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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:30 PM Sep 2012

John Boehner: GOP Won't Agree To Raise Taxes On Wealthy, Even If Obama Wins Reelection

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- Elections often come with a mandate -- or at least some sort of consequences for the defeated party, which not only has its candidates rejected by the public, but its ideas as well. Nevertheless, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is vowing that even if President Obama is reelected, Republicans will not budge on their refusal to raise taxes on wealthy Americans.

At a press conference Friday morning, a reporter asked Boehner whether Republicans were "eventually going to have to raise taxes in some way" if the president wins in November.

"No," replied Boehner. "Raising taxes, according to Ernst and Young, would threaten our economy with a loss of 700,000 jobs. Now why would I ever be for something like that? I'm not."

Boehner's stand-firm stance is not shared by all of his caucus. According to the Washington Post, "senior Republicans in the House and the Senate" admit that if the president is reelected, he will have leverage to push for allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on income above $250,000.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/john-boehner-taxes-wealth-obama-reelection_n_1903715.html



Let all the tax cuts expire and then draft legislation that only cuts taxes for households making $250,000 and under.
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John Boehner: GOP Won't Agree To Raise Taxes On Wealthy, Even If Obama Wins Reelection (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 OP
aw c'mon, john! you guys have pissed off everybody else, why not go for a clean sweep? unblock Sep 2012 #1
I'm far from wealthy, but I'll gladly pay more taxes so that we can pay down our debt. mzmolly Sep 2012 #2
+1 rsweets Sep 2012 #24
Agreed. daleanime Sep 2012 #27
I won't. jeff47 Sep 2012 #38
That too. mzmolly Sep 2012 #39
Yeah I am with you. airplaneman Sep 2012 #40
I'm with you. n/t reflection Sep 2012 #52
Enjoy your speakership while you have it, bozo wryter2000 Sep 2012 #3
Boehner you are such a dumb*** skeewee08 Sep 2012 #4
they can stand firm on this and watch 99% of congress go Democratic Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #5
I hate to rain on your parade but... tonybgood Sep 2012 #30
but but but my parade!!!!! Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #43
Redistricting daybranch Sep 2012 #48
I've heard that Boehner is running unopposed. Brigid Sep 2012 #59
Yes. tonybgood Oct 2012 #60
Thanks for reminding everyone why the GOP must lose control of BOTH houses, beac Sep 2012 #6
+1 Liberalynn Sep 2012 #37
There it is, bold as brass mikki35 Sep 2012 #7
Stop picking on the Boner! 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #8
the weeping boner has spurted ......... ah spoken Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #12
GOP will be a minority party Panasonic Sep 2012 #9
Hope so! GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #50
That's what we all said a year ago..... robinlynne Sep 2012 #10
The republicans have already voted for a tax increase Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #11
Tax cuts have been in place for a DECADE!! Where the F*** are the jobs, Bonehead?! Roland99 Sep 2012 #13
FU Tan Man... SoapBox Sep 2012 #14
What do we do to traitors these days? nt flamingdem Sep 2012 #15
Er....... MyOwnPeace Sep 2012 #51
true dat flamingdem Sep 2012 #53
Impotence and Incompetence Blue Owl Sep 2012 #16
The DNC needs to blast the airwaves with this! randome Sep 2012 #17
So then off the cliff we go bluestateguy Sep 2012 #18
Arrest them all for treason. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #19
They should have been arrested three years ago. oldbanjo Sep 2012 #29
Can you imagine... donqpublic Sep 2012 #20
LETS GIVE PRESIDENT OBAMA A CONGRESS HE CAN WORK WITH! elleng Sep 2012 #21
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #46
Get out the vote el scorcho Sep 2012 #22
In 2 years you will be out of a job John. But you don't have to worry about being in the 47% crowd. appleannie1 Sep 2012 #23
Sounds like Boehner is using blackmail... midnight Sep 2012 #25
Is America sick of these cry babies rich bastards yet? liberal N proud Sep 2012 #26
John Boehner: GOP Won't Agree To Raise Taxes On Wealthy, Even If Obama Wins Reelection The CCC Sep 2012 #28
Interesting, they had the opposite in The Washington Post this morning MiniMe Sep 2012 #31
Let's Hope the Next Speaker's Name will be Nancy!!!! mckara Sep 2012 #32
Let all the tax cuts expire and then draft legislation that only cuts taxes for households making Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #33
Boehner reminds democrats why it's important to win the house abelenkpe Sep 2012 #34
I just hope Obama wont cave and agree to Boehner to keep the tax cuts for some lame compremise torotoro Sep 2012 #35
looks as if boner boy just threw in the towel. nt Javaman Sep 2012 #36
Well, I guess its time to vote the 47% GOP out of office magic59 Sep 2012 #41
Country to Boehner: Guess We Need Fewer Republicans In Congress Then Plaid Adder Sep 2012 #42
In lame duck session, losers will still be there to cause their mischief til new congress in Jan/ 13 julian09 Sep 2012 #44
more reason to vote these self absorbed ass wipes out samsingh Sep 2012 #45
Soon daybranch Sep 2012 #47
GOOD! Then you will continue to lose, for being so Transparently in the pockets of the wealthy fascisthunter Sep 2012 #49
That's the work republicans do - lovemydog Sep 2012 #54
Doesn't matter boner... and-justice-for-all Sep 2012 #55
Hmm, no one has pointed out Norquist yet? alp227 Sep 2012 #56
Soon to be ex speaker Boehner can cry me a river tavalon Sep 2012 #57
This will work for him phascismisphun Sep 2012 #58
Wrong. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #62
How have those Bush tax cuts helped the economy? NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2012 #61
Then we'll have to do it without you, asshole. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #63

mzmolly

(50,992 posts)
2. I'm far from wealthy, but I'll gladly pay more taxes so that we can pay down our debt.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
Sep 2012

So, let all the tax cuts expire, Boehner! You'll be among the party, America holds responsible.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
27. Agreed.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:43 PM
Sep 2012

If we spend it smarter, stopped the wars, cut the defense budget, invested in education and infrastructure, etc....

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
38. I won't.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:06 PM
Sep 2012

On the other hand, I'll gladly pay more taxes to pay for stimulus programs to drag the economy back to "normal", thus making our "debt problem" go away all on it's own.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
40. Yeah I am with you.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sep 2012

Let all the tax cuts expire!
Then increase the tax rate on those making more than $250K a year.
I am also far from wealthy.
I favor higher taxes in return for a secure social security, medicare, paying down the debt, and safety nets for those less fortunate than I.
Cut military spending too!
-Airplane

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
3. Enjoy your speakership while you have it, bozo
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
Sep 2012

100% is agreement. Let the tax cuts expire and then let these idiots vote against tax cuts for the lower income levels.

tonybgood

(218 posts)
30. I hate to rain on your parade but...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:50 PM
Sep 2012

With the congressional redistricting done after the 2010 census, it will be difficult if not impossible for that large a swing in Congress. I'll be happy if both houses of Congress return to Democratic control!!! BTW, I live in Boehner's district and he'll get re-elected here, unfortunately. It's embarrassing to drive around and see all the Boehner and Romney signs.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
43. but but but my parade!!!!!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

anyway, it just seemed that when it becomes clearer and clearer
that the republicans are no way no how going to ask the
gazillionaires to pay more -- eventually everyone else will be
quite poor, and start voting differently.

it's a nice parade, full of funny people and bright
colors, nobody in uniforms or marching boots, just people walking
backwards or frontwards, and happily if they like, or sad if
they prefer, or standing still in the middle; and everyone in
the parade is marching to a different drummer from the
person next to him (OR her)

but to everyone's astonishment there is
rhythm harmony and groove.
Cacophany is rare but if
it occurs, everyone cheers and carries on.
If there is rain, they open umbrellas and carry on.


daybranch

(1,309 posts)
48. Redistricting
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

Well just help us pass Issue 2 for the independent redistricting commission and we can rid ourselves of Boehner in 2014..

tonybgood

(218 posts)
60. Yes.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:44 PM
Oct 2012

Boehner is running against an independent but there is no Democrat running for his seat. DCCC will not put any money into this district to support an opponent. Why? Because the make-up of this district is so heavily Republican they don't feel the money would help.

beac

(9,992 posts)
6. Thanks for reminding everyone why the GOP must lose control of BOTH houses,
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:41 PM
Sep 2012

you orange nincompoop!



edited for fat finger typo

mikki35

(111 posts)
7. There it is, bold as brass
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:42 PM
Sep 2012

Its little statements like this that say it all. 'EVEN IF Obama is reelected, me and my fellow Republicans will NEVER stop our fight to make him look bad.' 700,000 jobs my ass. Somebody pulled that number out of thin air, or maybe they polled their disgustingly rich campaign contributors and asked them how many would be fired if the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire? My guess? They made it up out of thin air, then added a zero or two. The ONLY thing I'm surprised about is they haven't rounded it up into the millions. They can't make it any clearer than that, people. "We don't give a fiddler's fart about the American people when we have a FAR more important job to do - have you seen the color of the man in the White House?????????" THAT'S what it's all about. And they don't care who gets thrown under the bus in their zeal to obstruct anything proposed or approved by Obama.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
9. GOP will be a minority party
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:44 PM
Sep 2012

and trending down to a faded memory and wondered what the hell happened to the Party of Lincoln.

Also, House Congresspeople on the R side should have their wages revoked until they agree to finish pressing business before they go lie to the people some more.

I forsee a massive turnover (net +45 on the House Dems) - and House retaken, and Senate restrengthened. Reid agrees to nuke the filibuster for the time being, because Obama and the Dems have the real political capital to spend and they will indeed use it wisely over R's objections.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. The DNC needs to blast the airwaves with this!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

We need a majority in the House to stop the stalemate!

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
18. So then off the cliff we go
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

and a big cut for the Pentagon.

Those taxes are going up no matter what. It's only a question of on whom.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
19. Arrest them all for treason.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:55 PM
Sep 2012

They are deliberately harming the country.

I don't say this lightly, but this willful destruction of our country has to start somewhere.

donqpublic

(155 posts)
20. Can you imagine...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

The tears on his orange pillow. Crying himself to sleep after his night-time whiskey-sours (5 of them).

 

el scorcho

(58 posts)
22. Get out the vote
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:15 PM
Sep 2012

Problem: GOP is intent on bankrupting the country.

Solution: Get out the vote for Democratic candidates in congress.

Give Obama a majority in the house and senate.

Winning the white house alone is not enough.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
26. Is America sick of these cry babies rich bastards yet?
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:38 PM
Sep 2012

Talk about sucking off the government teat.

They do nothing for this nation but suck the rest of us dry. Who builds this nation?, the middle class and working poor. That's who. Who funds the building of this nation? The working public and the rich don't work, their money does it for them.

I for one am so fucking sick of the rich sucking everything out of business and the government while calling everyone else moochers.

The CCC

(463 posts)
28. John Boehner: GOP Won't Agree To Raise Taxes On Wealthy, Even If Obama Wins Reelection
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:43 PM
Sep 2012

This is exactly why we need to vote out any Republican from any public office or any position of trust for at least the next 100 years. Just to undo some of the incalculable damage they have done to this country.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
31. Interesting, they had the opposite in The Washington Post this morning
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

GOP retreat on taxes likely if Obama wins

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gop-retreat-on-taxes-likely-if-obama-wins/2012/09/20/49948828-0330-11e2-9b24-ff730c7f6312_story.html

By Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane, Published: September 20


Senior Republicans say they will be forced to retreat on taxes if President Obama wins a second term in November, clearing the biggest obstacle to a deal with Democrats to defuse a year-end budget bomb that threatens to rock the U.S. economy

Republicans have long resisted tax increases of any kind. But taxes are a major battleground in the campaign between Obama and Republican Mitt Romney, Capitol Hill veterans say, and the victor will be able to claim a mandate for his policies.

“This is a referendum on taxes,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), a senior member of the House Budget Committee. “If the president wins reelection, taxes are going up” for the nation’s wealthiest households, and “there’s not a lot we can do about that.”

With Election Day still more than six weeks away and the president holding a thin lead in national polls, Republicans say they are not conceding that an Obama victory is the likely outcome. But they are beginning to plan for that possibility.


More at the link

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
33. Let all the tax cuts expire and then draft legislation that only cuts taxes for households making
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

$250,000 and under.

Legislation already passed the Senate. The House Republicans are sitting on it, of course.

 

torotoro

(96 posts)
35. I just hope Obama wont cave and agree to Boehner to keep the tax cuts for some lame compremise
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:46 PM
Sep 2012

I am still upset over the grand bargaining that Obama is desparate to do but if he even cabves to Bohener on this and we keep the tax cuts for the rich in place then he is no better than them. Enough with these stupid tax cuts. Let them expire. Bohener can go suck a fat one.

 

magic59

(429 posts)
41. Well, I guess its time to vote the 47% GOP out of office
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:18 PM
Sep 2012

They are, as Romney put it, a bunch of freeloaders that refuse to work while taking government money.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
44. In lame duck session, losers will still be there to cause their mischief til new congress in Jan/ 13
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:29 PM
Sep 2012

they will have nothing to lose and Boehner knows it. He has no control over them, what could help is the defeat of Cantor.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
47. Soon
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:33 PM
Sep 2012

Boehner is currently prottected by GOP gerrymandering in the state of Ohio. We have succeeded in getting a constitutional amendment for an independent redistricting commission on the ballot. With this commission of 4 republicans, 4 democrats , and 4 independents whose goal is to make each district contain about the same number of democrats as republicans and therefore make them competitive, we will be able to get rid of the crazy teabaggers and Boehner himself.We must vote for the commission to make our representatives, republicans or democrat, accountable.
In any case you should expect to see about 4 to 6 republicans at least fail to win reelection to the House in 2104Please vote to approve Issue 2 if you want an accountable government.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
49. GOOD! Then you will continue to lose, for being so Transparently in the pockets of the wealthy
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 07:37 PM
Sep 2012

you fucking tools!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
54. That's the work republicans do -
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 12:12 AM
Sep 2012

protect the ultra rich.

Hopefully more republican voters will recognize this and start voting for democrats.

alp227

(32,022 posts)
56. Hmm, no one has pointed out Norquist yet?
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:19 AM
Sep 2012

Remember his quote, "I just want to shrink (government) down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

 

phascismisphun

(5 posts)
58. This will work for him
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:05 AM
Sep 2012

The Bush/Obama Tax Cut, yes Obama OWNS part of it now when he caved in to them a few years back and extened them, will expire and the GOP will turn around and blame the black guy for raising thier taxes. Now all the GOP has to do is obstruct for 2-4 years and they get a GOP sweep in 16.

In the unlikely event the GOP has a few problems with obstruction the Koch brothers and their ilk will be more then happy to buy a few more of the DINO's that currently have a (D) after thier name who can ALWAYS be counted on to protect the 1%.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
62. Wrong.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

Obama can let the Bush tax cuts expire. And the GOP can "blame Obama" ... who gives a shit. Obama can't run for a 3rd term.
Which means attacking him does NOTHING.

Here is what happens. Win or lose, Obama lets them ALL expire. Minutes later, the Dems introduce a bill that retro actively reinstates ONLY the cuts for those in the middle class.

And then the Dems DARE the GOP (and the few remaining blue dogs) to oppose that middle class TAX CUT.

Check mate.

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
61. How have those Bush tax cuts helped the economy?
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:53 PM
Oct 2012

I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but the one question no Republican can artfully answer is the one in my subject line. If these tax cuts were designed to fuel the economy and create jobs, what happened in Bush's final year and why didn't they prevent the economy's freefall and the lose of millions of jobs?

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