Trump reportedly worked with 2 'off the books' lawyers to pressure Ukraine for damaging information

[sandensea]

Source: Insider

Fox News' Chris Wallace reported Sunday morning that President Donald Trump has worked with two personal lawyers, in addition to former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, to pressure Ukrainian officials.

Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing are two former federal prosecutors who are now best-known for their pro-Trump media appearances. The husband and wife duo run a law firm in Washington, D.C.

Trump formerly tried to recruit the two for his legal defense in the Russia probe, but a conflict of interest prohibited them from joining the president's legal team at that time.

Along with Giuliani, who previously denied that any other attorneys were involved, diGenova and Toensing worked with the president "off the books," so as not to involve the White House, in trying to solicit damaging information about Joe Biden from Ukrainian officials.

Trump's quest for information that could harm Biden's 2020 campaign prospects is the subject of the whistleblower complaint that prompted the impeachment inquiry into Trump's behavior.

Read more: https://www.insider.com/trump-lawyers-biden-digenova-toensing-ukraine-2019-9

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Collusion team: GOP political operatives Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing, who run a law firm together and are reportedly working for Trump "off the books" on soliciting information about Joe Biden from Ukrainian officials.

[madaboutharry]

1. They are two of the biggest nut jobs in Washington.

Toensing would become completely deranged on television whenever she heard the words “Hillary Clinton.”

[sandensea]

2. That's what she's paid to do.

Presstitutes.

[Jim__]

3. Scumbags! I remember them from when Bill Clinton was president.

Geraldo Rivera had a show on MSNBC and they were always on lying, lying, and lying.

[sandensea]

5. Having a small army of presstitutes is a centerpiece of the Gingrich-era GOPee

And they've exported that strategy to far-right parties overseas.

Argentina's Macri, Brazil's Bolsonazi and Hungary's Orbán, among others, won elections by filling cable news with gish-galloping loudmouth surrogates - and with help from a corrupt judiciary not unlike Ken Starr.

But chicanery only gets you so far, for so long.

All of these characters are have either been rejected for a second term, or are so unpopular they're already plotting either a state of siege or Iberian exile.

Cheeto definitely falls in this second category.

[True Blue American]

9. Geraldo wants to fight the WB.

He better hope it is not an Intelligence Officer. Those guys stay in pretty good shape.

[johnnyfins]

19. Yeah loved how he called the wb a snitch and

made some ridiculous tuff guy comment about wanting to smack him. Geraldo has needed a good ass whipping for years. Such a jackass.

[Archae]

27. Well some white supremacists got his nose out of joint that time...

[Doodley]

4. If there was any dirt on Biden, we would have heard about it, but we heard about Trump's dirt. They

must be the worst lawyers in America. Very sad!

[sandensea]

6. Sure - but it's all about keeping the faithful faithful

You gotta give'em something to scream at their lib'rul acquaintances.

"Whut about BAHden!?"

[pangaia]

7. "....worked with the president "off the books," so as not to involve the White House,..."

Is that a joke?

[Greybnk48]

8. Sleaze bags of the first degree.

They used to be on T.V. every night along with Ann Coulter during the destroy Bill Clinton era. I think they were always on MSNBC. Especially Geraldo's show.

[True Blue American]

13. No Degenova

And his wife have always been on Fox. Geraldo had been there a long time. He had a show during the OJ Simpson trial. I think that was on NBC. His claim to fame was a 2 Hour show opening Capones Vault. It was empty.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Al_Capone%27s_Vaults

[IcyPeas]

16. I remember them from the OJ trial too

they were all over the news shows at that time. So many of these talking heads became famous from the OJ trial.

[True Blue American]

23. Geraldo made it on OJ

And Capone’s vault. 2 wasted hours.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. Hey, if you were Trump, would you want "second-rate" sleazebags?

I'd get the "first-degree" versions.

Being on TV with Ann Coulter can only add lustre to their image, right?

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Seriously? is this legitimate?

[sandensea]

15. Yes - and as they were 'off the books' they can't claim attorney-client privilege

Cheeto's favorite privilege - as long as it's for him.

Here's Chris Wallace's rundown:

[Judi Lynn]

25. Wow, did not know the 3 of them can't conceal information otherwise privileged. Cool! n/t

[sandensea]

39. Let's see how they tap dance out of this one

If past GOP witnesses over the years are any indication, they'll either plead the Fifth, keep parroting 'I don't recall' - or refuse to appear outright.

They know this mafia don of a president will protect and/or pardon them if they do.

[bobalew]

11. Oh look! It's Boris & Natasha Badinov

And guess who fearless leader is?

[erronis]

12. Another post

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212522457#post12

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. I smell subpeonas and indictments

These are the same nut jobs that took over Roger Stone's defense.

[Pepsidog]

18. Apparently, Trump just hired them. Wonder why, attorney-client privilege.

[groundloop]

20. I'd bet that doesn't fly since they weren't technically working for him while 'off the books'

[cstanleytech]

24. Attorney client privilege won't work if it involves work for the US government

and it's relationship with another country.

[LiberalFighter]

21. There must be something on them that can send them to prison.

[dixiegrrrrl]

32. The $$$ they get....

We know trump NEVER uses any of his own money, he even went so far to have a massive screaming fit when told the 10 or so million from the Gov't HAD to spent on the Inauguration.

When banks gave him loans to build Atlantic City, he stiffed the contractors, pocketing their money.

I am betting he uses political donations for personal/legal expenses, just like he used his foundation for income.

It would be glorious if he stiffed his lawyers...call it karma.

[paleotn]

22. Why is it that people involved with IQ45's past business dealings

look like someone you'd expect to turn up in a shallow grave in upstate NY with a bullet wound to the back of the head? Mob lawyers I guess. Such nice people.

[Turbineguy]

26. Of course it's easy to represent an innocent person.

The challenge lies in getting the guilty off scot-free.

On the face of it, defending trump would be something that could damage your reputation, but given that there seems to be a nearly unlimited supply of crooked republicans, fuck the reputation and take the swag.

[Gothmog]

28. From Neal Katyal

Link to tweet

[onetexan]

31. yes!! get these RW sleazebag duo!!

[Cha]

38. Wouldn't that be

Just Desserts?

[ffr]

29. What a small world. I just saw Tucker Calrson's RW talking point with diGenova

Then we get the take-down @3:40

[orangecrush]

30. Like to see all three of them go to prison

[HacknWack]

33. OTB lawyers on donny's team

FWIW it is so great that so many FOCKS reporters are stepping off the donny train. This is one of the greatest changes that will give his followers at least a piece of real and factual data to their pathetic 'pseudo-news' sources.

[Historic NY]

34. Welcome to the Benghazi assholes....

[creeksneakers2]

35. diGenova and Toensing

are charter members of the vast right wing conspiracy.

[Takket]

36. a lawyer that works "off the books" shouldn't be a lawyer

[KY_EnviroGuy]

37. tRump's entire life is "off the books".

He gave up a lot of the freedoms of criminality when he became a government employee.

............