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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:44 PM Sep 2012

Julia Garcia, Texas Mom, Sues Walmart After She Says Store Employees Ripped Up Her Money

Source: Huffington Post

Two Walmart employees are in hot water after they allegedly destroyed two $100 bills when a customer tried to pay with them.

According to Court House News, Julia Garcia is suing Walmart Stores after the "humiliating ordeal" she endured at the hands of two employees who accused her of using counterfeit currency at a San

Garcia says she was Christmas shopping with her children at a [Walmart] in San Antonio in December 2010 and entered a checkout lane around 2 a.m. Garcia says she paid for her $150 purchase with a $100 bill, a $50 bill and change.
"The cashier inspected the $100 bill, turned to another cashier and had a brief discussion, and returned to her register telling the plaintiff her money was 'fake,'" the complaint states. "The cashier proceeded to rip the $100 bill in half without performing any counterfeit detection tests. The metallic strip in the $100 bill was clearly visible."

Garcia claims that a manager named Russell was then called over. Russell allegedly told her that the money was counterfeit and that she would have to wait for the police.

According to the complaint, Garcia then pulled out another $100 bill that she had in her possession. She alleges that Russell took the second bill from her and ripped it in half as well, saying that it, too, was counterfeit.

Garcia claims that Walmart made her wait at the front of the store, "in plain sight of all passing customers," until police arrived. She said she was publicly humiliated by the store's employees who told other shoppers that she had been trying to use fake currency.

Finally, two police officers arrived at the store. Upon checking the torn notes, they determined that both were legal tender.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/julia-garcia-texas-sues-walmart-accused-of-counterfeit-money_n_1882400.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

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Julia Garcia, Texas Mom, Sues Walmart After She Says Store Employees Ripped Up Her Money (Original Post) trailmonkee Sep 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #1
The employees should be tried for destroying legal tender. lumpy Sep 2012 #2
Hope they were fired. emilyg Sep 2012 #16
Not illegal in the States. Lasher Sep 2012 #20
It's a felony, isn't it? nt bananas Sep 2012 #21
The law is a bit ambiguous about that Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #31
I hope she wins big. That was just plain nasty of them. Assholes. alfredo Sep 2012 #3
"December 2010" Maybe I am missing something but if this was really so traumatic cstanleytech Sep 2012 #4
In Texas you have a limit and she probably didn't have someone to make the case yet. And a person freshwest Sep 2012 #9
You're right, it is rather odd. davidthegnome Sep 2012 #10
Egg shell rule says take 'em as you get 'em. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #14
? you never know... either way, it was totally fucked up trailmonkee Sep 2012 #11
Oh I agree and the manager should have at the very least have been demoted to cstanleytech Sep 2012 #15
seems like less to do with money than assumptions on the part of the employees trailmonkee Sep 2012 #22
It could be her attorney was trying to settle with Walmart out of court . . . Journeyman Sep 2012 #12
Good point, the article is very lacking on why it took this long to file so that could be one of the cstanleytech Sep 2012 #18
The way the article reads, it seems that she was encouraged by readers on Reddit siligut Sep 2012 #17
filing quickly is not often a good strategy. unblock Sep 2012 #24
She may have been afraid of retaliation from the asshole clerks if she filed immediately. valerief Sep 2012 #40
She can get them back KamaAina Sep 2012 #5
Not anymore, you have to have the whole serial number n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2012 #7
The douchebaggery is trickling down from the Waltons to these employees. muntrv Sep 2012 #6
Her name is "Julia Garcia". This is in Texas. Connect the dots. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #8
Since she used cash - I doubt emilyg Sep 2012 #19
They don't care about the name, they care about the face. Loudestlib Sep 2012 #23
I've been looking for a picture of her. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #26
we know, we know, it's not racism unless it's against Christian Anglos CreekDog Sep 2012 #28
smh frylock Sep 2012 #29
It's San Antonio - about 60 or more percent Hispanic. sammytko Sep 2012 #43
Looked up the location from the court document. sammytko Sep 2012 #44
I hope it's not too snarky to say Simeon Salus Sep 2012 #13
I have three words guaranteed to flip out a Right Winger,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #27
I've never stepped foot in any Walmart businesses SoapBox Sep 2012 #25
+1 sakabatou Sep 2012 #30
Well aren't you special. eShirl Sep 2012 #33
How nice for you. I go emilyg Sep 2012 #42
Why with your command of the English language whistler162 Sep 2012 #46
There is no metallic strip in $100 bills Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #32
Being magnetic means there is some sort of ferrous metal in there somewhere. marble falls Sep 2012 #36
It may contain a miniscule amount of metal Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #41
The true but unspoken irony here...... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #34
I wonder if WalMart will pay her Politicalboi Sep 2012 #35
Sally Brown takes what's coming to her in $10s and $20s...... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #45
The employees were jack arses, but why did she pull out another bill? MatthewStLouis Sep 2012 #37
Probably handed it all at once. tjdee Sep 2012 #38
the second hundred dollar bill thesquanderer Sep 2012 #39
If you work for walmart, you are probably not used to seeing 100$ bills Ash_F Sep 2012 #47
Reason #2847 to not shop at Walmart. progressoid Sep 2012 #48

Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
31. The law is a bit ambiguous about that
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:44 AM
Sep 2012

"Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

"Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service. The United States Secret Service web address is www.secretservice.gov."

cstanleytech

(26,306 posts)
4. "December 2010" Maybe I am missing something but if this was really so traumatic
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:50 PM
Sep 2012

for her why did she wait two years nearly to file a lawsuit?
Just seems, odd.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. In Texas you have a limit and she probably didn't have someone to make the case yet. And a person
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:02 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:42 AM - Edit history (1)

Who is forced to do their shopping in the middle of the night hasn't exactly got the best life schedule, either. It depends on circumstances. She did it within the statutory limit and they are fair game until then. I hope she prevails and the law smites their arrogant, ignorant, grandstanding asses.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
10. You're right, it is rather odd.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:02 AM
Sep 2012

One possible answer is that she didn't have the resources or the connections to pursue any kind of legal action. Not knowing enough about the case, I can't say for sure.

I do know though, as a very socially awkward person... when you are humiliated in public (especially in the manner this woman must have been) it is... harder than most could imagine, to face those who witnessed it, or to risk the same happening again. Perhaps she was a shy person who was more devastated by this event than someone else would be - and even someone who was more secure, even a social butterfly, would find this very humiliating.

cstanleytech

(26,306 posts)
15. Oh I agree and the manager should have at the very least have been demoted to
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:27 AM
Sep 2012

cashier (so as to familiarize themselves better with money) and Walmart should have also atleast offered her an apology for their employees screwup.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
12. It could be her attorney was trying to settle with Walmart out of court . . .
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:10 AM
Sep 2012

and finally determined they weren't going to get satisfaction using that route and so filed suit.

cstanleytech

(26,306 posts)
18. Good point, the article is very lacking on why it took this long to file so that could be one of the
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:28 AM
Sep 2012

reasons.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
17. The way the article reads, it seems that she was encouraged by readers on Reddit
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:27 AM
Sep 2012
"For the record, there was zero reason for them to tear up the bill, even if it was counterfeit. There is no policy in place telling anyone to do this with counterfeit bills, and in fact, because the bills have to be turned over to investigators, the tearing up of the bill would count as destroying evidence. Just wanted to point that out. If the employees actually did what the report says they did, then they were idiots on top of being asshats," said user "this_isnt_happening."


So while she was traumatized, maybe she didn't know she had a case.

unblock

(52,285 posts)
24. filing quickly is not often a good strategy.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:45 AM
Sep 2012

you want to take the time to build a case, gather witnesses and evidence, and assess the damage. especially for emotional damages, this might take time to assess and document.

hypothetically, say 18 months after the incident, a client walks into her workplace, recognizes her, and tells her boss about the incident, and the boss fires her, can't have clients thinking we might have a counterfeiter on staff.

better for that sort of thing to come out before settling with wal-mart.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
40. She may have been afraid of retaliation from the asshole clerks if she filed immediately.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:57 AM
Sep 2012

Maybe she's moved and feels safe enough now to sue.

All the crazy people have all the guns today.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. She can get them back
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

using whichever half is over 50% of the original.

And a hell of a lot more by suing the bastards!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
26. I've been looking for a picture of her.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:28 AM
Sep 2012

Could very well be those idiots figured she didn't LOOK like someone who would have hundred dollar bills on her.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
44. Looked up the location from the court document.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:54 AM
Sep 2012

8500 jones maltsBerger rd. it is in a part of the city where the percentage of hispanic population decreases.

Simeon Salus

(1,144 posts)
13. I hope it's not too snarky to say
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:22 AM
Sep 2012

but if they made a movie about somebody ripping up two $100 bills and put it on YouTube, Republicans might riot...

Seems like we spend a lot more time worshiping the mighty dollar, compared to when I was younger.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
27. I have three words guaranteed to flip out a Right Winger,...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:31 AM
Sep 2012

"It's only money".

Remember when that used to be used to remember what was really important?

They used to say that in muggings/robberies. "It's only money, it's not worth your life".

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
46. Why with your command of the English language
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sep 2012

you would fit well with your prejudged view of people who shop there!

It is "I've never set foot in any Walmart businesses"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
32. There is no metallic strip in $100 bills
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:52 AM
Sep 2012

"The cashier proceeded to rip the $100 bill in half without performing any counterfeit detection tests. The metallic strip in the $100 bill was clearly visible."

It is actually a plastic strip that is very weakly magnetic. Hold it up to the light and look at it with a magnifying glass-- it should read USA 100, then the same upside down, in an alternating pattern.

The watermark on the redesigned notes should be clearly visible. Hold the note up to the light, and on the right side there should be a watermark portrait of Franklin.

There should also be tiny colored fibers in the paper (which is actually a kind of linen), and the 100 in the lower right corner should change color as you tilt the bill.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
41. It may contain a miniscule amount of metal
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:06 AM
Sep 2012

but it is 99.99% plastic (mylar). I would not call that "metallic".

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
34. The true but unspoken irony here......
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:15 AM
Sep 2012

....is that an employee, and even a manager of the largest chain-store in the world, doesn't know what a real $50 or $100 bill looks like. Maybe Walmart should send some of their tight-fisted executives in to train the employees in recognizing the higher denomination bills.

- Apparently they're the only ones who're getting them...........

K&R

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
37. The employees were jack arses, but why did she pull out another bill?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:34 AM
Sep 2012

I'd learn pretty fast after that first one was ripped in half.

I'm not sure I'd agree this warrants a lawsuit either, as much as I hate Wal-of-China-Mart.

tjdee

(18,048 posts)
38. Probably handed it all at once.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:39 AM
Sep 2012

If I were paying for something that cost 40 bucks, I'd hand the cashier two 20 dollar bills at once.....

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
39. the second hundred dollar bill
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:41 AM
Sep 2012

She probably just wanted to pay and get out of there, and was willing to do whatever she thought might work, even if it cost her an extra hundred.

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