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True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:27 PM Dec 2019

Russian spy ship operating 'in unsafe manner' off Southeast coast, officials say

Source: Miami Herald

A Russian spy ship is “operating in an unsafe manner” off the Southeast coast between Florida and South Carolina, according to the United States Coast Guard.

A maritime safety information bulletin warns boaters that they should “use extreme caution when navigating in proximity” to RFN Viktor Leonov.

The bulletin came from the U.S. Coast Guard Sector Jacksonville, which is responsible for ports that include Charleston, South Carolina, and Savannah, Georgia, an area that has a number of military installations along the coast.


Read more: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article238458288.html

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Russian spy ship operating 'in unsafe manner' off Southeast coast, officials say (Original Post) True_Blue Dec 2019 OP
Headed to Mar-a-Lame-Go for Trump's annual employee performance review? flibbitygiblets Dec 2019 #1
What do they need spy ships for?: they have our WH filled with traitor spies. C Moon Dec 2019 #2
You beat me to it. GMTA. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #22
Clearly... Layzeebeaver Dec 2019 #3
Transatlantic cables? Cracklin Charlie Dec 2019 #4
Wouldn't they be more likely to use submarines for that? Sapient Donkey Dec 2019 #11
Yes. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2019 #12
Deploying the latest in Russian cable-cutting tech? Anon-C Dec 2019 #27
This is truly alarming. bluescribbler Dec 2019 #5
They're colluding with other vessels, not colliding. :D eggplant Dec 2019 #7
LoL dewsgirl Dec 2019 #26
As another Sailor, bluescribbler, Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2019 #13
They're in international waters already, so not much we can really do about it. Jedi Guy Dec 2019 #15
I'm sure that we are. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2019 #17
Eh, it's a spy ship, so its ability to cause havoc is at least somewhat limited. Jedi Guy Dec 2019 #19
Even during the cold war, the Russian Navy was far worse off then we thought. Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #25
Maybe rather than "spy ships" Scarsdale Dec 2019 #6
I'm attending a huge "Impeach Trump" rally around 5:30 tonight, maybe they'll be coming ashore..n/t monmouth4 Dec 2019 #8
Where's our wimpy rePutican pResident and his cowardly rePutican congress? ffr Dec 2019 #9
What would you have them do, exactly? The Russian ship is in international waters. N/T Jedi Guy Dec 2019 #16
Make those on that ship fear for their lives, that's what I'd have them do. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2019 #21
So you'd have them harass a ship in international waters. Jedi Guy Dec 2019 #23
Watching our subs leaving from St Mary's Ga Navy Base*** MRDAWG Dec 2019 #10
Is St. Mary's anywhere near Kings Bay, GA ? Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2019 #14
About 2-3 miles South of King's Bay discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2019 #20
They're just getting a closer look at their new place. n/t TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #18
Ohh no. 😔 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #28
The Russians are Coming! The Russians are Coming! MineralMan Dec 2019 #24

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
1. Headed to Mar-a-Lame-Go for Trump's annual employee performance review?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

Maybe if they start shooting at us people will wake the eff up?

Layzeebeaver

(1,518 posts)
3. Clearly...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:40 PM
Dec 2019

...it’s just part of their newly implemented two-factor authentication regarding the regular status reports from comrade trumpokov

Nothing to worry about.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
11. Wouldn't they be more likely to use submarines for that?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:04 PM
Dec 2019

Everyone knows they are there and are watching them. So even if they had some sneaky ways to get down without being visibly seen, they are still be watched very closely with all sorts of fancy sensors.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
12. Yes.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:41 PM
Dec 2019

And two years ago, both the Royal Navy and the Norwegian Navy reported Russian submarines is "close" proximity to undersea cables in that area of the North Atlantic. It did not get a lot of press coverage in the US, but was a huge story in the UK and Scandinavia.

bluescribbler

(2,098 posts)
5. This is truly alarming.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:47 PM
Dec 2019

I served in the US Navy during the Vietnam War. My rating was Radarman. As a Radarman, I had to learn the nautical "rules of the road". I learned the difference between a "privileged vessel", and a "burdened vessel". These are internationally recognized standards for operating when vessels are in close proximity to each other. The radarmen in the Combat Information Center, (CIC), were responsible for tracking any surface or air contacts which appeared on the radar screens, calculating the Closest Point of Approach, (CPA), determining which vessel was privileged and which was burdened, reporting all this to the bridge, along with a recommended action. At times, we had to communicate with the other vessel as to the course of action we would take, or expect them to take. I never encountered any issues with this, and we never collided with another vessel.
If the Russian ship is not observing these practices, they are putting innocent lives at risk.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
13. As another Sailor, bluescribbler,
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:43 PM
Dec 2019

I think they should be boarded by the USCG, examined thoroughly, then escorted back into international waters.

Jedi Guy

(3,160 posts)
15. They're in international waters already, so not much we can really do about it.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:56 PM
Dec 2019

I'd be surprised if the USN doesn't have a submarine shadowing them, and/or have Orions doing orbits. Just to let Ivan know we care, of course.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. I'm sure that we are.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 09:07 PM
Dec 2019

Plus the satellites.

Anytime they are within 200 miles of our coastline, I get nervous.

Jedi Guy

(3,160 posts)
19. Eh, it's a spy ship, so its ability to cause havoc is at least somewhat limited.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:06 PM
Dec 2019

That said, there's a pretty good chance they have an attack sub of their own lurking around, just in case. I recall reading not long ago that they had a sub of some variety operating in the Gulf of Mexico, so they definitely aren't shy about posting up in our neighborhood.

Fortunately their navy (and military in general) is nowhere near what it was during the Cold War.

Farmer-Rick

(9,945 posts)
25. Even during the cold war, the Russian Navy was far worse off then we thought.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:39 AM
Dec 2019

They even had trouble clothing, feeding and paying their sailors.

I'm sure shorty Putin doesn't share his stolen loot with their Navy. He would rather pay off traitors.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
6. Maybe rather than "spy ships"
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

they are dropping off the cash to the gop? Send us information, we send you cash?

ffr

(22,614 posts)
9. Where's our wimpy rePutican pResident and his cowardly rePutican congress?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:21 PM
Dec 2019

I thought Make America Great Again?

Jedi Guy

(3,160 posts)
23. So you'd have them harass a ship in international waters.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 08:57 AM
Dec 2019

And not just a little harassment, but to the point that they were afraid of being killed. You do realize that doing so invites China to do the same to us when we do freedom of navigation transits in the South China Sea, right? Or the Russians when we're in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, or Black Sea? Once you've done it, you can't complain when it's done to you.

That kind of brinkmanship can easily result in people getting hurt or killed. In the worst case scenario, it could start an actual conflict. I'm glad you're not calling the shots.

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