The Wheels Fall Off for Romney as Obama Leads with NASCAR Fans, 48%-41%
Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:15 PM - Edit history (2)
Source: Politics USA
According to a new Zogby Poll the wheels are close to coming off the Romney campaign. President Obama leads Mitt Romney among NASCAR fans, 48%-41%.
The Zogby poll http://www.jzanalytics.com/DATA/Crosstabs_Voters_2way_and_5way_horserace_092112 that President Obama has a seven point lead over Mitt Romney among likely voters, 48%-41%, and even larger nine point lead when all candidates are included, 49%-40%. The real shocker is that the poll found the president doing very well with some traditionally thought of Republican voting blocs.
Obama leads in almost every region of the country, and only trailed Romney by six points in the South, 41%-47%. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart on a weekly basis, Romneys lead is within the polls 3.4% margin of error, 45%-42%. Obama leads with voters who are or who have a family member in the military, 54%-39%. Most surprisingly, Obama only trails Romney by seven points with those who consider themselves born again Christians, 40%-47%. The president also leads with NASCAR fans, 48%-41%.
Romneys problems with NASCAR fans could go back to when he mocked them while attending the Daytona 500 this year. The New York Times reported Romneys Daytona experience in the most classic of ways, But the crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. I like those fancy raincoats you bought, he said. Really sprung for the big bucks. And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners.
Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/wheels-fall-romney-obama-leads-nascar-fans-48-41.html
UPDATE TO ADD:
Obama has a 14 point lead among independents (46% to 32%), 33 points among moderates (60% to 27%), 36 points among 18-29 year olds (65%-29%), 11 points among 30-49 year olds (48% to 37%), and is down among 50-64 year olds by only 2 points (45%-47%) and 3 points among voters over 65 (44%-47%). The President maintains his huge leads among Hispanics (68% to 26%) and African American voters (93%-0%).
Romneys lead is only 50% to 39% among white voters and 48% to 40% among evangelicals. Obama continues his lead among NASCAR fans (49% Obama to 42% Romney).
I wont say that things are spinning out of control for Romney, but I can say that things are not spinning in control. He is off message, losing ground, not connecting with his own base, being severely chastised (and even dismissed) by GOP pundits who should be his friends. There are ups and downs in presidential campaigns. For Romney, this is a real down.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2012/09/23/zogby-romney-loses-ground-now-down-by-8-points-wrong-track-voters-at-52/
magic59
(429 posts)WOW, that is totally rad to the max!
James48
(4,435 posts)after all- NASCAR cars always are turning to the left, are they not?
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But that is just me.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)All kinds of folks at NHRA events; gear heads, hippies (I was an addict to drags in the late 60s/early 70s), women, even some blacks.
I do miss the old Daytona 500s (64, 70, 84, etc.), esp. the early days when those huge-displacement engines revved up coming off the final turn toward the green flag. The crowd roared. And you couldn't hear them. I remember (1970) A. J. Foy's engine blowing up in front of us in the old Barney Oldfield Grandstand. Smoke squirted out both sides of the hood, conveniently before Pit Road. Everyone was laughing.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)There's a whole lot of Blacks, Latinos, and women in professional drag-racing. And Asians are really into the fwd compacts - some are getting over 1000 hp from little turbocharged and nitrous injected 4 cylinders motors.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)when in open competition, somebody from Dothan (?), Alabama entered a finely tuned straight-8 Oldsmobile (late 40s), and managed to defeat the competition, all the way up through sportsman modified, and had $9,000 in the pocket. Everyone was on their collective feet when he got the green light on a epoch-long handicap. But before the other car went green, and right in front of the main grandstand, there was a loud *CLUNK* and jagged metal opened up under the engine, and out dangled a connecting rod, followed by vast, gulping gouts of oil. He rolled to a stop to a standing ovation and huge laughter. Took several pounds of sawdust and many passes by cars to clean up that oil spill. I think he made quite a bit of dough that day!
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)For the best belly laugh of the day!
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Oddly enough, dirt track experience seems to help on road courses. Ask F1 champion Mario Andretti, who literally had to teach his Ferrari mechanics how to set up a car "American style"
uncle ray
(3,156 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)It was inevitable. It's funny that Mitt invited Clint Eastwood to the GOP convention, because Obama is the Clint Eastwood of the candidates. One of the few Dems besides Hillary and Bill that the public trusts to be strong on foreign policy. And not stuck up.
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)"Most surprisingly, Obama only trails Romney by seven points with those who consider themselves born again Christians, 40%-47%".
Me thinks the born agains are not to thrilled electing a Mormon.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Im a born again Christian who lives in a RED state & I hear a lot of older white women talking bad about Mormons...
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Some of them are saying to suck it up and vote for Romney because of abortion (I suspect they'd be a more vocal faction if Romney were a true believer and not a pandering flip flopper) but right now the people suggesting voting for neither appear to be shouting them down.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)President O is a true sports fan he likes ALL sports... I remember a couple of years ago when he invited some NASCARS drivers to the White House....
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)He took his whole crew to see the Michael Moore movie Fahrenheit 911 a few years ago.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)maybe we could SPONSOR one of the cars!
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Crew chiefs who have struck out on their own as car owners - they do 1 race sponsorships all the time.
I'd love to see a commercial where a limo pulls up. The driver's window rolls down, and a NASCAR driver (Tony or Junior, someone with a pirate's demeanor!) says "Where to, Mr. President?" "Forward, Tony, and step on it!" A quick frame of The Prez stepping in (maybe with Joe B. and./or "the ladies" A "Man in Black" speaks "Green! Green! Green!" into his collar, and the limo departs, tires smoking..
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I can just see him talking/insulting world leaders.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)I'm having trouble pronouncing SCMUCK.
SCHMUCK, on the other hand, is easy.
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Gosh, who knew?
But, seriously, if Obama is leading with NASCAR fans, the election is over.
Brother Buzz
(36,423 posts)You know the fan that pulled the rotor out of Romney's jet had a wicked cool sense of humor. Grounded.
Shitty Mitty
(138 posts)This should halt the NASCAR bashing for maybe, what, 30 minutes?
obxhead
(8,434 posts)We liberals are supposed to all love only the same things and hate the same things equally.
I really do get tired of the bashing that goes on around here of all things southern.
Welcome to DU btw
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)most
ktower
(7 posts)For the record, NASCAR was just a couple of years ago the fastest growing spectator sport for women. Yeah. It has become big allover. Not so much for this guy but hey, good on most of the NASCAR fans for turning left.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)As long as Most does'nt include the Talladega Infield derelicts, we're good!
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)This is the NASCAR fan's view of the Romney campaign...
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Is Romney polling with NASCAR owners?
VWolf
(3,944 posts)I believe all three of them are going Rmoney.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Ford, GM, to name a couple. Who saved the auto industry? Certainly not Rmoney.
If Detroit were to have gone bankrupt, that would have ruined NASCAR because most of the drivers prefer American cars.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The only thing Ford, Chevy, or Toyota on the cars is the nameplates. Well, the motors too. But they are specialty built racing motors, with no parts from production motors.
Bombero1956
(3,539 posts)They are designed and turned over to Nascar technical staff for approval.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The Yates and Roush shops worked closely with Ford in designing the new Ford motor, for example. The casting and forging of the parts is likely outsourced, but I don't know where. The actual assembly is done in the teams' engine shops. Most of the small teams buy engines from the big teams, ex: Tony Stewart's team buys their motors from Hendrick.
A friend of mine has a 421 cubic inch motor in his '55 Chevy drag car that is based on the Chevy NASCAR motor. No parts are interchangeable with any production motor, and he even had to have the exhaust headers custom made.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Wheels coming off, etc., this far from election day. Granted, I think reports like this are accurate, just seems strange for so many to be saying it out loud.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)News reporting is hard.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)When solid voting blocks begin deserting their traditional party affiliations less than two month prior to a national election, I do not think it's strange at all for it to be reported and analyzed.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)most important line in this article.
for those of you here who denigrate our troops because you believe the propaganda that the military is "conservative"
VWolf
(3,944 posts)I see many speaking out against the DOD/MIC, but there's overwhelming support here for our men and women in uniform.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"for those of you here who..."
Or those who buy into propaganda by espousing the opinion Progressives denigrate the troops, also?
cheriemedium59
(212 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)armed_and_liberal
(246 posts)But Mitt reminds southerners of every carpet bagging asshole that went south and exploited people and natural resources for profit . Once these assholes extract the last dime they walk away with all the money leaving broken people and a fucked up environmental mess
for someone else to clean up.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)That polling firm is even more unreliable than the House of Ras -- so much that 538.com doesn't include their results -- even if the slant is the opposite (for example, the day before the 2004 election, they predicted a comfortable win for Kerry; and, before you make the obvious objection, even though the EC may have been stolen that year in Ohio, the fact remains that Dubya won the popular vote).
Seriously, the Zogby result is entertaining, but I wouldn't bet the house, or even the doghouse, on it.
applegrove
(118,642 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)The little people just don't appreciate Mitt's humor -- "you really spent the big bucks on those raincoats"
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)the most important owner, Rick Hendrick, was pardoned from a prison sentence by Bill Clinton, and has donated to several Democrats before and since.
klook
(12,154 posts)... because that's what Romney is, basically.
rks306
(116 posts)What you mean Obama is winning NASCAR vote. Somebody must have told them suppleside economics does not work.
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)how much of that can you trust? I would love it if the Pres. won this demographic but I would be surprised that in the privacy of the voting booth, they don't vote redneck again!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)Go figure!
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)In NASCAR we not only follow our favorite driver but, often, our favorite brand of car. If our guy drops out of the race we look for another driver in the same make of car and cheer for him.
Romney would have been perfectly happy to let half the manufacturers in NASCAR go out of business. And the fans know this.