NASCAR/FBI Statement Re: Bubba Wallace Incident

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[SpazzTheCat]

1. Good

At least we can say there wasn't a horrible act of racism involved.

It is unfortunate that this story got elevated as fast as it did, and everyone jumped in to assume the worst.

[EarthFirst]

2. In other words they've known that this culture of racism has been rampant

Yet failed to respond...

[MosheFeingold]

11. Not exactly

It was just a loop tied on all the ropes on the garage doors to make it easy to pull the ropes.

It's on all the garage doors, apparently.

[EarthFirst]

14. Perhaps they should clarify that...

As I read it: “fashioned like a noose...” implies that a rope pull was tied into a noose.

Clarification that these rope pulls have loops in them would have been better clarified in their statement.

Perhaps I jumped judgement...

[PSPS]

3. I thought (hoped) it was something like this. Initial description sounded potentially innocent.

[onetexan]

25. Me too. Considering how highly charged the political/racial climate is some good did come out of

this. Bubba Wallace was able to convince NASCAR to remove confederate flags and work to diversify its sport, and also take a firm stance against bigotry & racism, knowing it would receive backlash from a large group of its fans. Its management had to grapple with the future of the sport and how it wanted to be perceived. I felt it was a very hard decision. I'm glad it stuck to its guns and collectively backed its only black driver on the issue knowing it was the right thing to do.

[Calista241]

4. so it was a pull rope attached to a garage door.

and not an actual noose.

[PSPS]

7. That's right. And it was described that way in the earliest reporting of its discovery.

The story did seem to get a lot of wind behind it, though, because of the well-justified atmosphere of suspicion today.

[sfstaxprep]

5. I Really Want To Believe This Is True

I'd still like further opinions though, given the source.

[PSPS]

9. It is true. It matches the initial description of what was discovered.

[onetexan]

26. i would like to see the video or in the least photos of the "rope" dated back in 2019

this would help assuage the public it wasn't a racially motivated incident.

[oldsoftie]

37. I've seen it but i'll just be damned if i can copy the image.

Its not even that large. Just enough to reach up and grab with your hand

[onetexan]

39. i finally was able to find it but i'm still not convinced. My problem with it is if this was a rope

to pull the garage door open (as most if not all garages have), and every garage had it, why all of a sudden would someone think it was strange and be compelled to then call the authorities? Where's the dang noose-shaped rope been all this time?

Also, the photos look a bit sketchy to me. My gut feeling is there's much more to this than what's been revealed.

[oldsoftie]

40. CBS showed a video this morning from last year. It shows it.

And since Wallace never even saw it himself, it never would have even been a problem had NASCAR officials not rushed to tell him it was there. They could've realized it was old & simply removed it without causing all the problems & wasting the FBIs money.

[onetexan]

42. On Morning Joe earlier i saw a clip of Bubba on CNN interview where he said he's skeptical of the

Noose being an existing thing, &that both the FBI & NASCAR do not think this was a non-incident. I get the feeling theres alot more to this story & we need to stay tuned. I also dont discount the notion the video could have been doctored.

[stillcool]

6. it wasn't in his locker?

Was it on the garage door after it was in the locker?

[MichMan]

10. There are no "lockers" in the NASCAR garages

The drivers personal belongings are kept inside the team haulers or the driver's own $$$ motorhomes.

[underpants]

8. Ruh-roh

Well it was nice show of support. It’s definitely a new NASCAR.

[jayfish]

12. Hmmm. No One Who Had That...

paddock before Wallace came forward to say. "Yeah, that's been there". I'm a little skeptical.

[MosheFeingold]

13. There are photos

Of the loop for several years.

[jayfish]

15. Alright, Not Saying It Impossible.

It just seems strange that drivers and crew weren't climbing over each other to get the "true" story out before the "fake" story became a thing.

[underpants]

17. I had the same thought

Hold it. It’s been here.

That’s all it would have taken. Unless the NASCAR PR machine overruled.

[MosheFeingold]

18. I actually know why

Without having any personal knowledge myself.

They were scared of blow back.

If someone came forward and said "Um, there's a loop on all our garage doors and have been for years. I think someone misconstrued this" -- the entire media and the NASCAR brass would have jumped them and called them racist.

[Igel]

31. And *that* is a scary and worrisome thing.

Can't say a simple and easy truth because ...


The rest is all "hey, it was false and deceptive, as it turns out, but it got us power and our goals, so Truth through falsehood is a winning and virtuous path!"

I sort of still like the truth and the freedom of being able to speak. Even truth. Even to power.


I wonder if any of that particular crew had been to Talladega since the garage door pulls were put in place.

[oldsoftie]

41. And thats exactly where we've come. We see it here.

I've had 2 posts hidden that answered poster's questions with actual FACTS. But a jury didnt like those facts.

[Devil Child]

44. Keep posting factual data oldsoftie

It is a nice counterweight and helps balance out the tone. I’d be honored to serve on your post jury!

[oldsoftie]

45. Thank you. Wish we could have a say at who's on them! Ha!

I'm so used to pointing out stuff on FB & i get the same reaction there; usually from trump fans but even others. Even if i dont like the truth, we HAVE to look for it.
Here's the latest one i had to bust; Biden's great grandfather fought for the Confederacy & owned slaves. There's even a picture & name. Give it time & I bet you'll see it pop up somewhere. The sadder thing is, you prove its not true & they keep the post up anyway!!

[Devil Child]

43. You nailed it MosheFeingold!

Fear of blowback and the current climate has them all “better just hand this off to the feds.”

[stillcool]

19. where are the photo's?

I'm sure that where and how it was found was photographed long before the feds arrived. Do you have a link?

[SpazzTheCat]

20. Its out on twitter

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[MosheFeingold]

22. Thanks!

My fat fingers couldn't copy and paste!

[stillcool]

23. man, how dumb are these guys?

[SpazzTheCat]

24. I'm frankly shocked

This made it as far as it did before someone came to their senses. I don't know why it took several days to come out with this "clarification".

[MosheFeingold]

29. I guarantee you

It's because people didn't want the heat for being the one who spoke up.

They all looked around, saw the loops on their garages, and said "I ain't saying nothing."

You know the internet mob would try to destroy them.

[stillcool]

34. who would possibly think..

a piece of rope hanging like that is a noose? No one. Whoever put this story out, needs to clean it up. Right now it's all bullshit.

[oldsoftie]

46. Well, it IS a "noose" but not for nefarious purposes.

[MosheFeingold]

47. Technically

It's a bowline knot, according to my much-more-nautical son.

Found on boat docks everywhere. And, apparently many garage doors.

[oldsoftie]

48. I KNEW i'd heard another name for it!! I remember my uncle tying them

Thank you for updating my brain!

[JudyM]

33. Thanks for posting that.

[MosheFeingold]

21. I'm on a phone

And having trouble copying the links.

But they are all over the place now, including a video tour of the paddocks from 2019 that shows the loops in basically every stall. (Not the point of the video, but you can see them.)

[onetexan]

27. you'd think they'd release those photos with the ruling?

i don't see any yet, so i'm a little skeptical.

[SpazzTheCat]

30. It amazes me

It's all over twitter, videos, pictures...not the right thing to be skeptical of at this point, makes it look like you want it to not be true.

[onetexan]

32. i dont do twitter and most social media. My question is if it was like this why wasn't it discovered

before? Did it just all of a sudden stay that way and fell down? You get why i'm being skeptical here.

[oldsoftie]

38. Today, would you want to be that guy?

[House of Roberts]

16. Keep in mind the prelude to this incident.

First Kyle Larson, a top tier driver with Ganassi Racing, lost his job due to uttering the n-word when he thought he was off mike and wasn't, then the banning of the KKKonfederate flag just a couple weeks ago, and then this noose situation. All through this, Bubba Wallace has been the focal point of the news coverage, and he has handled it well.

[Devil Child]

28. NASCAR wasting the FBI's time and resources

These garage door pull-ropes have been in the pits for years.

[ripcord]

35. I'm willing to bet it was someone wandering around with a pit pass that didn't really know anything

Someone saw Bubba in the garage and saw the loop hanging there and freaked out. As to why they involved the FBI it is probably because no one would have believed an internal NASCAR investigation.

[MichMan]

36. Currently the drivers are not allowed in the garage and there are no pit passes for fans

The only people in the garage with the current restrictions are race team members, and track staff (including security.) The drivers are transported on golf carts from their motorhome lot to pit road where the cars are staged before the race. Wallace, therefore did not ever see the so called "noose"

I'll take that bet, however I agree with you regarding the FBI