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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:39 PM Jul 2019

Congress quietly removes security clearance process from White House and transfers it to the Pentago

Source: Raw Story

Published 4 hours ago

on July 25, 2019
By David Cay Johnston, DC Report @ Raw Story

Congress Forced Move After Putin’s Friend in the Oval Office Interfered in Clearance Process for Jared and Ivanka

The Trump Administration, after making a mess of security clearances for federal workers and contractors, is about to hand off to the Pentagon the biggest change in the clearance system in a half-century.

Concern about the security clearance system is not new, but the Government Accountability Office documents serious deterioration since Trump took office. The GAO is the investigative arm of Congress.

The Trump Administration did such a poor job with security clearances that in 2018 the GAO put the entire security clearance system on its High-Risk List.

That’s not surprising given Donald Trump’s continual attacks on our national intelligence agencies as he praises the integrity of Vladimir Putin.


Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/congress-quietly-removes-security-clearance-process-from-white-house-and-transfers-it-to-the-pentagon/

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Congress quietly removes security clearance process from White House and transfers it to the Pentago (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2019 OP
Now That's Interesting Me. Jul 2019 #1
Good iluvtennis Jul 2019 #2
Gawd, I hope they can revoke clearances pandr32 Jul 2019 #3
Maybe they can revoke Fat Donnie's security clearance. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2019 #18
Agreed! pandr32 Jul 2019 #23
"Fat Donnie" doesn't have, nor does he need, a security clearance. Totally Tunsie Jul 2019 #27
That's a little disturbing. You can run for president without having to have LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2019 #28
I've always found this VERY disturbing and quite unbelievable Totally Tunsie Jul 2019 #29
Good move. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #4
When is Kushner and his wife's clearances getting revoked. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #5
For this administration it's a good thing, but do we really want Merlot Jul 2019 #6
The military takes orders. tetedur Jul 2019 #16
You should read the oaths as not what you think DavidCayJohnston Jul 2019 #30
Typically incomplete, misleading raw story piece. onenote Jul 2019 #7
Thanks. Too bad we are a reverb for raw (non) story. erronis Jul 2019 #11
Thank you. Delmette2.0 Jul 2019 #12
How does that square with what Warner sponsored? JudyM Jul 2019 #24
both are true, the law is more effective than an executive order IronLionZion Jul 2019 #26
Wow, that last paragraph is pointed. It's as if I wrote it. ffr Jul 2019 #8
But Jared needs it to sell secrets to their pals. keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #9
Take away the keys for christs sake randr Jul 2019 #10
Not sure this is accurate. There are lots of different clearances and some aren't DoD. erronis Jul 2019 #13
Really? You want to give up civilian control? Odoreida Jul 2019 #14
When a new commander-in-chief wants it back, the Pentagon & congress cooperate. Right now, military ancianita Jul 2019 #19
Now that I think of it, I take back what I said. Because this is just for show and means nothing. Odoreida Jul 2019 #21
He relieves them of command. Obama did it over a hundred times. ancianita Jul 2019 #22
SecDef is a civilian. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #25
This Has Been a National Security Nightmare dlk Jul 2019 #15
WATCH! now all of the security clearance problems including Jared, Ivanka and her brothers..... usaf-vet Jul 2019 #17
Democrats are spineless!!11 mcar Jul 2019 #20
18. Maybe they can revoke Fat Donnie's security clearance.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 06:13 PM
Jul 2019

It's not like he ever uses it.







"Trump security" is an oxymoron, considering how insecure IQ45 is.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
27. "Fat Donnie" doesn't have, nor does he need, a security clearance.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jul 2019

A SC is also not required for the VP, members of Congress or the Supreme Court.

https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2016/11/clearances-presidential/


“Security clearances are not mandated for the President, Vice President, Members of Congress, Supreme Court Justices, or other constitutional officers,” a recent Congressional Research Service report explains. “The criteria for election or appointment to these positions are specified in the U.S. Constitution, and except by constitutional amendment, no additional criteria (e.g., holding a security clearance) may be required.”
28. That's a little disturbing. You can run for president without having to have
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jul 2019

anyone look at your background. When I was in the Air Force it took forever to fill out the paperwork so I could have a background investigation for a Top Secret clearance. Of course, we were only handling nuclear devices, so that's different.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
29. I've always found this VERY disturbing and quite unbelievable
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:34 PM
Jul 2019

but it's unfortunately true, especially with the current administration.

Having been through the process myself, it seems unfathomable that our nation's top officers aren't subject to this scrutiny. As an "innocent" in my early 20's, it took 3+ months sitting in "Deep Freeze" waiting for my Secret clearance to come through, followed by another similar period as I was being cleared for the higher Secret-Special Access, while working for McDonnell-Douglas in CA. Of course, at that rate and if done properly, it would probably take years before Chump + Company received their rejections for same.

DavidCayJohnston

(17 posts)
30. You should read the oaths as not what you think
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jul 2019

Grunts and sailors take an oath to follow presidential orders and to defend our Constitution.

Officers take an oath ONLY to uphold our Constitution.

onenote

(42,704 posts)
7. Typically incomplete, misleading raw story piece.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jul 2019

Trump signed an executive order transferring the security clearance process to the Pentagon last April.

https://www.fedscoop.com/security-clearances-transfer-executive-order/

erronis

(15,275 posts)
11. Thanks. Too bad we are a reverb for raw (non) story.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

I'd really like a way to up/down vote articles/posts based on reality.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
24. How does that square with what Warner sponsored?
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jul 2019

(Snip from the OP article)

The law was sponsored by Senator Mark Warner (D-Va.), vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The changes are in Section 901 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018. It requires the Secretary of Defense to take charge of security clearance investigations by October 1, 2020, the first day of the 2021 budget year. All personnel background and security investigations will be handled by the Defense Department’s Consolidated Adjudication Facility.


IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
26. both are true, the law is more effective than an executive order
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jul 2019

Trump signed both an executive order and the National Defense Authorization Act.

Separately from that, Warner has also sponsored other bills to strengthen the clearance process. Dems might have to take the Senate and white house for those bills to become law.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
8. Wow, that last paragraph is pointed. It's as if I wrote it.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jul 2019

But then, any of us could have written it, because it's the truth. Our government is under siege by the KGOP.

erronis

(15,275 posts)
13. Not sure this is accurate. There are lots of different clearances and some aren't DoD.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 05:02 PM
Jul 2019

The CIA, NSA, DOE, State and many other agencies/fiefdoms have their own set of clearances.

Let alone need-to-know, SCIF, eyes-only, read-this-and-die.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
19. When a new commander-in-chief wants it back, the Pentagon & congress cooperate. Right now, military
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 06:45 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Thu Jul 25, 2019, 11:25 PM - Edit history (1)

are the smartest officials under executive leadership.

Congress represents The People, and this move, given the subpoenas and SDNY investigations, might be needed for proper, uncompromised civilian branch of government.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
21. Now that I think of it, I take back what I said. Because this is just for show and means nothing.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jul 2019

Trump is still Commander-in-Chief and he can summarily fire any of them who do not obey him in this or any other matter.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
22. He relieves them of command. Obama did it over a hundred times.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jul 2019

Here's what the military thinks of Trump. Officers tend to not like him.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
17. WATCH! now all of the security clearance problems including Jared, Ivanka and her brothers.....
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jul 2019

.... will NOW be blamed on the Pentagon.

A typical Trump deflection.

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