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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:30 AM

Trump warns Iran of 'obliteration like you've never seen before'

Source: Politico


By MARTIN MATISHAK 06/23/2019 09:04 AM EDT

President Donald Trump warned the United States may launch a devastating military attack on Iran unless it comes to the negotiating table and drops its bid to develop nuclear weapons.

“I'm not looking for war and if there is, it'll be obliteration like you've never seen before. But I'm not looking to do that. But you can't have a nuclear weapon. You want to talk? Good. Otherwise you can have a bad economy for the next three years,” Trump said during an interview with NBC’s “Meet The Press“ airing Sunday.

The president said he’d be willing to sit down with Iranian officials without any pre-conditions.

The comments, made during an interview taped Friday, came the same day Trump confirmed on Twitter that he called off a retaliatory strike on Iran at the last minute Thursday night. He said he decided that the potential cost of human lives was “not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone.”


Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/trump-obliteration-iran-nuclear-weapons-pursuit-1376744




Trump: No preconditions on talks with Iran

BY ZACK BUDRYK - 06/23/19 09:01 AM EDT

President Trump in an interview broadcast Sunday expressed willingness to speak with Iranian officials without preconditions.

“I'm not looking for war and if there is, it'll be obliteration like you've never seen before. But I'm not looking to do that. But you can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump told NBC’s Chuck Todd on "Meet the Press."

Asked if this would include preconditions, Trump said “not as far as I'm concerned. No preconditions.”




In the same interview, Trump called his national security advisor John Bolton “absolutely a hawk” and said he wanted “hawks” and “doves” equally represented in his administration.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449898-trump-no-preconditions-on-talks-with-iran

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Reply Trump warns Iran of 'obliteration like you've never seen before' (Original post)
DonViejo Jun 2019 OP
ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #1
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2019 #10
DinahMoeHum Jun 2019 #2
duforsure Jun 2019 #3
pazzyanne Jun 2019 #4
CrispyQ Jun 2019 #13
pangaia Jun 2019 #17
CrispyQ Jun 2019 #18
pangaia Jun 2019 #19
CrispyQ Jun 2019 #21
pangaia Jun 2019 #22
dalton99a Jun 2019 #5
pazzyanne Jun 2019 #23
Guilded Lilly Jun 2019 #6
LuvNewcastle Jun 2019 #7
DallasNE Jun 2019 #8
Penn Voter Jun 2019 #9
Kali Jun 2019 #45
McKim Jun 2019 #11
JohnnyRingo Jun 2019 #12
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #14
Zambero Jun 2019 #15
Achilleaze Jun 2019 #16
madashelltoo Jun 2019 #20
Skittles Jun 2019 #24
trof Jun 2019 #25
Skittles Jun 2019 #26
trof Jun 2019 #27
Skittles Jun 2019 #30
trof Jun 2019 #32
Skittles Jun 2019 #33
trof Jun 2019 #35
Skittles Jun 2019 #36
trof Jun 2019 #37
Skittles Jun 2019 #40
mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #31
trof Jun 2019 #28
soryang Jun 2019 #29
DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #34
smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #38
friend of m and j Jun 2019 #39
SKKY Jun 2019 #41
WhoWoodaKnew Jun 2019 #42
LuckyLib Jun 2019 #43
Vinca Jun 2019 #44
Nitram Jun 2019 #46

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:35 AM

1. How ignorant Trump is.....

You do not year up a treaty, threaten to destroy a country, then demand they negotiate with you.

That is not diplomacy. That is outright threats of war that has no happy outcomes.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:39 AM

10. Didn't the treaty that Trump unilaterally abrogated keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons?

It sounds like he's in his "break it, fix it (kinda), then take sole credit for the fix" mode.

We cannot get this narcissistic sociopath out of office soon enough.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:40 AM

2. Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:52 AM

3. Just like he did with NK and Kim

Claiming stuff trying to look important and powerful in his mind, but really is weak and powerless. He's a bs'er and blowhard that's so insecure and impotent now he has to over and over lie and claim everyone should cower down to his demands. Putin told him to not do it, so you can bet this is just an act trying to look good for his base, but makes him look ever more ignorant of foreign policies, just like he's done nothing with NK and Kim. Because that's what putin wanted.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:02 AM

4. "The president said he'd be willing to sit down with Iranian officials without any pre-conditions."

tRump always has pre-conditions - Do it my way or I will punish you! He does not negotiate, he dictates. There is no doubt where he is taking this country and with the permission of 30 to 40 percent of US voters.

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Response to pazzyanne (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:13 AM

13. 40%


Fintan O’Toole: Trial runs for fascism are in full flow
Babies in cages were no ‘mistake’ by Trump but test-marketing for barbarism
Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 05:00

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-trial-runs-for-fascism-are-in-full-flow-1.3543375

snip...

One of the basic tools of fascism is the rigging of elections – we’ve seen that trialled in the election of Trump, in the Brexit referendum and (less successfully) in the French presidential elections. Another is the generation of tribal identities, the division of society into mutually exclusive polarities. Fascism does not need a majority – it typically comes to power with about 40 per cent support and then uses control and intimidation to consolidate that power. So it doesn’t matter if most people hate you, as long as your 40 per cent is fanatically committed. That’s been tested out too. And fascism of course needs a propaganda machine so effective that it creates for its followers a universe of “alternative facts” impervious to unwanted realities. Again, the testing for this is very far advanced.


I'd say his 40% are definitely fanatically committed.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:41 PM

17. An then there is the thing in Oregon

where those RW assholes are "defending" the repub state reps who ran to Idaho and the repub reps are themselves threatening violence!

Can;t find the story right now..

Coming to a corner near you...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:52 PM

18. Yeah, I saw that story.

As a country, except for the Civil War, I don't know if we've ever been as divided. My husband has maintained that the 60s were worse, but he's starting to change his mind as see realizes just how right wing batshit the GOP has gone.

I still think the biggest mistake the dems/left made was ignoring hate radio for almost four decades. They still do. Hate radio is why we have Americans wearing tee shirts that read "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat."

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:57 PM

19. This is already much worse than the 60s, if only because

of the violent turn to a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP.

That was NOT going to happen in the 60s.

Also, because at present, almost NOBODY is paying attention to what is happening !!!!
I blame it on 'cell phones.'

I first became 'politically aware,' if I can actually call it that, WHEN RAYGUN was elected.


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Response to pangaia (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 01:17 PM

21. Social media is a problem, too.

There was an interesting article about the right wing echo chamber that the left doesn't have. It stated that when leftist conspiracy stories get started, they get discussed in the main stream media & debunked, but the right wing conspiracy stories just echo around in their rw chamber & gain strength among those who read/listen to it. When you hear some of their shit, like HRC was running a pedophilia ring out of the basement of a pizza shop, or George Soros is paying protesters, you understand why the MSM doesn't touch it. I have a rwnj cousin & it's scary what he believes. And his hate for "libs" is shocking & permeates a lot of his social media. I unfriended him quite some time ago.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 01:26 PM

22. My cell phone comment was not totally serious

perhaps a metaphor.

as in META FOR ---

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:11 AM

5. Yeah, fire and fury like the world has never seen

What a joke

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:25 PM

23. If it happens, it will be no joke!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:22 AM

6. This male is stupid to the bone.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:31 AM

7. Give up your nukes or we're gonna nuke ya.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:33 AM

8. Only A Dope Talks Like This

You don't go to war in that part of the world in July. It would be insane to do that in 110 degree weather. Ground operations are very limited.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:35 AM

9. Walk Loudly and Carry a Small Stick n/t

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Response to Penn Voter (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:02 AM

45. ...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:45 AM

11. Is This Our Only Gaslighting Event for the Day?

Is this our only gaslighting event for the day? It’s only 9:30 and he talks like this! Sadly our daughter is talking about immigrating to New Zealand if Trump is “re-elected”.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:55 AM

12. Because Iran has never been obliterated before...

...it would indeed be an obliteration like they've never seen before.

And The Donald would be great like he's never been before.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:33 AM

14. Sounds just like the threat he made against North Korea.

And then he and Kim fell in love and Trump folded like a cheap lawn chair. We can expect Khamenei and Ruhani to be Spanky's new BFFs before long.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:07 PM

15. Another Reverse-Teddy

Trump shouts loudly and carries a tiny stick. Despite "Fire and Fury" bluster the outcome was lovey-dovey Valentines to and from Kim, along with an unconditional cessation of U.S. / South Korea military exercises, lack of progress on a no-nukes deal notwithstanding. Venezuela was a bluff. And now this. The pattern of behavior in in place, and his credibility is a global ZERO to friends and foes alike.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:31 PM

16. "It will be the bigliest obliteration ever from a five-time republican draft dodger." - Dirty Donny

republican draft dodgers sure can talk trash.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:59 PM

20. Mango talks to everyone

Like he’s their dad. “If you don’t stop it, you’re going to get the worse whipping of your life!” Really? He honestly believes everyone is afraid of him. All he’s doing is risking the lives of others.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:48 PM

24. please, please make this national nightmare end

ENOUGH ALREADY

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Response to Skittles (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:14 PM

25. Hey Skittles.



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Response to trof (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:22 PM

26. WASSUP FLYBOY?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:25 PM

27. Jes' easin' along.

Keepin' an even strain.

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Response to trof (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:29 PM

30. nice

I finally feel like retirement is on the radar....I am still working (gawd, 76 hours last week) but increasingly I know that I am at a point where I could call it a day anytime.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:35 PM

32. 76 hours? Whew.

Hope you're not on the loading dock.

This marks my 20th year of joblessness.
I still like it.

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Response to trof (Reply #32)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:44 PM

33. yeah

I'm on a floater shift and pick up the slack as needed from "front end" and "back end" nights - due to an unfortunate set of circumstances, I was needed on both ends (12 hour shifts).....I'm at a desk but even that can be grueling if you cannot get up and move around

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Response to Skittles (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:53 PM

35. I see you wearing a green eyeshade with a pencil behind your ear.

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Response to trof (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:41 PM

36. heh

it's a pen

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Response to Skittles (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:47 PM

37. Felt tip, ball point, fountain, or quill?

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Response to trof (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:01 PM

40. Texas State Fair ball point pen

YEE HAW

I have a bunch of them and like to send them to Texas soldiers in Afghanistan

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Response to Skittles (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:30 PM

31. It really is fucking ridiculous, isn't it? Not sure how much more of this nonsense my liver can take

I really wish I was kidding

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:27 PM

28. Well, I guess once you've been obliterated you wouldn't be around for the next one.

Makes some kind of weird sense.
Goofy

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:28 PM

29. We have no preconditions to your unconditional surrender

“As a Christian, I certainly believe that’s possible,” Mr. Pompeo said, noting with pride “the work that our administration’s done, to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains. I am confident that the Lord is at work here.”

One month after starting his job in April 2018, Mr. Pompeo worked with Mr. Trump to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal. And he went much further: He announced 12 demands that Iran would have to meet before the United States considered lifting renewed sanctions. Mr. Pompeo has a grand goal of undermining what he calls Iran’s “expansionist foreign policy” — a mission that Mr. Trump never mentions. Iranian leaders see meeting the 12 demands as tantamount to regime suicide, analysts say.

“Most of them are unacceptable to the Iranians,” said R. Nicholas Burns, the top career State Department official under President George W. Bush. “As a result, we’ve had zero contact with them and no ability to influence their behavior.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/22/world/middleeast/trump-pompeo-iran.html

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:50 PM

34. Trump says a lot of stuff, most of it nonsense

or idiotic.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:59 PM

38. Hmm. Seems to me that we had a nuclear deal in place with Iran and

some fat assed orange dipshit withdrew from it. Or did I dream that?

Has there ever been a more inept person in this office in the history of our nation?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:46 PM

39. I don't get too excited seeing him make his threats...

because I am relatively sure he will back down and then brag that he saved 150 lives.

My first thought was who wrote his little speech and taught him 2 new big words. I am not sure anyone is left in WH who could spell "proportionate" and "obliterate".

I decided it must have been Ivanka. Trump would not have had the patience to practice pronouncing those big words probably 50 times for anyone but Ivanka. If you listen very closely he is pronouncing "proportionate" like a 5th grader reading from a book and struggling with that new big word.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:05 PM

41. The only thing DT has obliterated, apart from 6 businesses...

...is Melania’s self esteem.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:17 PM

42. He's an idiot.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

43. "like you've never seen before" -- one of his endless loop of meaningless phrases

from his pea brain and pathetically limited vocabulary. So sick of it all.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 05:41 AM

44. His threats amount to little more than a bad script. You'd think even the cult would see that.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 03:30 PM

46. The whole world is on top Trump now. He's a bully who backs down when confronted.

He bluffs, he creates phoney crises and then says he's solved them. He's got a loud mouth and no stick.

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