West Virginia Poll: If Manchin gets in, right now he would beat Justice
Source: West Virginia Metro News
CHARLESTON, W.Va. If Senator Joe Manchin were to enter the race for governor, right now he would beat incumbent Gov. Jim Justice, according to the latest version of the MetroNews Dominion Post West Virginia Poll.
In a theoretical head-to-head matchup, 49 percent of respondents said they would vote for Manchin while 39 percent said they would vote for Justice. The final 12 percent said they are not sure.
Manchin, a Democrat, has said he will announce after Labor Day whether he intends to run for a return to the Governors Office.
Manchin was a big supporter of Justice, who was elected as a Democrat before switching parties. But in recent months, Manchin has been publicly critical of Justices work habits as governor.
Read more: http://wvmetronews.com/2019/08/30/west-virginia-poll-if-manchin-gets-in-right-now-he-would-beat-justice/
If he runs for VW-GOV, that'll likely mean we'll need another Senate win elsewhere to take control.
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)cloudythescribbler
(2,586 posts)I am not knowledgeable of political facts on the ground in WV (never having been there) but it seems to me that UNLESS another Democrat who is at least as good/not more GOPish can be elected senator there, then the Dems need that seat
If he votes for a Dem majority leader to replace McConnell, then he is better than the "best" Republican.
By the same measure, however, in the MANY areas represented by Democrats where more progressive Democrats COULD well be elected, we SHOULD primary them and oppose the DNC's efforts to crush any ability of autonomous progressive national mobilization within the Party. In my district (Neal's in MA), DEFINITELY a more progressive Democrat can be elected -- one who would CUT the military budget rather than justify its ballooning on the grounds of jobs in the district. The same goes, I think for Sen Gillibrand in NY and LOTS of other Democrats in Congress. There is no substitute for doing the work on the ground to get a constituency to the point of being willing to support a more progressive candidate in largely "red" areas, but in the meantime, Dems need to back 'the best we can get' even if that isn't exactly what progressive Democrats would like
Polybius
(15,421 posts)So it'll be another Democrat. The replacement will be a Democrat, and certainly can't be any worse.
SharonAnn
(13,775 posts)Even if hes not your kind of Dem or mine, it adds. A count to win the Dem majority.
JI7
(89,250 posts)in2herbs
(2,945 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)what comes up for votes and control committeess and investigations.
it's bs to claim no difference
Anything less than 100% party-line support might as well be a Republican!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)?w=768
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)He shouldn't have voted to confirm Kavanaugh let him run for governor.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)That doesn't change the math. Be happy with what you've got. When we LOSE a Democrat and they GAIN a Republican... that's a net loss of TWO for our side. I'm happy with this bird in the hand.
One day, the Manchin haters will regret his being replaced with a REPUBLICAN senator. There will come a time when all we need is just ONE MORE Democrat to gain the majority and control the Senate.
If I had to choose between him and a Republican who actually caucuses with the GOP... I'll choose Manchin! We're lucky to have him!
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Ford's sister-in-law: Manchin and Collins created an 'alternate reality' to support Kavanaugh
Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, and Collins, a Republican from Maine, said they believed Ford when she said she had been sexually assaulted but that they didn't think there was corroboration to prove it was Kavanaugh.
"I think it's their way to sort of get out of this difficult bind that she is believable and that this type of behavior is completely unacceptable. There would be no way to make it acceptable. So I think they are diverting away from the main issue and trying to create an alternative reality, really," Deborah Peters said on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."
(Snip)
Peters said she thought the senators' logic was a way to divert away from the main issue.
"I think they're saying -- I think they're saying, gee, she looks credible, but we can't really believe that the man we like would do this," Peters said. "So, therefore, it's not valid, you know, it's not valid that it was him, even though that type of memory does not get mistaken, does not go away."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/05/politics/christine-blasey-ford-manchin-collins-cnntv/index.html
Some things go beyond politics for me.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)The Democratic coalition is very diverse from an ideological perspective. Manchin is to the right of me, but I would still would be happy for him to hold his seat as a dem.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)The latter is what we'll get if he's replaced by a Republican.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)We can't afford to lose any Senators (Manchin is still better than what a Russiapublican from WV would be).
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)If it means the difference between Moscow Mitch and Chuck Schumer at the helm of the Senate, I would hope we would all agree that it is worth having Manchin in WV.
sandensea
(21,635 posts)He's nothing but a corrupt, incompetent Jim Crower.
(with apologies to Jackie Gleason)
appalachiablue
(41,133 posts)WV News, July 2019. Smith, who was born in Charleston but was raised in Texas, graduated from Harvard and went on to study at the London School of Economics and Political Science.
For the past six years Smith served as the executive director of the West Virginia Healthy Kids and Families Coalition where he oversaw anti-poverty initiatives, community improvement projects and efforts to expand health care coverage for children and families...
More, https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/stephen-smith-populist-candidate-hopes-to-challenge-republican-candidate-in/article_7f346c8f-b9f3-5a2e-bfd9-289440c1acaf.html
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)State Legislatures are where we deal with gerrymandering, since the Supremes have opted for "state's rights", or legal discrimination, rather than what is fair.
If he were governor, could he help control the blatant pro-republican gerrymandering that has occurred?
If the tsunami is as big as we hope, why can't down ballot offices be won by Dems, too.
Why can't the democrats come up with an acceptable substitute for Manchin, especially if it is for the 2020 election, when hopefully every turd hater will come out to vote? Could the state legislature become Dem?
That would be solving three problems at once. We need to go all in...
Just askin'.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Trump is +16 in West Virginia: 54:38
Manchin is the only state level elected Democrat in the state (afaik)
No chance the state legislature becomes Dem in 2020
West Virginia's other senator (a Rep) is 62:25 (+37)
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)So we need Manchin as a dino...
If WV stays this red, and IF/AFTER Manchin is re-elected, it's time for a boycott. Yes, some will be negatively affected (they always are), but the only way the repubs learn is through their pocketbooks.
I know that is simplistic...
pstokely
(10,528 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:57 AM - Edit history (1)
or would he only resign if he won? and would he appoint his replacement at least temporally?