #5
But she's forgiven TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #17
That atheists are automatically going to hell is NOT what the Catholic Church teaches. Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2019 #30
huckdiddlydee lied CountAllVotes Apr 2019 #6
Hey Sarah Ohioboy Apr 2019 #8
good one!! riversedge Apr 2019 #11
+1 ck4829 Apr 2019 #23
We knew it all the time. Marcuse Apr 2019 #9
Shocking!.......... riversedge Apr 2019 #10
I am shocked! Totally shocked that she lied! (/sarcasm) ck4829 Apr 2019 #24
And again, no repercussions for lying and destroying people's reputations. It's all good, I guess. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #14
MSM needs to remind her of THIS every time she bluestarone Apr 2019 #15
How about a press boycott of all White House shills lying. SHS, Kellyann, Katrina, etc.? Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #18
Indeed, it's on them now ck4829 Apr 2019 #25
April Ryan, on CNN, went off on her DeminPennswoods Apr 2019 #28
1st question, next news conference WVlaserguy Apr 2019 #19
K&R ck4829 Apr 2019 #20
And this morning she's doubling down on "slip of the tongue." Vinca Apr 2019 #26
mea culpa is like a badge the wingers wear... Maxheader Apr 2019 #31
She is a good Propagandists, much like Baghdad Bob was for Saddam Hussein Fla Dem Apr 2019 #32
Major-league kudos to Stephen Robinson @ Wonkette.com: Paladin Apr 2019 #33
That could not be considered by any stretch of the imagination a "slip of the tongue." Nitram Apr 2019 #34

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
29. Actually, that shouldn't be true
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:25 AM
Apr 2019

One of the greatest Christian writers, Augustine of Hippo (354-430) wrote two book about lying, De Mendacio (About Lying) and Contra Mendacium (Against Lying). In the first, Augustine says that a lie is not so much a distortion of the meaning of the words as it is a lack of fidelity to another person.

When Augustine defined of lying as being untrue to others, he disagreed with most other moralists, who allow equivocation, prevarication, or evasion if at least some meaning of the words can be considered true. But Augustine believed that in the most basic sense, what one says is irrelevant in itself, apart from the intention to deceive. As he points out, one can lie by speaking the truth, or with an expression, or even by silence. Suppose you are asked if you performed some good and heroic act, and you know that silence would be taken as a modest reluctance to claim what is true -- even if it is not. Your silence will deceive the questioner. The deception was your intent, and that intention to deceive is Augustine's definition of a lie.

Equivocators would not consider silence a lie, since silence is indeterminate. It is, of itself, equivocal. You can take from it what you want. The person keeping silence, equivocators would claim, is not responsible for another's misinterpretation of the silence, any more than a speaker is responsible for the listener's selection of one from multiple interpretations of the words. For Augustine, such an argument is beside the point. If you believe that silence or equivocal words would deceive, you are lying. Even if you fail to deceive, since you intend to lie, you are lying. If you make a true statement, knowing it will not be believed, and wanting it to be disbelieved, the statement may be true but you are false.

Which brings us to Augustine's main point. Truth telling is not minimalist or legalistic, but maximalist. It is an effort to live in the truth.


Augustine's Contra Mendacium considers the specific case about whether it is morally acceptable to lie in furtherance of a good cause. He said that it was not, for three reasons. First, since God is truth itself, to lie dishonors God and also dishonors the liar. Second, lying is itself a sin, and as Paul says, "Should we continue in sin in order that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin go on living in it?" (Romans 6:1-3) Third, when the person who is lied to discovers the lie, he will doubt the goodness of the cause itself.

The basic question is, "do the ends justify the means". According to the best moralists, it does not. See, for example, the quote from Romans in the previous paragraph. Unfortunately, many people, not just many Christians, believe that it does.


JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
2. So, the lesson is...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:47 PM
Apr 2019

The only way to get honest answers from her during press conferences is to put her under oath first.

She'll gladly spew lies day in and day out for POTUS, but she's not willing to perjure herself and do jail time for POTUS.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
4. I'm all for it. But we need to remember how during the early Obama years the courts ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:53 PM
Apr 2019

ruled that Fox news was was under no obligation to be factual or truthful in delivering the news, that "fair and balanced" was a motto and not a promise.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
16. Glen Beck claimed be a rodeo clown. He's at least half right - I don't know if he's ever been ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:47 PM
Apr 2019

to a rodeo.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
5. She's a good Christian woman from a deeply Christian family.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:55 PM
Apr 2019

Party, Family, and God, in that order.

There's a special place in Heaven for the Huckabees. Somebody has to cook, make beds, and do laundry or it wouldn't be Heaven for the rest of us.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,184 posts)
17. But she's forgiven
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:51 PM
Apr 2019

That's my beef with Christianity. As an atheist, I'm doomed to hell no matter how good and moral I am but a Mafioso hit man can be a good, believing Christian and get into heaven.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
30. That atheists are automatically going to hell is NOT what the Catholic Church teaches.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:27 AM
Apr 2019

And being a mafioso means that you are ipso facto a sinner.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
8. Hey Sarah
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:22 PM
Apr 2019

The American people are accepting apologies for your White House lies. That Kelly Anne Conway line goes both ways.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. And again, no repercussions for lying and destroying people's reputations. It's all good, I guess.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:36 PM
Apr 2019

Very disappointing to see the mountain of wrongdoings that have occurred, and none of them have come back on the wrongdoers. It's disheartening.

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
18. How about a press boycott of all White House shills lying. SHS, Kellyann, Katrina, etc.?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:43 PM
Apr 2019

And challenge Faux news in court to at least drop the "News" label from their entertainment TV?

DeminPennswoods

(15,285 posts)
28. April Ryan, on CNN, went off on her
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:22 AM
Apr 2019

yesterday. She said SHS has no credibility and should resign. She revealed that she has to have personal security now after SHS called her (and other media/members) "fake news".

WVlaserguy

(44 posts)
19. 1st question, next news conference
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:53 PM
Apr 2019

Sarah, you are a known and admitted liar. Why should we believe anything you say?

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
26. And this morning she's doubling down on "slip of the tongue."
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:05 AM
Apr 2019

She's an embarrassment, a liar and should be sent back to the local cult chapter.

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
32. She is a good Propagandists, much like Baghdad Bob was for Saddam Hussein
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:41 AM
Apr 2019


Saddam Hussein's Minister of information

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
33. Major-league kudos to Stephen Robinson @ Wonkette.com:
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:42 PM
Apr 2019

For his statement that anything Sanders says is "a lie wrapped in an insult."

Talk about truer words never having been spoken.....

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
34. That could not be considered by any stretch of the imagination a "slip of the tongue."
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:09 PM
Apr 2019

How about, "bald-faced lie?" Here are a few of Shakespeare's choice words about liars:

1. (S)he will lie, sir, with such volubility, that you would think truth were a fool

2. Measureless liar, thou hast made my heart too great for what contains it

3. If you will swear you have not done’t, you lie.

4. I say unto you again, you are a shallow cowardly hind, and you lie

5. An you lie, sirrah, we’ll have you whipp’d

6. Thou liest, abhorred tyrant; with my sword I’ll prove the lie thou speak’st

7. You told a lie, an odious, damned lie; Upon my soul, a lie, a wicked lie.

8. That lie shall lie so heavy on my sword, That it shall render vengeance and revenge, Till thou the lie-giver and that lie do lie, In earth as quiet as thy father’s skull

9. Thou liest, most ignorant monster

10. Thou liest, thou jesting monkey, thou

11. and as many lies as will lie in thy sheet of paper, although the sheet were big enough for the bed of Ware in England, set ’em down

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