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BumRushDaShow

(129,091 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 06:43 PM Aug 2019

U.S. preparing to withdraw thousands of troops from Afghanistan in initial deal with Taliban

Source: Washington Post

The Trump administration is preparing to withdraw thousands of troops from Afghanistan in exchange for concessions from the Taliban, including a cease-fire and a renunciation of al-Qaeda, as part of an initial deal to end the nearly 18-year-old war, U.S. officials say. The agreement, which would require the Taliban to begin negotiating a larger peace deal directly with the Afghan government, could cut the number of American troops in the country from roughly 14,000 to between 8,000 and 9,000, the officials said. That number would be nearly the same as when Donald Trump took office.

The plan has taken shape after months of negotiations between the Taliban and Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-born American diplomat who was appointed by the Trump administration last year to jump-start talks. Officials said an agreement could be finalized ahead of the Afghan presidential election in September, though they cautioned that Taliban leaders could delay and that significant challenges remain.

The proposal is likely to be viewed skeptically by some U.S. and Afghan officials who question the Taliban’s honesty and wonder how the United States can verify whether Taliban leaders are following through. But if approved, it would be one of the most significant steps toward ending the war, a goal that increasingly has bipartisan support.

“I would say that they are 80 or 90 percent of the way there,” said one official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details of the emerging deal. “But there is still a long way to go on that last 10 or 20 percent.” A Taliban spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahid, declined to comment about the likelihood of an initial agreement. In a brief telephone interview Thursday, he said he did not know when talks would resume. “We are hopeful,” he said. “Things look promising that there will be a breakthrough. We hope there won’t be any obstacle, but it also depends on the seriousness of the Americans.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-preparing-to-withdraw-thousands-of-troops-from-afghanistan-in-initial-deal-with-taliban/2019/08/01/01e97126-b3ac-11e9-8f6c-7828e68cb15f_story.html

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U.S. preparing to withdraw thousands of troops from Afghanistan in initial deal with Taliban (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 OP
taliban will never honor any long term deal, just long enough for us to clear out nt msongs Aug 2019 #1
Basically. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #2
Exactly atreides1 Aug 2019 #10
Yep sakabatou Aug 2019 #13
Yet another empire is forced out of Afghanistan DavidDvorkin Aug 2019 #3
This basically kicks Afghan women and the secular to the curb. harumph Aug 2019 #4
All of the American lives, christx30 Aug 2019 #8
How long do we stay? former9thward Aug 2019 #11
tRUMP doesn't give a shit about our troops. BUT bluestarone Aug 2019 #5
T-r-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-s-t me! keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #6
He may not have served in Vietnam, but he seems to be copying the ending pretty closely htuttle Aug 2019 #7
What's the figure now.. over a trillion spent on this crap? Astraea Aug 2019 #9
How long do you want to stay? former9thward Aug 2019 #12
Whatever happened to Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #14
Just how long are we supposed to stay in Afghanistan? Jake Stern Aug 2019 #15

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
10. Exactly
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:00 AM
Aug 2019

And when the withdrawal of all Western troops has been achieved the Taliban, which likely has already infiltrated the Afghan government, will once again take over and the world will see the reemergence of both Al-Qaeda and ISIL.

The Taliban will receive support from the same countries that supported them before 9/11...and possibly Russia and China!

Besides under Islamic belief...an agreement with unbelievers means less then nothing!!!!

harumph

(1,900 posts)
4. This basically kicks Afghan women and the secular to the curb.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:06 PM
Aug 2019

Taliban can't be trusted - it's a bullshit deal. Just like all of T's deals.
Shitty - shitty - deal.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
8. All of the American lives,
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:54 PM
Aug 2019

the trillions that have been spent in the last 18 years, what do we have to gain by spending more? How long and how much money should we spend to fix what the last 18 years couldn’t fix? Let the Afghanis spend their own money and lives to defeat the Taliban, if its what they want. If the legitimate government isn’t strong enough to stop them, the US being there will never work in the long term.
This is why a one world government would never work. Too many people are stuck in backwards cultures that don’t recognize equality. Their cultures are stuck in the 5th century. And you can’t force it. It’s just not possible. No matter how much money you throw at it.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
5. tRUMP doesn't give a shit about our troops. BUT
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:22 PM
Aug 2019

I believe he would use them to get votes in 2020! If he does bring home troops it's because he thinks more people will vote for him and THAT'S the only reason!

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
7. He may not have served in Vietnam, but he seems to be copying the ending pretty closely
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:41 PM
Aug 2019


Playing the part of the Hmong this time are the Hazaras. And all of the women.

Astraea

(468 posts)
9. What's the figure now.. over a trillion spent on this crap?
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:30 AM
Aug 2019

And now we're making deals with the enemy.

Un-fucking-believable.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
15. Just how long are we supposed to stay in Afghanistan?
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:22 AM
Aug 2019

How many more lives and how much more money do we have to sink into that Central Asian sandbox before it becomes apparent that the only options are to tuck tail and leave like the Soviets or to get a Nixonian "peace with honor" and withdraw with some semblance of dignity?

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