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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:29 PM Oct 2019

Pat Robertson: Trump Will Lose His 'Mandate of Heaven' if He Pulls Out of Syria

Source: DAILY BEAST



The ultra-conservative televangelist on Monday joined a growing chorus of Republican critics of Trump’s decision on Syria.

Justin Baragona Published 10.07.19 4:58PM ET

When you’ve lost Pat Robertson…

Reacting to President Donald Trump’s announcement that American forces will pull out of Syria and pave the way for Turkey to invade the country and attack Kurdish allies, the ultra-conservative televangelist on Monday joined the growing chorus of Republican critics of the president’s decision.


“I am absolutely appalled that the United States is going to betray those democratic forces in northern Syria,” he said during Monday’s broadcast of The 700 Club, first spotted by Right Wing Watch. “That we are possibly going to allow the Turkish to come in against the Kurds.”

Calling Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan a “thug” and “dictator,” Robertson said it was “nonsense” to call the Turkish leader an ally of America, claiming Erdogan is just “in for himself.”

Robertson, who has been a loyal Trump supporter, then took full aim at the president.

“The president, who allowed [Washington Post journalist Jamal] Khashoggi to be cut in pieces without any repercussions whatsoever, is now allowing the Christians and the Kurds to be massacred by the Turks,” he exclaimed. “The President of the United States is in danger of losing the mandate of heaven if he permits this to happen.”.......................................

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Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/pat-robertson-trump-will-lose-his-mandate-of-heaven-if-he-pulls-out-of-syria?via=twitter_page



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Pat Robertson: Trump Will Lose His 'Mandate of Heaven' if He Pulls Out of Syria (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2019 OP
Hell has frozen over Srkdqltr Oct 2019 #1
+1 H2O Man Oct 2019 #4
Don't start looking to sell any ice skates because I am sure Pat will be back to kissing Trumps ass cstanleytech Oct 2019 #7
weird me_not_you Oct 2019 #10
Will this be the right's #Trexit strategy? MiniprotesterTodd Oct 2019 #16
wow me_not_you Oct 2019 #17
Coincidentally, that's where Trump's mandate is from. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #25
... BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #32
Shit that made me laugh! Maraya1969 Oct 2019 #42
t-rump never had it. Iliyah Oct 2019 #2
Just like the Shang Dynasty htuttle Oct 2019 #3
OMG, he's losing Jeeeesus! mountain grammy Oct 2019 #5
Even Robertson knows that Humperdoo is NOT Jesus Backseat Driver Oct 2019 #34
No joy that it is taking this latest and perhaps most gross betrayal to get some RW push back. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #6
Welcome to life under Sino-Russian dominance, Pattie. roamer65 Oct 2019 #8
It's pedal to the metal as Trumpsky faces impeachment. Harker Oct 2019 #9
+1 UpInArms Oct 2019 #29
He could cut straight to the bunker scene Harker Oct 2019 #35
Put A Fork In Him Me. Oct 2019 #11
il douche still has Graham, Falwell and Jeffries (or whatever that clown's name is) rpannier Oct 2019 #13
Robertson is now peddling in Imperial Chinese concepts rpannier Oct 2019 #12
Suspect Robertson meant it in the biblical concept. Guess he either Enoki33 Oct 2019 #14
Robertson is not bailing on Trump by any means, not yet, but he is creating an escape hatch RockRaven Oct 2019 #15
huh quakerboy Oct 2019 #18
"Mandate of Heaven''? I didn't know he had a mandate. YOHABLO Oct 2019 #19
Republicans always have a mandate, Democrats never have one JHB Oct 2019 #21
Trump has a mandate from Hell. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #26
"Mandate of Heaven" rsdsharp Oct 2019 #36
Spread the Word, Marion George! Hal Zerozerozeronine Oct 2019 #20
so they call money "mandate of heaven" now? LOL nt Javaman Oct 2019 #22
Trump pressbox69 Oct 2019 #23
Mandate of Heaven - Divine right of kings keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #24
We have two old fools... Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #27
They're all setting up to unload Trump Baked Potato Oct 2019 #28
I guess at some point it becomes redundant to preface these articles with *not the onion* jcgoldie Oct 2019 #30
Wondering if "Mandate of Heaven" is code for Evangelical support? Mike 03 Oct 2019 #31
It is telling that Robertson cites the Kashoggi murder without any sense of irony. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #33
Right? blugbox Oct 2019 #37
Oh Lord thou art not made up Blue Owl Oct 2019 #38
I do not speak RWNJ xxqqqzme Oct 2019 #39
I speak jive...I mean religious nut job.... Xolodno Oct 2019 #41
Thank you xxqqqzme Oct 2019 #45
The devil made him do it. marble falls Oct 2019 #40
"The mandate of Heaven" Politicub Oct 2019 #43
Oh, damn! That will get Trump's attention! Nitram Oct 2019 #44

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
7. Don't start looking to sell any ice skates because I am sure Pat will be back to kissing Trumps ass
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:36 PM
Oct 2019

soon enough.

 

me_not_you

(75 posts)
10. weird
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:09 PM
Oct 2019

weird seeing the likes of ole pat, Linds-Gram, McConnell,etc rush to call foul on this move by Mr. Trump. One wonders if they stop to think what else this fool is wrong on and they stay silent.... This just happens to be something the GOP's low-informed base happens to care about for some weird Jesus reason.

But it's only the chicken-hawk Neo-fascist Christians that care about it. The run-of-the-mill tea-party Neo-fascist rejoice in pulling out. So then one wonders what do ole pat, Linds-Gram, McConnell, etc stand to gain from shit being blown up and Americans getting killed in the mid-east.

"War is a Racket" Smedley Butler.

16. Will this be the right's #Trexit strategy?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:13 AM
Oct 2019

Too many fingers in the pie to make Ukraine the reason for the right to go against Trump and his #CORPservative GOP enablers. So the Turkey issue is better as the last straw in the #Trexit gambit. The goal is to piss off the least number of Trump voters when #HumptyTrumpty has his great fall.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
6. No joy that it is taking this latest and perhaps most gross betrayal to get some RW push back.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:36 PM
Oct 2019

But hoping against hope Trump pressured enough to reverse.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
12. Robertson is now peddling in Imperial Chinese concepts
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:12 PM
Oct 2019

Emperors who lost the Mandate from Heaven were deposed

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
14. Suspect Robertson meant it in the biblical concept. Guess he either
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:22 PM
Oct 2019

thinks, or wants wants his followers to believe he has a heavenly hotline. All part of his level of exploitation.

RockRaven

(14,962 posts)
15. Robertson is not bailing on Trump by any means, not yet, but he is creating an escape hatch
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:44 PM
Oct 2019

for himself. When Trump goes down, he will point to this statement and claim it was a prophecy, which proves his own authority as a mouthpiece of the almighty... and never mind all fawning things he said about Trump before, that was before Trump lost God's favor by this one action.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
18. huh
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:37 AM
Oct 2019

Maybe this is their way to try and jump ship?

They couldn't just walk away from his illegal actions, because they are all on board, and his base doesn't care about misusing the office or power of the presidency, or anything of the sort.

But this.. this is the sort of thing where they could make him look weak, convince the base he has lost his edge. Then they could walk away and hope to avoid going down with him when he fully blows out.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
26. Trump has a mandate from Hell.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:17 AM
Oct 2019

And mandates can't have dual citizenship, so there is no mandate from Heaven.

 
20. Spread the Word, Marion George!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:14 AM
Oct 2019

Yea verily, go forth and tell the other "Christians" that Savior Donald is a False Profiteer, and Jeeeezus is royally pissed!

keithbvadu2

(36,785 posts)
24. Mandate of Heaven - Divine right of kings
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:12 AM
Oct 2019

di·vine right of kings
noun
noun: divine right of kings

the doctrine that kings derive their authority from God, not from their subjects, from which it follows that rebellion is the worst of political crimes. It was claimed in Britain by the earlier Stuarts and is also associated with the absolutism of Louis XIV of France.

===========================

The Mandate of Heaven does not require a legitimate ruler to be of noble birth, depending instead on the just and able performance of the rulers and their heirs. Dynasties such as the Han and Ming dynasties were founded by men of common origins. The concept is in some ways similar to the European concept of the divine right of kings; however, unlike the European concept, it does not in theory confer an unconditional right to rule, despite this being exactly the case in practice. The Mandate would in theory be a preoccupation in a ruler's lifetime, when he would hold onto the Mandate and live according to Heavens. Intrinsic to the concept of the Mandate of Heaven was the right of rebellion against an unjust ruler. Chinese historians interpreted a successful revolt as evidence that Heaven had withdrawn its mandate from the ruler. Throughout Chinese history, times of poverty and natural disasters were often taken as signs that heaven considered the incumbent ruler unjust and thus in need of replacement. The Mandate of Heaven was often invoked by philosophers and scholars in China as a way to curtail the abuse of power by the ruler.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
27. We have two old fools...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:20 AM
Oct 2019

One thinks he knows the will of God

the other one thinks he is a god king and is President.


that is how deep of sh*t we are in.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
28. They're all setting up to unload Trump
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:22 AM
Oct 2019

Now, all that’s left is the Money Boys to turn on him.

When the financial sector turns, it’s all over.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
30. I guess at some point it becomes redundant to preface these articles with *not the onion*
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:34 AM
Oct 2019

“The president, who allowed [Washington Post journalist Jamal] Khashoggi to be cut in pieces without any repercussions whatsoever, is now allowing the Christians and the Kurds to be massacred by the Turks,” he exclaimed. “The President of the United States is in danger of losing the mandate of heaven if he permits this to happen.”

Insane.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
31. Wondering if "Mandate of Heaven" is code for Evangelical support?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:35 AM
Oct 2019

Not that I could give a crap what Pat Robertson says, a lot of Trumpsters do.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
33. It is telling that Robertson cites the Kashoggi murder without any sense of irony.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:06 AM
Oct 2019

I guess Robertson's God is okay with murdering and dismembering one person but not okay with genocide?

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
39. I do not speak RWNJ
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:44 AM
Oct 2019

evangelical so does "losing the mandate of heaven" mean king con is going to hell? If so, I'm all for it.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
41. I speak jive...I mean religious nut job....
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:34 PM
Oct 2019

No, it doesn't mean he's going to hell. It means he's fallen out of favor with God and will not protect him anymore. If your inclined, read the Bible story about Saul who was anointed King, but fell out of favor. During a battle, rather than be taken by his enemies or fight to the death, he fell on his sword.

But I also think this is "code", Robertson is considered the evangelical grifter in chief (he took the 700 club away from Swaggart who built it from nothing, and had some of the other tele-evangelist pull a Romney/Bain Capital maneuver on the rest of his empire). I think he's telling the rest of his capo's its time to start abandoning Trump.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
45. Thank you
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:08 AM
Oct 2019

I was raised in the Episcopal Church. They're not heavily into bible, or at least they weren't 35 years ago.

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