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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:52 AM Apr 2019

Elon Musk to announce full autonomy for Teslas despite expert skepticism

Source: Axios

Amid skepticism, Tesla CEO Elon Musk today will unveil a plan to bring full autonomy to his electric cars, making them truly driverless vehicles, AP reports.

Be smart: Musk's description of Tesla's controls as "Full Self-Driving" has alarmed some observers who think it will give owners a false sense of security and create potentially lethal situations in conditions that the autonomous cars can't handle.

Driving the news: The technology Musk claims will make that quantum leap is scheduled to be shown off to Tesla investors at 2 p.m. ET at the company's HQ in Palo Alto, Calif.

Musk indicated in a recent interview that Teslas should be able to navigate congested highways and city streets without a human by next year.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/autonomous-vehicles-elon-musk-tesla-fb92bfa4-a43c-4f3f-a402-6e4293011fe7.html

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Elon Musk to announce full autonomy for Teslas despite expert skepticism (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
Hopefully the software isn't from the 737 MAX still_one Apr 2019 #1
I doubt it will work well as there are a ton of variables to deal with driving such as unexpected cstanleytech Apr 2019 #2
They know about those things... Lucky Luciano Apr 2019 #4
I am not so sure that being told the car might be willing to let you die in favor of someone else cstanleytech Apr 2019 #6
It is what it is. Lucky Luciano Apr 2019 #7
The advancement of technology happens with you or without you. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #9
Save myself manicdem Apr 2019 #10
Or in other words most people do not want to drive a car like Christine. cstanleytech Apr 2019 #11
It made me think of my days on an auto assembly line. Yikes. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2019 #13
LOL n/t DemSoc Apr 2019 #16
Tesla's promised $35,000 Model 3 is finally here Baclava Apr 2019 #3
That's what I'm waiting for. Kablooie Apr 2019 #5
Democrats to announce full impeachment hearings for Trump despite expert skepticism LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #8
I like this post blugbox Apr 2019 #14
Thanks. It just seemed to fit LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #15
This autonomous driving presentation is very impressive Zorro Apr 2019 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #17

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
2. I doubt it will work well as there are a ton of variables to deal with driving such as unexpected
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:07 PM
Apr 2019

people or animals suddenly stepping in front of an oncoming car or an idiot in another car suddenly doing a left turn in front of you to go into a business or road.

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
4. They know about those things...
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:25 PM
Apr 2019

They do spend some time wondering if the autonomous driver should sacrifice its passengers by crashing badly if doing so prevents a worse accident occurring like slamming into a crowd of people. A human might try to save themselves first, but the machine might be trained to optimize for the greater good. So these ethical things are often considered as well.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
6. I am not so sure that being told the car might be willing to let you die in favor of someone else
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:45 PM
Apr 2019

would be a good selling point.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. The advancement of technology happens with you or without you.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:36 PM
Apr 2019

Technology doesn't really care if we have good selling points or not.

manicdem

(388 posts)
10. Save myself
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:35 PM
Apr 2019

Indeed not a good selling point. People may not want to say it but they'll go for a competitors car that prioritizes saving their own life.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
3. Tesla's promised $35,000 Model 3 is finally here
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:23 PM
Apr 2019

The 220-mile version of Tesla’s cheapest car arrives three years after it was announced

Tesla is finally rolling out the long-awaited $35,000 version of the Model 3 in the United States. The company is currently making multiple versions of a “Standard Range” Model 3 that can travel around 220 miles on a single charge. Previously, the most affordable Model 3 started at $42,900 after a February price reduction.

The Standard Range base model will start at $35,000, offers a top speed of 130mph and can go from 0 to 60mph in 5.6 seconds. A second version called “Standard Range Plus” will be available for $37,000 with 240 miles of range, a top speed of 140mph, and will go from 0 to 60mph in 5.3 seconds.





https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/28/18245165/tesla-model-3-price-lower-cost-elon-musk-news



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Of course for the ones I wanted, no so good

"You can expect to pay between $66,900 and $92,000 for a used 2017 Model S"

The 2018 Model S starts at $74,500, but its price can climb to over $135,000 in top trim levels



https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/tesla/model-s/2017

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
5. That's what I'm waiting for.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:45 PM
Apr 2019

I can drive fine now but in a few years I may get to the point where it wouidn't be safe for me to drive.
Especially since I live up on a mountain with a long drive to the nearest store.

An autonomous car would allow me to remain in my current house even if I were too compromised to drive.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
8. Democrats to announce full impeachment hearings for Trump despite expert skepticism
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:25 PM
Apr 2019

Source: My dreams

Amid skepticism, Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi today will unveil a plan to bring full impeachment hearings against President Trump, making him truly have to defend his actions and behaviour, AP reports.

Be lawful and defend the Constitution: Democrats's description of their responsibility to move forward has alarmed some observers who think it will give Americans a sense of insecurity and create potentially lethal situations in conditions that the American voter's minds can't handle.

Impeachment the news: This legal avenue Democrats claim will make that quantum leap towards justice, and accountability is scheduled to be announced at 2 p.m. ET in the House of Representatives in Washington, DC.

Madame Speaker Pelosi indicated in a recent interview that the country should be able to navigate a now damaged and divided country without a President Trump by next year.


(apologies for going off thread)

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
12. This autonomous driving presentation is very impressive
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:45 PM
Apr 2019

Lots of technical details on the new processing architecture, neural nets, sensor integration, future Tesla ride-sharing service, etc.

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