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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:14 AM Jun 2019

Stacey Abrams met with film industry executives in Los Angeles to argue against Georgia boycott

Source: The Hill

Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D) said she met with film industry executives to try to dissuade them from boycotting her state in response to its new law that bans abortion about six weeks into pregnancy.

She denounced the legislation, but said she also urged companies to "#StayAndFight."

"We had productive conversations with execs, show runners, actors & more," she tweeted. "If companies #StayAndFight, we can save jobs, build power and most importantly, protect women. While the call to leave resonates for some, we must leverage the time before a final determination to lead."

"Business relies on predictability - too many companies will face growing uncertainty in our healthcare environment," she continued. "This forced pregnancy bill targets women but every Georgian is at risk if we lose doctors, jobs and billions. #StayAndFight"

Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/448110-stacey-abrams-met-with-film-industry-executives-in-los-angeles

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Stacey Abrams met with film industry executives in Los Angeles to argue against Georgia boycott (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2019 OP
I don't see how staying will help... hlthe2b Jun 2019 #1
Seems this is more of a fight for the voters of Georgia... Chakaconcarne Jun 2019 #2
What's the end game? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #16
This was not a good move for her. lark Jun 2019 #3
Stay and prevent half your workforce from accessing reproductive health care Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #4
North Carolina still might have a bathroom law without a Boycott MattP Jun 2019 #5
That's just what I was thinking of: the NC boycott More_Cowbell Jun 2019 #9
Sorry Stacey! SCVDem Jun 2019 #6
What leverage? MGKrebs Jun 2019 #7
I would like to know more about #stay and fight to make an enlightened comment. CTyankee Jun 2019 #8
This was misguided. Aristus Jun 2019 #10
So what about the small shop or restaurant owner who employs people to work for them when CTyankee Jun 2019 #11
The whole issue is about the law of unintended consequences. Aristus Jun 2019 #13
Labor unions have faced this dilemma many times. They often have "strike funds" to help workers CTyankee Jun 2019 #15
she's talking to the wrong people azureblue Jun 2019 #22
The only thing these SOBs understand is money. BlueIdaho Jun 2019 #12
Yeah, good luck with that stacey... Maxheader Jun 2019 #14
Stacey Abrams JGug1 Jun 2019 #17
I've only done a cursory search of the number Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #18
I dont agree with her meeting RT Atlanta Jun 2019 #19
Smart move on her part. She obviously has an eye on a statewide races GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2019 #21
Wow, I guess it's Abrams' time under the DU bus BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #23

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
1. I don't see how staying will help...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jun 2019

I understand Abrams' concerns, but what good is a good economy for GA when half its population is rendered not only unequal but dispensable.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
16. What's the end game?
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jun 2019

Let's say everything she wants comes through. Hollywood productions all return and go on as if nothing has changed. Does she really think Georgia voters, especially the voters that did not vote for her last time, will first off even register what she did, and second attribute any bump in the economy to her? Or do you think that Brian Kemp will use that stat for himself? And propel that propaganda through Fox News and RW radio which dominates the airwaves?

I know that there will be casualties in the local film workers in that State, if even temporarily, but wouldn't the smart political move be to wait until before the next election with a promise from the film industry in her back pocket, to return as soon as the draconian abortion laws are reversed, which she will do?

I get the desire to not look at things politically as the first thing. How honourable it is to always go high when they go lo, even if you get zero credit. Even if you lose next time too and you've helped save Kemp's job. Its the bleeding heart liberal's lot in life. That at least we can sleep at night......as the country burns around you.

Sorry but we have to fight smart. This is a war.

lark

(23,099 posts)
3. This was not a good move for her.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jun 2019

I get she's loyal to her state and wants more earning opportunities - but at the cost of women's lives? I don't think so.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
4. Stay and prevent half your workforce from accessing reproductive health care
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:08 AM
Jun 2019

Or go and show how bad legislation has consequences?

Maybe the legislature should have thought through who they would offend. But forcing births onto their poor women is more important to them. Too bad, so sad, live with your misogynist decisions that will make your entire state poorer.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
6. Sorry Stacey!
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jun 2019

The entertainment industry is too diverse to accept divisive and controlling legislation.

Why would they grant tacit approval by keeping a business as usual approach?

Change the mindset or all you will have are peanuts.

It is Georgia's choice after all.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
7. What leverage?
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jun 2019

The goal is to change the law. Without consequences they won't change the law, unless we change the Reps. What is more likely to make that happen, staying or leaving?
I hate it (some of my customers are in the movie biz), but if they didn't listen to "Hollywood" prior to this, they aren't going to listen to "Hollywood" now.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. I would like to know more about #stay and fight to make an enlightened comment.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jun 2019

I realize Abrams wants to save jobs for her state. Some of the jobs the state would lose might be those of poorer women who are at risk of losing their reproductive rights, in addition to their jobs.
In general, labor strikes have also had the unwanted effect of leaving striking workers without a paycheck, which they can ill afford.

So this troubles me greatly.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
10. This was misguided.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jun 2019

The assholes who promulgated this law will never, ever listen to reason. They will only listen to the pain caused by lost state revenue.

Make 'em repeal the law or make 'em suffer.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. So what about the small shop or restaurant owner who employs people to work for them when
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jun 2019

the film's crews arrive to shoot a film in their area? This is an economic argument that ultimately hurts the less powerful men and women who are dependent on that income. The pain you talk about is their pain too. It is the law of unintended consequences...

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
13. The whole issue is about the law of unintended consequences.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jun 2019

This can be remedied by a petition, or a letter-writing campaign, or when all is said and done, at the ballot-box. "Anti-Choice Republicans Are Driving Away Important Sources Of State Revenue!" Have a Democrat campaign on that platform. If they succeed, the business will come back. If they get voted down, it means voting Georgians were willing to accept financial loss as a trade-off for intrusive government policy.

The power is in the hands of the Georgia electorate. Let's see what they do with it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Labor unions have faced this dilemma many times. They often have "strike funds" to help workers
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jun 2019

who would lose their houses or worse from not having sufficient income for their basic needs.

You are absolutely correct about the buck stopping at the Georgia electorate. I worry in the meantime about the poor women who will suffer.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
22. she's talking to the wrong people
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jun 2019

She should be talking to the people who can repeal this law. The movie and TV business didn't cause this mess - the Georgia bigots did. They should be the ones fixing this.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. The only thing these SOBs understand is money.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:21 PM
Jun 2019

In this case, the movie industry moving out of Georgia and the loss of revenue makes clear the stupidity of their theocracy.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
14. Yeah, good luck with that stacey...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jun 2019


Winger religious freaks show no inclination to be flexible on abortion...

JGug1

(320 posts)
17. Stacey Abrams
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jun 2019

Bullshit. The people of Georgia have elected these cretins who passed that bill. Yeah, those who oppose the bill in Georgia will suffer too. There are casualties in war.
Next election vote the bastards out.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
18. I've only done a cursory search of the number
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jun 2019

of Georgians who agree with Stay and Fight, it seems to be a lot of people and growing. I appreciate the voices calling for non-Georgians to listen to them instead of pushing for boycott from the outside. I've read of 2 production companies that decided to stay, J.J. Abrams and Jordan Peele, and donate to the ACLU of Georgia and Fair Fight Georgia, a voting rights group founded by Abrams.

Stay tuned.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
19. I dont agree with her meeting
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jun 2019

To some extent, I see her being in a 'hard place' and wanting to fight for the jobs of Georgians.

On the other hand, by being pro-choice I would like to see her doing whatever she can to help spearhead overturning the law. She really needs to help pin this stupid law on all the males (and their enablers) that rammed this law through in GA.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Smart move on her part. She obviously has an eye on a statewide races
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jun 2019

In her future.

On top of that, people who work in the entertainment industry are among the most liberal there are. They would be the ones harmed.

I don’t think it will sway the industry so the boycott happens and she has removed a target from herself in a statewide campaign.

I don’t think she fears any challenge from the left in a primary.

Like I said, I might not necessarily agree, but it is a shrewd political move on her part.

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